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Old 06-09-12 | 08:47 AM
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Unstick a Cinelli 1R stem

Is there a tried-and-true way to unstick the handlebar clamp on a Cinelli 1R stem?


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Old 06-09-12 | 11:10 AM
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The 1R had an internal wedge built inside it if I'm not mistaken. PB Blaster and some time, maybe a bit-O-heat.

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Old 06-09-12 | 11:38 AM
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Yes, it's the wedge. I'm thinking that if I put a tool in there, I can push it backwards.
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Old 06-09-12 | 02:40 PM
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Loosen the bolt and tap up on it.
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Old 06-09-12 | 03:44 PM
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Wedge possibly cracked (and toast) and that's jamming things? Here's a couple photos of the parts: in the first, Stem, with screw and steel wedge installed and also lying on the side, and the "white metal" wedge/clamp that fits against the bar. That one's cracked.



In the second, three bar wedges, two of them cracked -- shows that they don't always fail in the same place.

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Old 06-09-12 | 03:55 PM
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Lube and tap. Do not put heat on it, that's way off base.

This happens a lot. A dead blow hammer at the faceplate usually works, easy does it.
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Old 06-10-12 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by teetime

This happens a lot.
Because the 1R is a poorly designed stem.
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Old 06-10-12 | 04:43 PM
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Because the 1R is a poorly designed stem.
I think it's more the materials available at the time.
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Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd
Because the 1R is a poorly designed stem.
and the XA.....
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I wonder if they tried making the 1R's white metal wedge out of steel.
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Old 06-10-12 | 06:22 PM
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Sooner or later I'm gonna make some billet 7075 1R wedges...sooner or later.

BTW...What's wrong with XAs???...I have those on a bunch of bikes, 26.4 and 26.0...zero issues.
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Old 06-10-12 | 06:36 PM
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Sooner or later I'm gonna make some billet 7075 1R wedges...sooner or later.

BTW...What's wrong with XAs???...I have those on a bunch of bikes, 26.4 and 26.0...zero issues.

They crack across the front...
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Most likely a small sample from people over tightening 26.0 bars in 26.4 stems, if I had to venture a guess.

Originally Posted by miamijim
They crack across the front...
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Originally Posted by buldogge
Sooner or later I'm gonna make some billet 7075 1R wedges...sooner or later.

BTW...What's wrong with XAs???...I have those on a bunch of bikes, 26.4 and 26.0...zero issues.
I'll take a couple of those 7075 wedges...sooner than later. I've busted a couple!

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Most likely a small sample from people over tightening 26.0 bars in 26.4 stems.
Guilty...& right in front as mentioned. On a pantographed Merckx XA stem too.
All the other XA's I have (4) are OK. One w/ a shim to hold ITM bars from slipping....
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Thanks for the responses.

Charles, that photo break down was super, super useful.

I unscrewed the bolt, gave it a light tap, and the bar was free.

I now have a pair of 64-40 Cinelli's in 26.4 for trade for a pair of 44's

EDIT: And it took me longer to write this post than to free the bars.
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