Anyone else running a neo-luddite setup?
04-30-13 | 04:41 PM
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04-30-13 | 05:18 PM
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Single bottle = Luddite??!...hopelessly out of fashion??!..
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04-30-13 | 05:37 PM
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What??? Only 2 wheels?
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Bikes: 72 Peugeot UO-8, 82 Peugeot TH8, 87 Bianchi Brava, 76? Masi Grand Criterium, 74 Motobecane Champion Team, 86 & 77 Gazelle champion mondial, 81? Grandis, 82? Tommasini, 83 Peugeot PF10
My '72 UO8 (which I rode today) has a single bottle and a Zefal pump, both installed decades ago. Our Peugeot tandem has no bottle cage and a Zefal Solibloc pump. My Masi and Raleigh have a single bottle but newer frame pumps because they work so well are are available without blowing a fortune on ebay. The Bianchi has two cages because that's the newfangled arrangement the factory chose. The Bertin has a single cage and shares the pump usually worn by the Raleigh.
So, no, there is no neo-Luddism here. Just plain old-fashioned Luddism. The way it's s'posed to be.
So, no, there is no neo-Luddism here. Just plain old-fashioned Luddism. The way it's s'posed to be.
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04-30-13 | 09:02 PM
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A few modern bicycle companies are trying to sell us on our Luddite tendencies.
I was at the BianchiUSA site last night and thought I was in a time warp (although the dropout threw me... and of course support for the extra cage)
I was at the BianchiUSA site last night and thought I was in a time warp (although the dropout threw me... and of course support for the extra cage)
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04-30-13 | 09:53 PM
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Mine has NO braze-on w/b or d/t shifter mounts, and I ditched the OEM frame pump for a Zefal HP - waaaay back in '77
And PROUD of it!
Now, if you're asking if I have a newer frame without the modern 'necessities', I'd have to answer yes, and no.
My newer road frames do not have factory bottle mounts either (but they do have DT shifters - which I despise...)
However, my '90 MTB has a bottle mount - that I've never used!
...and this is a bad thing because....?
And PROUD of it!
Now, if you're asking if I have a newer frame without the modern 'necessities', I'd have to answer yes, and no.
My newer road frames do not have factory bottle mounts either (but they do have DT shifters - which I despise...)
However, my '90 MTB has a bottle mount - that I've never used!
...and this is a bad thing because....?
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'84 Univega Gran Tourismo
'84 Univega Viva Sport
'86 Miyata 710
'90 Schwinn Woodlands
Unknown brand MTB of questionable lineage aka 'Mutt Trail Bike'
Plus or minus a few others from time-to-time
'75 Fuji S-10S bought new, 52k+ miles and still going!
'84 Univega Gran Tourismo
'84 Univega Viva Sport
'86 Miyata 710
'90 Schwinn Woodlands
Unknown brand MTB of questionable lineage aka 'Mutt Trail Bike'
Plus or minus a few others from time-to-time
04-30-13 | 10:12 PM
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The only braze-ons on my Frejus, are a couple rear brake cable guides on the top tube. Even the derailleur cable guides are bolted on, above the BB shell. I just use a backpack, like sailorbenjamin. But I might grab one of those fancy handlebar bottle cages, if I ever found one.
04-30-13 | 11:17 PM
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Anyone else who has created a hopelessly out-of-fashion set up with modern parts?
Where are the cotter pins on your cranks, young man? Are the crank arms themselves held on with phlogiston?
What manner of strange, ungodly contraption have you put before us?
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● 1971 Grandis SL ● 1972 Lambert Grand Prix frankenbike ● 1972 Raleigh Super Course fixie ● 1973 Nishiki Semi-Pro ● 1979 Motobecane Grand Jubile ●1980 Apollo "Legnano" ● 1984 Peugeot Vagabond ● 1985 Shogun Prairie Breaker ● 1986 Merckx Super Corsa ● 1987 Schwinn Tempo ● 1988 Schwinn Voyageur ● 1989 Bottechia Team ADR replica ● 1990 Cannondale ST600 ● 1993 Technium RT600 ● 1996 Kona Lava Dome ●
05-01-13 | 07:26 AM
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Pretty much all my bikes have some luddite aspect to them, if that's how you want to describe it. Even my Boulder uses down tube shifters and sports a frame pump. I don't see this as a throw back in any way - just stuff that works. (Anyone else besides me ever give a flat assist to someone whose CO2 cartridge didn't work?)
05-01-13 | 06:17 PM
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What??? Only 2 wheels?
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Bikes: 72 Peugeot UO-8, 82 Peugeot TH8, 87 Bianchi Brava, 76? Masi Grand Criterium, 74 Motobecane Champion Team, 86 & 77 Gazelle champion mondial, 81? Grandis, 82? Tommasini, 83 Peugeot PF10
Today's commute. A real Luddite bike. A real workhorse. An old friend.
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05-02-13 | 04:41 AM
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05-02-13 | 04:57 AM
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Italuminium, While nobody is smashing modern bicycles with baseball bats, this is a bicycle forum for luddites. 
I've backwards built a couple of bikes with DT shifters, one was a return to and the other had integrated shifters from the factory. That's about as far as I want to luddite-up. I'm still on the fence with the SR500 build.
Brad
I've backwards built a couple of bikes with DT shifters, one was a return to and the other had integrated shifters from the factory. That's about as far as I want to luddite-up. I'm still on the fence with the SR500 build.
Brad
05-02-13 | 05:01 AM
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05-02-13 | 05:27 AM
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jim muller, what is original on that old friend? The brakes and levers. What else? Nice brakes!
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05-02-13 | 07:08 AM
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What??? Only 2 wheels?
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From: Boston-ish, MA
Bikes: 72 Peugeot UO-8, 82 Peugeot TH8, 87 Bianchi Brava, 76? Masi Grand Criterium, 74 Motobecane Champion Team, 86 & 77 Gazelle champion mondial, 81? Grandis, 82? Tommasini, 83 Peugeot PF10
Thanks. Original: Brakes, levers, pedals, headset, stem. The shift levers replaced the original stem shifters back around '73, I think, so they are almost original. Same with the toe clips and straps, and the bottle generator. The Simplex seatpost and Blackburn rack were added within a year or two of '80, I think.
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05-02-13 | 07:33 AM
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Why would Bianchi put mounts for fenders/racks on the rear of the frame but not the front fork? Makes no sense to me. I love the mounts. Why just go halfway?
05-02-13 | 07:59 AM
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Bikes: 1983 Univega Gran Turismo, 1970 Schwinn Super Sport, 2001 Univega Modo Vincere, Self-Built Nashbar Touring, 1974 Peugeot U08, 1974 Atala Grand Prix, 1986 Ross Mt. Hood, 80's Maruishi MT-18
I have the same setup on my 2001 Univega Modo Vincere. I could give a rat's @$$ if it's fashionable or not. That aspect of cycling doesn't matter to me. Providing for my family comes way ahead of any need to be fashionable.
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