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Another Grail bike build. 1986 Alan Carbonio! Finally!

Old 09-03-12, 04:55 AM
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Stunning bike, flamboyant and subdued at the same time, love watching it. That seatpost is a great touch, would even get the guys at ALAN excited, I guess.
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That is a beautiful, perfectly detailed bike. If it were a person, she'd be Emma Peel or Michelle Pfieffer's Catwoman. Sexy, dangerous, and just enough crazy (crazy hot).
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I always liked the Alan Carbonio, because of the likeness to a steel frame with lugs. With today's carbon frames, they tend to be over sized construction which make them look like they came out of a mold! Looking forward to seeing the results. Mike
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Beautiful.
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I was just today at my great LBS,
www.chebici.fi

and the disscussion of Alan Carbonio came up....
he grinned at me and told me to go up in the loft
"What do you see?!"

W.T.F.!!!
he had 5 yes five Alan Carbonio'sframesets hanging up there.

I do think he would consider selling a few of them off, different sizes also.

pm if you must have one,and tell me your framesize- I will ask politely
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That is one beautiful bike. Outstanding work. I love the Turbo on it! Too many nice details to pick which one's my favourite.
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I'm sort of surprised I missed this build, but it is so fine I only have one word to say: EPIC!
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You know, there are alot of guys here on the forum that can put a bike together, but there are only a few that can put them together so well that they could easily sit in a museum as an example of the very best that a bicycle builder had to offer. Your definitely one of the few, because you really have the knack of getting it just right. I'm sure the artisans at ALAN would be very proud to see one of their own looking so good again!

Good luck and ride her well!
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Thanks guys!
I do have to say that I could not do half of my builds without the BF C&V members being my best resource for materials and knowledge on how to put these classics back on the road with consideration for the best build mechanics and aesthetics that I can try (and afford) to do on them.....
Thank you again everyone!

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They both smoke...! Very well done. Being Italian, you know which one I'd pick.
How do you like the Mavic derailleurs/indexing? I have a set of those stashed away in waiting I've yet to use.

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Here's comparative pics with my Vitus Carbone 7:
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They both smoke...! Very well done. Being Italian, you know which one I'd pick.
How do you like the Mavic derailleurs/indexing? I have a set of those stashed away in waiting I've yet to use.
The Mavic 851 SSC non-indexed derailleurs will never approach the preciseness and shifting speed I felt with the Superbe Pro, Cyclone MkII and maybe even the SX610 Simplex I had on my bikes in the past. Slowish shifting is just inherent with the older straight parallelogram design of the derailleur, but at least it seems to shift much better than my Campy NR (beautiful, tough, reliable derailleur, but dang, it sure needs a lot of lever travel and trimming to get thing shifting in the back). This is so because the jockey wheel cage height is adjustable and you can adjust it to be very close to the rear cogs through the whole shifting range, especially with close ratio gearing.
I suspect that you might compare the Mavics at least to Simplex SLJ5500s, with their similar straight parallelogram design, in terms of how they shift. The plus that they give is their super lightweight, 100% servicablility (all parts are replaceable) and their cool modern drillium looks. Using Retro frictions on them seems to help them perform good too, as it does for many other derailleurs. Only problem that I had with them is that the chain will in some rare occasions, ride momentarily on the grooved edge of the cogs of the Maillard/Spidel, Regina seven speed FWs and Sedis/Sach narrow chains that I use with them. This is where the retrofrictions really shine as trimming the position of deraileur quickly to move over the chain is so much easier that with regular friction shifters. I'm actually open to use the later Mavic 840 series RD on my bikes in the future. That one has a slant parallelogram design and should shift much better than these 851s. The 840s also have an option for index shifting if you get the matching right hand shift lever....but dang!, I missed the opportunity to buy the 840s when they were still affordable.

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Originally Posted by Chombi
The Mavic 851 SSC non-indexed derailleurs will never approach the preciseness and shifting speed.
I'm actually open to use the later Mavic 840 series RD on my bikes in the future. That one has a slant parallelogram design and should shift much better than these 851s. The 840s also have an option for index shifting if you get the matching right hand shift lever....but dang!, I missed the opportunity to buy the 840s when they were still affordable.
I read your spec post wrong on the 1st pg. I don't have 851 Mavic derailleurs. Thinking you had Mavic 840's had me asking how well they indexed? I do have the 840's (short cage) that index. Built to last for sure...

Regardless, that RD shifting issue can always be resolved. Trimming a RD all the time wouldn't work here. I have Cyclone Derailleurs on one bike that shifts effortlessly...
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very nice... kinda makes me want to get one now...
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For anyone interested, there happen's to be a Miyata CarbonTech 3000 frame for sale on e-bay right now. Look's beautiful, very similar to the Nishiki/ALAN here, it's a popular size and its in pristine condition. I think it is priced nicely also because you don't see to many of these around. I'd jump on it myself, but the timing isn't right unfortunately. Better act fast though, as the auction only has 11 hours left as of this post!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Miya...#ht_500wt_1203
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I just purchased aNishiki complete Alan carbon kevlar bike in excellent condition.No tires but has excellent wheels. Shimano components for $10.00 came with a box of accessories and spare Campy derlrs and pedals.
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Originally Posted by Johnnykona
I just purchased aNishiki complete Alan carbon kevlar bike in excellent condition.No tires but has excellent wheels. Shimano components for $10.00 came with a box of accessories and spare Campy derlrs and pedals.
your KILLin' us johnny...just killin' us!
Go play the lottery now!
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Chombi zombie thread bump. Actually should make it a sticky because its melting hot.

Anyways, wondering if pestering you to repost all the lost photbucketschit pics would be too much?

Have one at the door tonight but with the lowly 105 / 600 stuff. Not that its bad but these special ALAN s need euro through and through.
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Hope they don't get held for ransom by the new owners of Flickr like PB did.....:
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Here's one more that went over the pic number post limit....
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Your ALAN will always be one of my all time favourites. I always take the time to admire it whenever you post a photo or two of it.
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Thank you very much Gary,
Building it up from a bare frameset was one of the most rewarding experiences I had in all the years I had been involved in cycling. Not sure if the planets will ever "line up" for me again, so well, like it did when I started the build on this one.
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Much appreciated for reposting, Chombi. Your build and the completed project is a top example.
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