The 75th Anniversary Paramount
09-28-13 | 08:34 AM
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I think Waterford would be happy to make any configuration you want. As it is a custom build jut like the Paramount above $$$$ is a reality no matter where you go. There are plenty of quality non sloping top tube frames to be had in the used market for cheap. I got a Waterford built 1986 Paramount SLX frame and fork for $250. While I know some can do better than that it was still a deal.
If Schwinn had survived there line up would look much like Trek. Paramount would have gone through an aluminum phase and moved to a carbon racer today. Remember PDG? It is possible they would make a high quality steel bike but those number would look much like what Waterford produces today and probably at the same price levels. Custom and niche market manufacturing has never been cheap.
I like the idea of modernizing the Paramount in the factory that produced them with the utmost quality to take the name forward. This bike is worthy of the name and it would be a shame to hang it on a wall. That bike should be ridden.
My Paramount is a bit bigger than I would have liked but still fits. The bike begs to be ridden in the drops and I can stay there with comfort for long stretches. Great bike
If Schwinn had survived there line up would look much like Trek. Paramount would have gone through an aluminum phase and moved to a carbon racer today. Remember PDG? It is possible they would make a high quality steel bike but those number would look much like what Waterford produces today and probably at the same price levels. Custom and niche market manufacturing has never been cheap.
I like the idea of modernizing the Paramount in the factory that produced them with the utmost quality to take the name forward. This bike is worthy of the name and it would be a shame to hang it on a wall. That bike should be ridden.
My Paramount is a bit bigger than I would have liked but still fits. The bike begs to be ridden in the drops and I can stay there with comfort for long stretches. Great bike
Originally Posted by 2008 BikeRadar article
As the lugs are fully custom creations, Waterford can accommodate nearly any geometry so you can make the handling as edgy or sedate as you wish.
Originally Posted by https://schwinnparamount75th.com/
The lugs had been fabricated weeks ago (each lugset is individually crafted for each order).
09-30-13 | 02:04 PM
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Now that there is a picture of a complete frame, I have to admit, my jaw is on the floor! 
This is the first 75th Anniversary frame and is built for electronic shifting, so no need for RD & FD cable stops on the down tube. I like the 75th so much better than the 70th.
A classically styled fork in white and polished stainless would look so sweet on this frame!
I wonder if I could talk Mrs. PB into an early retirement gift (about 10 years)? 
This is the first 75th Anniversary frame and is built for electronic shifting, so no need for RD & FD cable stops on the down tube. I like the 75th so much better than the 70th.
A classically styled fork in white and polished stainless would look so sweet on this frame!
I wonder if I could talk Mrs. PB into an early retirement gift (about 10 years)?
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09-30-13 | 05:20 PM
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Does look good, but not $7,000. good.
09-30-13 | 05:50 PM
#56
Now that there is a picture of a complete frame, I have to admit, my jaw is on the floor!
This is the first 75th Anniversary frame and is built for electronic shifting, so no need for RD & FD cable stops on the down tube. I like the 75th so much better than the 70th.
A classically styled fork in white and polished stainless would look so sweet on this frame!
I wonder if I could talk Mrs. PB into an early retirement gift (about 10 years)?
This is the first 75th Anniversary frame and is built for electronic shifting, so no need for RD & FD cable stops on the down tube. I like the 75th so much better than the 70th.
A classically styled fork in white and polished stainless would look so sweet on this frame!
I wonder if I could talk Mrs. PB into an early retirement gift (about 10 years)? I would not have requested the stainless. paint breaks as shown but it looks pretty good, it would need a full stainless fork though.
There are a few design details I would have done differently, but overall it works.
Not sure I would place an order. but but graphically I like it better than say what Waterford has been doing.
09-30-13 | 06:40 PM
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One would almost think there was anther motivation...amazing how many negative posts can be made over a frame one isn't interested in.
09-30-13 | 07:32 PM
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This thread stirred up some interest for me in Waterford.
I was digging through their Flickr and their price sheet after work today.
I must admit, I was pleasantly surprised at the nice Waterfords available and their attractive price schedule.
I will eventually ease into a custom every-roader in the next few years and the S-22 caught my eye.
I was digging through their Flickr and their price sheet after work today.
I must admit, I was pleasantly surprised at the nice Waterfords available and their attractive price schedule.
I will eventually ease into a custom every-roader in the next few years and the S-22 caught my eye.
09-30-13 | 08:45 PM
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09-30-13 | 09:21 PM
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$7,000 was the price for the 70th anniversay frameset.
The photo Pastor Bob posted is of the 75th anniversary frameset, and appears to be the Air front/ Stainless Rear version with polished stainless head lugs, seat lug and stays. It's $4,750.
The photo Pastor Bob posted is of the 75th anniversary frameset, and appears to be the Air front/ Stainless Rear version with polished stainless head lugs, seat lug and stays. It's $4,750.
10-01-13 | 03:22 AM
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10-01-13 | 03:31 AM
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We'll see what I come up with......
10-01-13 | 04:52 AM
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Two more years until I retire, I have enough Steel bikes to keep me entertained. I'm still building an all Stainless roadbike this December as my Christmas present. It will be built by Terraferma Cycles, sure , it may not have the Paramount decals, but it will turn out just as nice. That waterford looks good, but it's not for me.
10-01-13 | 05:04 AM
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Two more years until I retire, I have enough Steel bikes to keep me entertained. I'm still building an all Stainless roadbike this December as my Christmas present. It will be built by Terraferma Cycles, sure , it may not have the Paramount decals, but it will turn out just as nice. That waterford looks good, but it's not for me.
The Waterford pictured above is a beauty, but there are so many options.........
10-01-13 | 07:37 AM
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The 25th anniversary of my ordination is next spring. Maybe if I keep regularly using the word "Paramount" in sermons for the next several months the congregation will get the hint.
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10-01-13 | 07:38 AM
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I'm not sure if Simon is making Hanfords right now or not (he opened a shop this summer), but he would be one of my top choices for a bike. Dave Anderson and Kirk would also rank at the top for me if I wanted steel.
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10-01-13 | 08:06 AM
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10-01-13 | 08:07 AM
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