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Old 08-29-11 | 10:14 AM
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[IMG]file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/sjk054/My%20Documents/Downloads/photo%20(16).JPG[/IMG]file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/sjk054/My%20Documents/Downloads/photo%20(14).JPGfile:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/sjk054/My%20Documents/Downloads/photo%20(12).JPG Hello all I have acquired this bike and it looks like a cinelli,please Help?
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Old 08-29-11 | 10:33 AM
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Hi Brad. If you want to post photos, you will need to upload them somewhere on the internet (like picasa, flickr, mobile me, dropbox, etc) so that they are viewable here. The ones you have tried to post are located on your home computer.
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Old 08-29-11 | 11:02 AM
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Hi Brad. If you want to post photos, you will need to upload them somewhere on the internet (like picasa, flickr, mobile me, dropbox, etc) so that they are viewable here. The ones you have tried to post are located on your home computer.
actually the go advanced/add attachments sequence on this site works well.
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Old 08-29-11 | 11:12 AM
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actually the go advanced/add attachments sequence on this site works well.
Oh, for some reason I thought you had to be a paid member to use that. Well, if not, that would work just as well.
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Old 08-29-11 | 11:34 AM
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I have watched "The Matrix" enough times to be able to actually read the code, and that definitely looks like a Cinelli.
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Old 08-29-11 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Picchio Special
I have watched "The Matrix" enough times to be able to actually read the code, and that definitely looks like a Cinelli.
I don't know, looks like a chinese knockoff to me, but then I might be reading the encryption wrong.
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Old 08-29-11 | 11:54 AM
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I don't know, looks like a chinese knockoff to me, but then I might be reading the encryption wrong.
"sjk054/My%" is clearly the famous Cinelli seat cluster.
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Old 08-29-11 | 12:04 PM
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Old 08-29-11 | 12:39 PM
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Old 08-29-11 | 01:23 PM
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pictures!

hoping this works
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Old 08-29-11 | 01:25 PM
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So sorry I posted from work with bad results,I went with the go advanced option,thank you !!take a look
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Old 08-29-11 | 01:28 PM
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cinelli?

here is a couple more shots!!
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Old 08-29-11 | 01:33 PM
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That sure looks like a Cinelli - and a nice one.
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Old 08-29-11 | 01:45 PM
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Hard to tell from the photos - does it have a full-sloping fork crown.

The vertical dropouts strike me as a bit odd.
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Old 08-29-11 | 01:49 PM
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some important questions and fact,seat post 26.8? I have been dirested to raysport,but it has no cut out in the bottom bracket and raysport was 27.2 seat post.the bike has alot of good parts on it,some french things like Mavic 360 black stem and malliard competition/weinnman concave rims.patent 72 Campagnolo rear ,Huret Jubilee front,Zeus Seat pillar,Galli brakeset and a spectacular Saavedra crank with black drilled even each tooth,in perfect shape!! look like a royce titanium bottom bracket,spanish olympic 664 pedals,sloping fork crown all chrome?anty thoughts are appreciated and again sorry about the picture posting.regards Brad
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Old 08-29-11 | 01:50 PM
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yes to sloping fork crown and the 1060 drop outs are odd?
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Old 08-29-11 | 01:53 PM
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I don't know if it's a Cinelli, but it looks like a very nice bike to me. Do you have an overall picture?
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Old 08-29-11 | 01:54 PM
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some important questions and fact,seat post 26.8? I have been dirested to raysport,but it has no cut out in the bottom bracket and raysport was 27.2 seat post.the bike has alot of good parts on it,some french things like Mavic 360 black stem and malliard competition/weinnman concave rims.patent 72 Campagnolo rear ,Huret Jubilee front,Zeus Seat pillar,Galli brakeset and a spectacular Saavedra crank with black drilled even each tooth,in perfect shape!! look like a royce titanium bottom bracket,spanish olympic 664 pedals,sloping fork crown all chrome?anty thoughts are appreciated and again sorry about the picture posting.regards Brad
Agree that the Raysports I've seen have the "R" cutout in the BB shell - and that looks like a 70's Cinelli shell to me - though they did have the vertical rear drops. And if the post is 26.8, that's a pretty big clue. I think it's a Cinelli, though I haven't been able to track one down pics of one with vertical rear dropouts.
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yes to sloping fork crown and the 1060 drop outs are odd?
I haven't seen them on a 70's Cinelli. Doesn't mean Cinelli didn't build some.
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Old 08-29-11 | 02:03 PM
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full frontal ?

its a bad picture,but you get the idea.I will take better ones tonight.
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That bike spent last week on the Atlanta CL identified as a Windsor. The CL poster told me he acquired it in LA (lower Alabama) and that the Alabama owner claimed long ownership, with personal knowledge of it being a Windsor with original paint or decals removed to fully expose chrome years ago.

Cinelli or Windsor, I don't know; this part of the story may be germane to arriving to a conclusive ID.

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Old 08-29-11 | 02:09 PM
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Windsors of course did not have full-sloping crowns or 26.8 posts.

I believe they also lacked the little cutout in the side of the seatlug, and had different SN placement from the OP's bike.

A better pic of the fork crown might help - looks like the Cinelli version, but the pics are so poor ...

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I HAVE seen these dropouts on the Raysport clones, but never on a Cinelli....
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Old 08-29-11 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Picchio Special
Windsors of course did not have full-sloping crowns or 26.8 posts.

I believe they also lacked the little cutout in the side of the seatlug, and had different SN placement from the OP's bike.

A better pic of the fork crown might help - looks like the Cinelli version, but the pics are so poor ...
Actually, Windsor's did have 26.8, Cinelli should have 26.2 or 27.2. My Windsor Pro was all chrome under paint, and 26.8 post. But no sloping crown or vertical dropouts. This one is a mystery...
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Old 08-29-11 | 02:34 PM
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I HAVE seen these dropouts on the Raysport clones, but never on a Cinelli....
Agree - but there's the bottom bracket issue. Plus, on the Raysports I've seen with the vertical dropouts, the junctions are done differently - they're beveled and not quite as nicely executed.
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