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I would take Magni with a pinch of salt if its not a decal tuning until someone confirms it from another source.
This bike somehow has nothing in common with the Losa built steel frames when it comes to detailing minus the decals. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9a1f0487b.jpeg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c4c594a2e.jpeg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...dd26383bf.jpeg |
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6fd59ff18.jpeg
MANTOVANI - again something I have never heard of |
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...18307ac58.jpeg
Lets wrap up the day witk a joke(er) I guess this poor one had nothing to do with Sannino, and in the 70s also the POWERED BY SRAM sticker must have been quite futuristic. please dont add SANNINO to the list ;) |
Okay Lattz! I'll hold off on the Sannino but you have given me some homework so I have a few additions that need to be made.
I'll get around to those in my usual (lazy) manner...;) But we appreciate the homework YOU have done! UPDATE: the 4 above (not the "Sannino") are now on the List |
It's been a while since any new contributions to "the List" but we now stand at 67 re-brands of various ALAN frames.
So just came upon another CF (Carbone) ALAN branded as a Nishiki, and tho this was one of the earliest entries to the List (at number 2!) I am adding this pic from a recent Facebook ad ... this bike is for sale in Modesto, CA https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...736ecf1131.jpg FYI for those who care the post that contains "The List" is number 71, so a trip back in time, with my browser it's on page 3 of this thread |
Schauff - was on Maurice Moss's list, but heres photo evidence. The text is funny:
"HANS SCHAUFF has been working for years on fiber-carbon frame construction. Now Trocadero has gone into series production, after sufficient long-term experience was available. In the design, special attention was paid to smooth-running properties, ease of handling, and comfort. The technology is selected from the top products of component manufacturers worldwide. Deliberately, the usual use of complete assemblies was avoided." Also interesting they avoided the ALAN fork. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6909f5b05.jpeg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a21cf2f628.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...dbde42103a.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2c8e615774.jpg |
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Okay Lattz! Time to add 3 more to "the List", Thanks!
Curious about what crankset is on the Iacopini: it looks like maybe a custom CNC piece (or a CNC-modified regular brand)? |
Originally Posted by unworthy1
(Post 23640383)
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Curious about what crankset is on the Iacopini: it looks like maybe a custom CNC piece (or a CNC-modified regular brand)? https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...76fb4a9cc.jpeg |
Originally Posted by non-fixie
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Thanks for ID-ing that! |
Originally Posted by unworthy1
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Bingo!
Thanks for ID-ing that! That Iacopini is a classic bitzer - crankset, stem and seatpost surely original but Shimano rear changer, Suntour front and Aero Gran Compe(?) brakes with newer Campagnolo levers perhaps not. Classic mix of original build, upgrades and parts bin…! |
My take is this Iacopini crank started as a stock GPM product but was re-worked using CNC machining/milling and finally pantographed with that name "Iacopini".
'Course I could be all wrong because I sure wasn't there when it happened. |
The Iacopini crank definitely spent some time getting a "treatment" under the CNC machine, it most likely wasn't something unusual for them, like for many other shops back in the days. Now looking at it on PC instead on the phone, its a bit disappointing that seemingly they used a sticker on the seat post, instead of a panto, nonetheless it is cool.
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Here's my Guerciotti, as I was bringing it home after buying it off Craigslist in the San Francisco Bay Area in October 2025. The frame appears to be identical to the one at #131 - indeed, my serial number is very close to that one.
Mine here is missing the decal on the seat tube that appears on #131 ... but TBH, I like it better this way! Funny - the ad for the bike at #131 - linked in that post, and containing more photos - is still up on OfferUp, two years after the sale. Speaking of serial numbers, I've looked for a way to decode the numbers on Alan-made frames, but a guide doesn't appear to exist - am I wrong about that? I did write to both Alan and Guerciotti, but neither of them responded. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5ddc8448b.jpeg |
fabiofarelli How did you determine that your bike here (post #42) is from June 1981? Did you buy it then, or determine the date from the serial number? I'm trying to date my Guerciotti/Alan frame.
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Originally Posted by Kurt_B
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fabiofarelli How did you determine that your bike here (post #42) is from June 1981? Did you buy it then, or determine the date from the serial number? I'm trying to date my Guerciotti/Alan frame.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c3cadb264a.jpg Maybe this helps too, scroll scroll scroll: https://fabiofarelli.blogspot.com/p/alan.html And this https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4a7490ed87.jpg So as this: https://fabiofarelli.blogspot.com/20...amenumber.html Good luck and enjoy your Alan! |
fabiofarelli Wow - on my Carbonio that serial number is SUBTLE! It's barely legible. It appears to say "686 30". Maybe the 30th frame in the month of June 1986?
Thank you for telling me where to find it. And yes, I am enjoying my Alan very much! |
my turn to make an addition: while searching for a fork for a modern Fondriest frame (Deda steel) I came across this ad on eBay for a re-branded ALAN CX frameset.
Odd that it's got both Fondriest brands plus a Rossi logo on the top tube, but maybe was a co-sponsored CX team Anyhow I had to take this one screenshot from the ad, there are 14 more pix if you care to search eBay for the listing this is now #71 in "the List"https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...abc17b5c6b.png |
Just brought this home this afternoon:
GANDI - 184 Av Paul Santy Lyon 8e 58x57 Almost completely Spidel Alan only on the bottom of the bottom bracket The dating guide makes me think 1976-77 based on no cable guides but round hole rear dropout. More pictures after I find a seat, levers and bars. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4fab12e251.jpg |
Wow, that's pretty.
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Still digging through my stuff to find an appropriate RD, but this will do for now.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9d508d3229.jpg Gandi labeled 1976/77 Alan |
will add this Gandi to the list...but I always thought he spelled it "Gandhi"
;) ^ this is the clue that I was attempting to make a joke |
Gandi, without a 'h'. From Lyon, France.
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https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f7a6fc70fb.jpg
I've had this one for a long time. Rides like a wet noodle, but I built it along time ago and just can't get rid of it. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...be66f254ba.jpg Don't know if this is an Alan frame though. Also the French Comete for the french market. It was a galaxy for the American market. |
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