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Old 07-11-12 | 08:26 PM
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What do you use to clamp sidepulls?

These brakes would be so much easier to work on if I could clamp them together while I pull the cable and tighten the anchor nut.

I have a couple of problems with my current way of doing it:

- I have to put cloth between the wheel and pads so that the pads don't rub. How else would I space them out?
- My clamp is a piece of **** from Harbor Freight. It slips all over and off the pads.
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Old 07-11-12 | 08:28 PM
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Maybe I don't do it the usual way, but I just use a cable puller while I squeeze the caliper with my hand, if needed. The cable puller can be set at the appropriate tension while you tighten the pinch bolt. And I just eyeball the rim to pad clearance.
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If you do not have a "third hand" tool use an old toe strap.
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Old 07-11-12 | 08:41 PM
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There are "3rd Hand" tools to hold the shoes tight against the rims, and "4th Hand" tools to tighten the cable. The 3rd Hand tools have a hole or loop fitting over the shoe anchor bolts, so they don't usually slip off. I usually just use my hands, works well once you get the hang of it, but I'll use a 3rd Hand if the caliper springs are really strong or with cantilevers.

No need to shim the shoes for adjustment, just pull the cable tight then ease off a tiny bit to let a little slack in before you tighten the anchor bolt. Trial/error will teach you how much slack is right.

If there is a cable tension adjusting barrel you can pull the cable tight after turning the adjusting barrel a few turns, then return the barrel to neutral to spread the shoes.
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Old 07-11-12 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Otis
If you do not have a "third hand" tool use an old toe strap.
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At home I use an Irwin Quick Clamp. It works well enough that I haven't bought a third hand tool.
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At home I use an Irwin Quick Clamp. It works well enough that I haven't bought a third hand tool.
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For proper spacing between rim and brake pad:

Fold a business card double and slip one on each side between pad and rim. Then use 3rd hand or toestrap.
Pull/tigthen cable.
Done!
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If there is a cable tension adjusting barrel you can pull the cable tight after turning the adjusting barrel a few turns, then return the barrel to neutral to spread the shoes.
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Originally Posted by uRabbit
These brakes would be so much easier to work on if I could clamp them together while I pull the cable and tighten the anchor nut.

I have a couple of problems with my current way of doing it:

- I have to put cloth between the wheel and pads so that the pads don't rub. How else would I space them out?
- My clamp is a piece of **** from Harbor Freight. It slips all over and off the pads.
1. Screw out the barrel adjuster so you can relieve tension later if necessary.
2. I may have the same POS HF bar clamp as you do, #46805. Got it on a whim while trying to find a 3rd hand tool. It was necessary to glue the pads in place, but other than that, it works OK.
3. I recently got a Park BT-2 cable stretcher. This tool is a Godsend. It makes it very easy to clamp a cable exactly where you want it. I use it in addition to the bar clamp.
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Old 07-12-12 | 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd
At home I use an Irwin Quick Clamp. It works well enough that I haven't bought a third hand tool.
That Irwin looks to be of much higher quality than the HF one I have. It looks to have longer arms which would make it easier to use. Which size works best as a 3rd hand?
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Old 07-12-12 | 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd
At home I use an Irwin Quick Clamp. It works well enough that I haven't bought a third hand tool.
Yep. Me three.

^ I use the one with an overall length of about , uh ....12 inches or so.
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Five- See the other current thread on this topic,
"How the Hell Do I Adjust These Old Sidepulls " ,
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Old 07-12-12 | 05:28 AM
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Old 07-12-12 | 05:38 AM
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Sometimes an Irwin clamp. Sometimes a fourth hand tool. Sometimes my bare hands.
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Combination of quick release and barrel adjuster. I can get the cable reasonably tight with the caliper in the open position. Close the quick release and adjust with barrel. Works every time for brakes with those features.
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Don't make me salivate!

Sidepull brakes? The easiest brakes in the world to adjust with two hands!
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I have a third hand as well, but a nice trick for pad clearance and being able to get the angle to the pads so the front contacts first is to wrap a paper clip around the pad 2/3 of the way back from the front, then squeeze and tighten works great for almost all brake pad installations.
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Old 07-12-12 | 07:24 AM
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Sometimes an Irwin clamp. Sometimes a fourth hand tool. Sometimes my bare hands.
You have three hands!!!??!?!?
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Old 07-12-12 | 07:53 AM
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You have three hands!!!??!?!?
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Old 07-12-12 | 07:55 AM
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I bought a Park Third Hand Tool about 30 years ago, have used it many many many many times since.
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I have tried Old School and New Third Hands, but I keep coming back to my universal sliding clamp, which works in any number of situations, from setting up brakes, to preparing shipping containers, to taping handlebars - opportunities for use are endless, sort of...





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I have 4-5 different versions of a third hand brake tool, but for the last year or so, I usually just use my hand. I leave the cable long, wrap the excess around my index finger so I can squeeze and pull at the asme time, and tighten the sinch bolt with theother hand. For centerpulls, I do the same.
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