Weinmann 506 side pulls vs center pulls or anything else?
07-04-12 | 09:24 AM
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Weinmann 506 side pulls vs center pulls or anything else?
Bikers I have a question to pose the Illuminati of the biking world. I want to upgrade my Peugeot PF10's Weinmann 506 sidepull brakes. I have been able to get the date of the bike to around 1979-1980 due to the orange color scheme. All of the offerings (PX10-PB10) appear to have side pull brakes during those years. I have seen variations all over the web of other older bikes with MAFAC Racer or Competition brakes. Can anyone clarify this? It would seem to me an exercise in futility to get Modolo Equipe, Campagnolo Nuovo/Super Record, Spidel/MAFAC SL, or any other side pull brake if I get no change in performance.
I am not a racer or an avid biker, I just ride for the enjoyment and thrill, as well as getting in shape. I don't want to spend a fortune either so am I looking at structural changes that will go into center pull brakes or can I just get the front and rear hangers and mount away? I have to add that this bike is all French, with 700c wheels. Should I get more modern DP side pulls to further confuse the situation?
One other thing... Is it wrong to put Italian parts on it or should I be a purist and keep it all French/Swiss? MAFAC/Spidel or Weinman appear to be the only manufacturers I have found.
Who's gonna win the tour?
I am not a racer or an avid biker, I just ride for the enjoyment and thrill, as well as getting in shape. I don't want to spend a fortune either so am I looking at structural changes that will go into center pull brakes or can I just get the front and rear hangers and mount away? I have to add that this bike is all French, with 700c wheels. Should I get more modern DP side pulls to further confuse the situation?
One other thing... Is it wrong to put Italian parts on it or should I be a purist and keep it all French/Swiss? MAFAC/Spidel or Weinman appear to be the only manufacturers I have found.
Who's gonna win the tour?
07-04-12 | 10:41 AM
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For a reasonable cost there are various brake options that should improve braking most modern brakes will work better than the Weimans. The important thing to know is the brake reach needed. Also before you spend a lot of money some better cool stop brake pads new cables and adjustment can greatly improve your braking to make it acceptable.
07-04-12 | 11:04 AM
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Yes, it is very wrong to put Italian parts on a French bike.
07-04-12 | 11:09 AM
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The Weinmann 500 series sidepull brakes were pretty much "bread and butter" brakesets used by Peugeot on a lot of their mid level models in the early 80's. They are not the greatest brakes, (sometimes hard to keep centered and adjusted) but they are not that bad either and can provide adequate braking performace for most conditions. Lots of options to improve braking with higher model/better designed brakes. If you want the best Weinmann sidepulls of that time, Check out the Weinmann 400 series "Carreras". They were much better made/designed than the 500s and were used on Peugeot's highest model racing bikes in the 80's. Quite a bit more expensive though, if you can find a good set......
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07-04-12 | 11:24 AM
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The Weinmann 500 series sidepull brakes were pretty much "bread and butter" brakesets used by Peugeot on a lot of their mid level models in the early 80's. They are not the greatest brakes, (sometimes hard to keep centered and adjusted) but they are not that bad either and can provide adequate braking performace for most conditions. Lots of options to improve braking with higher model/better designed brakes. If you want the best Weinmann sidepulls of that time, Check out the Weinmann 400 series "Carreras". They were much better made/designed than the 500s and were used on Peugeot's highest model racing bikes in the 80's. Quite a bit more expensive though, if you can find a good set......
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07-04-12 | 12:05 PM
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+1 for Kool-Stop Salmon and new cables. With an aluminum rim I can get the rear tire to come off the ground. Once the rear tire is in the air, that's all the brake you can use.
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