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Old 10-24-12 | 06:56 AM
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All I can say is I'm thankful somebody posted a thread on a CLASSIC vintage bike. Was getting sleepy with all the Rance Hamstrung and MTB stuff.....
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Old 10-24-12 | 06:59 AM
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Old 10-24-12 | 07:28 AM
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I have to admit...I LOVE the MTB stuff; I often find it a lot more interesting than the everything looks alike road stuff.

My favorite stuff on here are the weird things...arguably it belongs in utility cycling, but I love looking at the different riffs and different set ups on versatile frames. The drop bar MTB thread(s) are probably my favorite on here.
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Aaron, I have a radical idea here. Don't do a thing to this bike for cosmetic reasons. Make changes for functionality, as needed. Use it as a commuter bike. If you haven't sunk much into it, you can lock it up and not worry. You can argue that it's valuable but that's only a potential, and you bring the potential out only if you invest in it. If you don't invest in it, then it's not valuable. Therefore, you can lock it up. And it's already set up as a very functional and fun commuter bike. You have enough fancy bikes to be able to abuse one of them. So whenever your Huffy doesn't suit the day's needs, you can use this. And vice versa.
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Old 10-24-12 | 08:23 AM
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Looks like it came with Super Record pedals ? Or are they Ofmega ?
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Old 10-24-12 | 08:36 AM
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Aaron, I have a radical idea here. Don't do a thing to this bike for cosmetic reasons. Make changes for functionality, as needed. Use it as a commuter bike. If you haven't sunk much into it, you can lock it up and not worry. You can argue that it's valuable but that's only a potential, and you bring the potential out only if you invest in it. If you don't invest in it, then it's not valuable. Therefore, you can lock it up. And it's already set up as a very functional and fun commuter bike. You have enough fancy bikes to be able to abuse one of them. So whenever your Huffy doesn't suit the day's needs, you can use this. And vice versa.
Tom - as always, great post...and I do plan on using this for some commuting and trails. I did pay a good bit for it...and I don't necessarily agree that it doesn't have financial value as it sits. Yes, it's ugly - but pre-boom Cinellis just don't come up often. From a value stand point, I suspect I'd pretty much break even if I sold it...+/- a few dollars. I also have the Raleigh Twenty as a short range beater now, and I really like it for that.

I did toss SPDs on it...and I plan on making the freewheel livable, so I am already going down your path The thing I really like about this bike is the wide tubular concept.

VonCarlos - Campagnolo pedals. I have a box with 5 or 6 sets of Campy pedals (I haven't counted recently) and they sit there for when/if I sell the bikes. I always use SPDs...total heathen.
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Well, given how many bikes you have, you could spiff this one up and take another bike and spiff that one down. Bang on the frame with a chain to wreck the paint job or something.
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Are you suggesting my stable runneth over?!?

I do need to cut back.
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Old 10-24-12 | 09:47 AM
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That's a pretty nice score!

This is one of those rare bikes that would actually be worth a professional paint job, though of course there's always a risk it will become too nice to ride (). Any chance there's chrome on the lugs, stay caps, &c?
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That's a pretty nice score!

This is one of those rare bikes that would actually be worth a professional paint job, though of course there's always a risk it will become too nice to ride (). Any chance there's chrome on the lugs, stay caps, &c?
I don't see any Rudi...it might have been removed when it was repainted. I might restore/repaint it some day...including chrome in strategic places...but, right now, I want to see how it rides and if it's a bike I want to keep. I do think it's easier to ride it and use it in banged up condition.

Honestly, I really like the Windsor decals idea
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Old 10-24-12 | 09:54 AM
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I forgot to respond to the Windsor decals idea. That is brilliant. And of course riding it is pretty important. So the plan it to get the Windsor decals on there for now, then ride it long enough to decide whether it's a keeper or not? I can find no fault with that.
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I forgot to respond to the Windsor decals idea. That is brilliant. And of course riding it is pretty important. So the plan it to get the Windsor decals on there for now, then ride it long enough to decide whether it's a keeper or not? I can find no fault with that.
I'd be the only person to buy a Rolls Royce and stick a VW Beetle hood on it!
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
I don't necessarily agree that it doesn't have financial value as it sits.

Yes, it's ugly -


The thing I really like about this bike is the wide tubular concept.

I always use SPDs...total heathen.
Sorry to butcher your quote like a politician, but:

1) I agree that it has a lot of financial value as it sits. A total refurb wouldn't raise the value a lot to me. I love the open history of an unrestored bike, and yours just screams, "I have had a great life!"

2) I don't think that it's ugly at all. On the contrary, I think it's great looking...

3) Wide tubulars? Where can I find some? Share your sources!

4) I have SPDs on a few of my bikes. Basically, the sunny day, 25-40 mile social ride bikes keep their quill pedals, and everything else gets SPDs. So, I'm a heathen as well....
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I used 27c Challenge Parigi Roubaixs...I had read mostly good reviews on them...I'll let folks know about my impressions shortly.
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Kinda ironic that Cinelli makes bar tape and yet yours is tape free.

My vote is keep it as is, warts and all. It has great character.
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Thanks Kobe! I really like it...it's under the radar...but it truly is a worthy grail bike.

I have something specific I want to do with tape, but I haven't had a chance to pick up a hockey tape base layer yet.
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Fantastic.
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Old 10-24-12 | 03:51 PM
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beautiful. leave it as is, plz. it has character. i would be more interested to look at this bike then a revamped perfect one.
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beautiful. leave it as is, plz. it has character. i would be more interested to look at this bike then a revamped perfect one.
It does have a charm as is...and the Windsor decals would really be funny. On the other hand, this really could be a show stopper, especially with those fenders. Maybe some day...in the mean time, I want to see how a Cinelli with wide tires rides

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Windsor-set-...item45ef6aa54c
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Nice. That is a beautiful bike. It's a nice feeling, owning a Cinelli.
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Nice bike. Look at you, fenders, wide tires, soon you'll be buying lots of Suntour gear and selling your Campy to pay for it! FWIW, I have an IRD 5 speed freewheel w/ a 32 large if you need it. It is brand new.
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BTW, the classic Cinelli color is not salmon, it's rose. Not sure what they call it, but it's an understated pink. Very tasteful.
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Fender - SOLD, though it likely won't work w this derailleur.

I have smart, practical bikes with fenders and wider tires! The koga and triplet!

Tom - that's the pink I mean...thought it was called salmon. When I think cinelli, I think silver.
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Fender - SOLD, though it likely won't work w this derailleur.

I have smart, practical bikes with fenders and wider tires! The koga and triplet!

Tom - that's the pink I mean...thought it was called salmon. When I think cinelli, I think silver.
I'd spring for a Chris Kvale refinish eventually.

Silver for sure.

He was going to do a Masi Gran Criterium for me a few years ago before I was sidetracked.

In the meantime though, I would just make sure any maintenance issues on the Cinelli are addressed, add some decent brake pads. tires and ride that nice bicycle.
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Silver is nice, but it's sort of like red De Rosas. The pink (rose, salmon...whatever) is a little more subtle. Kvale's bikes look great...I'd probably go Bilenky because he's local.
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