Somebody stop this guy!
#151
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Sorry I do not have a good gram scale for an exact comparison, but I'm not delusional that this work is about anything more than just the style and never felt I really needed one.
I would also suggest if his selling point is that his crank weighs less than a current Super Record 11 set he add the weight of a NR bottom bracket, as the SR 11 includes axles and bearings. But then again we have to bring reality in to the discussion for that......
I would also suggest if his selling point is that his crank weighs less than a current Super Record 11 set he add the weight of a NR bottom bracket, as the SR 11 includes axles and bearings. But then again we have to bring reality in to the discussion for that......
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#153
That kinda looks like the one D. Dude did, that broke. There are, of course, diminishing returns depending on how much material you remove. I'm going to try my first drilled component this winter. First since 1977 that is, when I did a couple chain rings with a hand drill.
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Yes, my point though is I would need a gram scale to give an exact weight difference, not just be able to say, " about an ounce".
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Anyone who drills crank arms is a few balls short of a headset.
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#158
That kinda looks like the one D. Dude did, that broke. There are, of course, diminishing returns depending on how much material you remove. I'm going to try my first drilled component this winter. First since 1977 that is, when I did a couple chain rings with a hand drill.
Funny to see this old thing (only the second ever example of my drillium) so many years later. He rode it for a couple years, btw

DD
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Answer: 9 years and counting 
It's true - I milled this for a buddy of mine who ran it for a couple of years on his Gios. I found out a couple years ago he passed it along to an enthusiast in Japan (it appears this photo shows the RD on the Japanese guy's rig).
Only my second-ever attempt at drillium, too
DD

It's true - I milled this for a buddy of mine who ran it for a couple of years on his Gios. I found out a couple years ago he passed it along to an enthusiast in Japan (it appears this photo shows the RD on the Japanese guy's rig).
Only my second-ever attempt at drillium, too

DD
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Interesting - I think that's the second completely-hollowed-out NR rear I did (I kept the first). It was done for my buddy in WA in West Seattle; he told me he passed it on to a guy in Japan IIRC. This pic is obviously after he passed it on, because my buddy was a gram-freak and cut his cables right up against the pinch-bolts and didn't even cap them.
Funny to see this old thing (only the second ever example of my drillium) so many years later. He rode it for a couple years, btw
DD
Funny to see this old thing (only the second ever example of my drillium) so many years later. He rode it for a couple years, btw

DD
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#161
Personally, after number 3 snapped in half, I retired number 1. It sits on my display shelf right here in my room on DG today

DD
#162
To my eye, I'm surprised any of them lasted!
Looking at that pic above, it amazes me. Especially that area where the end of the spring sits. Looks so fragile. It just goes to show the power , and strength, of forged aluminum I suppose. Nice work, BTW.
Looking at that pic above, it amazes me. Especially that area where the end of the spring sits. Looks so fragile. It just goes to show the power , and strength, of forged aluminum I suppose. Nice work, BTW.
#163
As for the failed one, well, it was just subjected to a load unlike what it would experience during use while being assembled. In any case, lesson learned. I only did two more (with simple drillings on the back plate) with a hollow front plate and sold them on Ebay a couple/three years ago. I don't think I'll be doing any more unless someone commissions one. I did that for Poprad, for example.
DD
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AFA weight savings, aluminum skewer nuts would be a lot better bang/buck. But nowhere near as cool as well-executed drillium.
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Is he related to the guy in Poland who put his "Pantographing" on Ebay? I tried to point out that his freehand engraving looked as though it was done by somebody with the DT's and he accused me of being racist towards Polish people. When I told him my wife was part Polish and I was just prejudiced against sloppy workmanship he gave a similar answer to the guy above.
#169
Sign of the times these days - too many people are going high and right when it comes to taking offense to things 
DD

DD
#170
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And he's now selling über-rare Shimano 'XO SWEPE' (ADAMAS AX inverted, minus an 'A') first-gen aero levers. What a maroon.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/SHIMANO-AERO...item3385d833d8
https://www.ebay.com/itm/SHIMANO-AERO...item3385d833d8
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