devinfan

Thanks - early sixties - a few years earlier than the bike, which is a '67.

brockd15 

My opinion:

-Race Bikes - No braze-ons for fenders/racks (even though some do), steep angles, tight clearances, and lightweight tubing.

-Touring Bikes - Braze-ons for all sorts of things, heavier tubing for carrying loads, more relaxed geometry, and room for bigger tires.

-Sport Touring Bikes - Eyelets for fenders (but that's about it), tubing more similar to race bikes than touring bikes, geometry somewhere in between, and room for medium size tires (i.e. 28s). In other words, the bikes that make the most sense as daily riders (usually).

I think my '87 Prelude would be considered a sport tourer. It can fit 28's max, has eyelets for fenders, semi-lightweight tubing, and relaxed angles (72.5 parallel).

Roger M

Thanks Brockd15. About what I imagined.

RobbieTunes

I didn't consider the Lemans RS as a sport tourer, either, until I owned an '84, which was the smoothest all-day rider I had at the time, but no slouch when you stood on the pedals. I didn't consider any touring bikes until I owned a Miyata TwoTen, which I liked a lot, but considered a tourer.

The Lemans RS is a nice mix between being able to run hard for time, but also carry stuff, and not have to pay such close attention due to twitchy geometry. The owner of that black/yellow one uses it for easy-paced, all-day riding, never comes out of the saddle, and carries whatever he needs for the day trip. I rode it on a 3-day Bike VA trip and it was perfect for riding more uptempo than the loaded folks, but nothing like the aero crowd.

Like many of it's geometry, it's a whole different animal in 53/39 gear and 23c tires. If you'll note the setup on that one; all he has to do is roll the bars forward a bit, swap out the 48t big ring for a 52, and swap the chain for flat-path riding with a little more urgency. It's by far his most versatile bike. An Ironman, on the other hand, simply does not feel right when you try to slow it down or load it up. The Lemans and Lemans RS concede speed, and hauling capacity, but fit pretty well 'twixt the two.

I think there are a lot of bikes that fit that bill, just not a lot of people think about it.

I figure Sport Touring as all-day riding at a steady but not tiring pace, carrying the gear you need to be independent until the end of the ride, and clearance for tires meant to go places that may not be smooth. You have time to look around, gears to climb with patience and without pain.

brockd15 

Which sounds exactly like a rando bike (and I think "sport touring" bikes are great for that).

Ex Pres 

The '83 Trek 600 was advertised as a sport-tourer.
Mine, but it's not currently in this configuration. When I can get around to finishing, it will be 3*6, bar-ended, racked and fendered.


I do find it interesting that a bike Trek adv's as a sports-tourer only has one set of bottle braze-ons.

sailorbenjamin

Fillet brazed Schwinn Sports Tourer;

Fillet brazed Columbia Sports Tourist;

due ruote 

"An excellent club machine for the touring rider who prefers a high-quality specification with choice components" per the 1973 Raleigh catalog.

Picked up this DX-3000 recently. Thought it was a flip bike, then no one bought it, which I took to be a sign, at least for now. Anyway, now I have a bike with index shifting. Pretty hi-tech, right? It rides pretty nice.

RaleighSport

the 3x6 should be ez right, that looks like 2x5 so no real mods other then freewheel or cassete/cranks right?

WNG

Must be the sign of the times. My frame also came with only one set of bottle braze-ones.
BTW, great color scheme on your Trek.

Ex Pres 

Actually, the wheelset is changed out (clinchers now) - the crankset, F&R derailleurs and even the handlebar/stem migrated to my Raleigh Pro. Seems like the shifters are on another bike, too, but I can't remember which one. I think I kept the brakes, headset and seatpost. But to get back to the essence of your question, there are no real issues in making the changeover.

bikemanbob

Orrery

Nice fleet!

Wino Ryder

My '85 'Elite RS' taken at work last month. All original except for the bars and saddle and water bottle cages. Also switched out the freewheel to a 7-speed. Wheels are 700c Araya 'red labels' w/ Vittoria 'Rubino Pros'. 52 x 42 Sugino crank, Dia-Compe 'Gran Comp' brakes, Shimano 600 drivetrain. Frame is all 'Tange #2. Weighs about 20 lbs. Real sweet bike which is my daily rider while my other classic is going through a resto.

Hope you guys like it.


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Wino Ryder

Paint is the original Centurian 'Arctic Blue' with only a few scratches.

devinfan

That's beautiful.

Puget Pounder

It seems like people are confusing their touring bikes with sport-touring bikes...

RobbieTunes

Maybe they're just making sport of it....

Puget Pounder

I see what you did there.

gomango

Handles a little like a long wheelbase Primato.

My John Hollands.

Racks are possible, fenders are a major league pain.

A very nice long distance ride in any case!

jamesj

Here is my 412 Trek.

mikeybikes

My Miyata 610:


We haven't done anything too radical. Just a couple close by camping trips.

RFC

Very nice

RFC

BTW, according the the Bridgestone catalogs, the RB-T is an all around bike, AKA Sport Tour.

BRAZUCA

Here is my '83 Trek 600, also by the catalogue, it is a sport-touring model and exactly what I need for my 50 miles weekend rides.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/69312836@N02/6304074750/