How do you say ?........
10-07-12 | 11:24 AM
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How about Frejus?
I believe it is Fray-haas. Is that correct?
I believe it is Fray-haas. Is that correct?
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10-07-12 | 12:25 PM
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10-07-12 | 12:27 PM
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I've been wondering about this Giacomo, as I have one, and I've been pronouncing it Frey Yoo, but I'm probably wrong.
Would love to know. A French word and an Italian builder. Making it tough.
Would love to know. A French word and an Italian builder. Making it tough.
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10-07-12 | 12:44 PM
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Bless you! This pronunciation would be spelled "Paliaci" or so in Fiorentino-standard Italian. I take it from your username that you are a southerner? Obviously, there are no "right" answers--it's just the guy who's in charge when they make the rules who gets to be right.
The school-standard pronunciation would be kind of like Poh yee ah ghee (where ghee is like the butter with a hard g)
Ee tahl kor say Mee lahn oh
Gipiemme is easy for Americans, just say the names of the letters as you would in English: G P M A. In fact, isn't this brand a play on the founders initials, GPM? (in Italiano, these letters are pronounced Gee Pee Emmay)
The school-standard pronunciation would be kind of like Poh yee ah ghee (where ghee is like the butter with a hard g)
Ee tahl kor say Mee lahn oh
Gipiemme is easy for Americans, just say the names of the letters as you would in English: G P M A. In fact, isn't this brand a play on the founders initials, GPM? (in Italiano, these letters are pronounced Gee Pee Emmay)
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10-07-12 | 12:45 PM
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Frejus "free us"
Pinarello "pin"
Cinelli "chinelli" as if to imply we actually know Italian
Guerciotti "gerk"
Puegeot "pug"
Ciocc "that seeohsee bike" I'd say "chioke," but that just sounds worse than when I say chinelli.
Pogliaghi "that Italian poliahi bike"
3Rensho "rensho" (was there a 2Rensho and a 1Rensho?"
Battaglin "baddabing"
Bottechia "geshundheit"
Croce d'Aune "deltas" or "campy"
Around me, if you pronounce them correctly, it's likely I won't have any idea what you're talking about.
Pinarello "pin"
Cinelli "chinelli" as if to imply we actually know Italian
Guerciotti "gerk"
Puegeot "pug"
Ciocc "that seeohsee bike" I'd say "chioke," but that just sounds worse than when I say chinelli.
Pogliaghi "that Italian poliahi bike"
3Rensho "rensho" (was there a 2Rensho and a 1Rensho?"
Battaglin "baddabing"
Bottechia "geshundheit"
Croce d'Aune "deltas" or "campy"
Around me, if you pronounce them correctly, it's likely I won't have any idea what you're talking about.
10-07-12 | 02:38 PM
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What about an Italianate play on an Austrian name, O. Cap? Almost everyone says "kaw-poe," usually accenting the first syllable, and the musicians usually say, "/ˈkeɪ.poʊ or ˈkæ.poʊ/," but one of our Viennese members suggested the initial "c" in the founder's surname is pronounced more like "dsch," hence, "dschaw-poe."
Japanese scholars have told me that Americans pronounce Nishiki with far too much emphasis on the center syllable.
Japanese scholars have told me that Americans pronounce Nishiki with far too much emphasis on the center syllable.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
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Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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10-07-12 | 05:16 PM
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We should make one of these for bikes
https://youtu.be/_YrfL-XJNBE
https://youtu.be/_YrfL-XJNBE
10-07-12 | 05:48 PM
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This was on an old website as an mp3. Classic. Whenever I would link the mp3 in a BF thread, I would always play it back 3 or 4 times. (And I repeated it a lot tonight, too.) Here it is on youtube.
Now I want an Italian bike!
Bianchi, Bottechia, Campagnolo, Carrerra, Cinelli, Ciocc, Ciussi, Colnago, Daccordi, Dedacciai, De Rosa, Dolomite, Longorni, Marzocchi, Pinarello, Record, Selle Italia, Selle San Marco.
EDIT--thanks unworthy1, for Ciussi
Now I want an Italian bike!
Bianchi, Bottechia, Campagnolo, Carrerra, Cinelli, Ciocc, Ciussi, Colnago, Daccordi, Dedacciai, De Rosa, Dolomite, Longorni, Marzocchi, Pinarello, Record, Selle Italia, Selle San Marco.
EDIT--thanks unworthy1, for Ciussi
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10-07-12 | 06:36 PM
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10-07-12 | 07:16 PM
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10-07-12 | 07:30 PM
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What??? Only 2 wheels?
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Bertin? My French from decades ago suggests it should be bear-tahn (soft n), accent on 2nd syllable. But something tells me if I pronounced it that way a lot of people would wonder what I was talking about.
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10-07-12 | 08:44 PM
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Thank you, Rootboy! I always thought of it as fray-zhus, and your link shows at least 3 other people agree with me.
I wonder how often the word comes up in conversation between Tatars.
I wonder how often the word comes up in conversation between Tatars.
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10-07-12 | 11:50 PM
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10-08-12 | 08:17 AM
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Now I've got to look up exactly what a Tatar is.
10-08-12 | 08:20 AM
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Close to yours, which may be more proper.
10-08-12 | 09:21 AM
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po-YAHG-ee is how I would try to phoneticize it (if that's a word)...closer to 3 syllables, not 4, as the middle part gets "run together".
Japanese words usually are pronounced (correctly) with virtually NO stress to any syllables, so Nishiki has no accent on either the 1st, 2nd or 3rd...this is very difficult for English speakers to get the hang of, and probably even harder for Italian speakers!
3 (San) Rensho = commemorates 3 consecutive wins (victories) in one race-day for Yoshi Konno's bikes, there were probably lots on Ichi (1) Rensho and some Ni (2) Rensho, but they were not a big enough deal to name a bike for them...now let some Japanese speakers correct my spelling and grammar, I'm sure I got something wrong!
The "chucee" in Italian pronunciation clip above is for "Ciussi", the water bottle cage.
Japanese words usually are pronounced (correctly) with virtually NO stress to any syllables, so Nishiki has no accent on either the 1st, 2nd or 3rd...this is very difficult for English speakers to get the hang of, and probably even harder for Italian speakers!
3 (San) Rensho = commemorates 3 consecutive wins (victories) in one race-day for Yoshi Konno's bikes, there were probably lots on Ichi (1) Rensho and some Ni (2) Rensho, but they were not a big enough deal to name a bike for them...now let some Japanese speakers correct my spelling and grammar, I'm sure I got something wrong!
The "chucee" in Italian pronunciation clip above is for "Ciussi", the water bottle cage.
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10-08-12 | 10:07 AM
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Thanks rootboy. Now I can finally buy one!
Here's a tough one - Dedacciai
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10-09-12 | 03:39 AM
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Frejus "free us"
Pinarello "pin"
Cinelli "chinelli" as if to imply we actually know Italian
Guerciotti "gerk"
Puegeot "pug"
Ciocc "that seeohsee bike" I'd say "chioke," but that just sounds worse than when I say chinelli.
Pogliaghi "that Italian poliahi bike"
3Rensho "rensho" (was there a 2Rensho and a 1Rensho?"
Battaglin "baddabing"
Bottechia "geshundheit"
Croce d'Aune "deltas" or "campy"
Around me, if you pronounce them correctly, it's likely I won't have any idea what you're talking about.
Pinarello "pin"
Cinelli "chinelli" as if to imply we actually know Italian
Guerciotti "gerk"
Puegeot "pug"
Ciocc "that seeohsee bike" I'd say "chioke," but that just sounds worse than when I say chinelli.
Pogliaghi "that Italian poliahi bike"
3Rensho "rensho" (was there a 2Rensho and a 1Rensho?"
Battaglin "baddabing"
Bottechia "geshundheit"
Croce d'Aune "deltas" or "campy"
Around me, if you pronounce them correctly, it's likely I won't have any idea what you're talking about.
Nice, coffee on the keyboard. When will I learn.
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10-09-12 | 09:46 AM
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have to repeat this old joke:
"Q.:What do you call someone who speaks 3 languages?"
"A.: Trilingual"
"Q: What do you call someone who speaks 2 languages?"
"A.: Bilingual"
"Q.: How about someone who speaks only 1 language?"
"A.: American"
"Q.:What do you call someone who speaks 3 languages?"
"A.: Trilingual"
"Q: What do you call someone who speaks 2 languages?"
"A.: Bilingual"
"Q.: How about someone who speaks only 1 language?"
"A.: American"
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