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chain_whipped 09-24-24 09:41 AM

Recent glancing from that big online sale site.
Colnago already mentioned but this AlAn made bitubo is not often seen.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ea8d9f69ad.png
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3a05cfd79f.png
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c319063a39.png
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c6b9d965b2.png
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...339e1a6ce9.png

chain_whipped 09-24-24 09:47 AM

Another private labeled; Dazzan. Where are all the classic AlAn cyclo-x bikes? Few survivors.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4eb8accb2c.png
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d2f41d2c91.png
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c1a6a57c8e.png
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4ecbd808f0.png
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...72aecbd5d9.png


chain_whipped 09-24-24 10:48 AM

Sciutto
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c9af73dbde.png
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e9dccdf594.png
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...40d1f4002e.png

unworthy1 09-24-24 11:18 PM

Sciutto and Dazzan (but misspelled with one "Z") were both on the huge list of names posted by MauriceMoss. But now with these provided pix they become entries to "the List" Plus will add a sub-note to Colnago to ref there was also a rare "bitubo" model...Thanks!

fabiofarelli 09-26-24 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by unworthy1 (Post 23357087)
Plus will add a sub-note to Colnago to ref there was also a rare "bitubo" model...Thanks!

Post #17 was a Bitubo too but at these pics it's better to see.

unworthy1 09-26-24 10:54 PM


Originally Posted by fabiofarelli (Post 23358267)
Post #17 was a Bitubo too but at these pics it's better to see.

yes it was! I wondered where the note that mentions "dual-ergo" came from, but I believe this is the same as "Bitubo".
So unless I hear otherwise I will correct the notes following the Colnago entry to clarify

SoCaled 10-04-24 01:41 PM

This popped up on the CR list, thought it was apropos to this thread.
Guide to date Alan Frames - https://www.dcisite.be/en/artikel-info/alan-guide
Edit: Includes a list of "re-branded" Alan's - A number of these are not on "the list" (post #71)

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...72345f74d0.png

unworthy1 10-04-24 02:37 PM

the above ^ made it into this thread courtesy of prolific contributor @Lattz, see post #78

My arbitrary "rule" is the mention of a re-brand existing is the first step to inclusion on "the List", but must be followed with photo evidence ("Pix, or it didn't happen")

So as soon as somebody posts a pic of something with the re-brand legible enough for me to read and re-type it, it shall then enter the rolls!

When I get around to it...;)

unworthy1 10-05-24 07:51 PM

My turn to add one: searching for evidence to ID another ALAN mystery frame I stumbled upon a photo "collage" with enough there to ID a CX frame with a name not yet included (and one not on the huge list from MauriceMoss either!)
Masciarelli
and has some unique cable routing details, not sure if the tubes are CF or ? but likely they are

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c6b3bb061b.jpg

fabiofarelli 10-09-24 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by unworthy1 (Post 23365154)
My turn to add one: searching for evidence to ID another ALAN mystery frame I stumbled upon a photo "collage" with enough there to ID a CX frame with a name not yet included (and one not on the huge list from MauriceMoss either!)
Masciarelli
and has some unique cable routing details, not sure if the tubes are CF or ? but likely they are

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c6b3bb061b.jpg

You mean the picture down-right I suppose? I've seen this before and I think I got a picture but I cannot find it ...

unworthy1 10-09-24 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by fabiofarelli (Post 23367628)
You mean the picture down-right I suppose? I've seen this before and I think I got a picture but I cannot find it ...

Yes, that in particular but the entire package of cables all on top tube (a CX thing) combined with this "up-pull" cable for the FD and the half-circle cable bridge for the rear brake cable are things I had not seen before on an ALAN

fabiofarelli 10-10-24 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by unworthy1 (Post 23368048)
Yes, that in particular but the entire package of cables all on top tube (a CX thing) combined with this "up-pull" cable for the FD and the half-circle cable bridge for the rear brake cable are things I had not seen before on an ALAN

Check the Top Cross Trekking

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c9a848e59b.jpg

and here a photo of the top tube from a CX I own.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9db72cffde.jpg

I still did not find the picture of the Record CX ...

unworthy1 10-10-24 12:29 PM

I cannot get the little catalog pix enlarged and sharp enough to be sure, but seems like the Top Cross Trekking model does have the seat cluster with cables for both derailleurs (and FD passing thru the seat lug) plus the rear brake bridge...unless you tell me I'm wrong I will amend the notes for Masciarelli to name that model
Would the Top Cross Trekking need different (from the ones on the red frame above) top tube cable guides that accommodate all 3 cables?

unworthy1 01-03-25 01:57 PM

here's a new one (maybe) a Masi re-branded CX model, this blurry pic snagged from another thread discussing vintage CX bikes (and mainly with steel frames).
I will wait until confirmation that I read the decals correctly and this is in fact a re-branded Masi/ALAN



https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3244dcb59.jpeg

Chombi1 01-03-25 11:05 PM

What I don't get is why some consider bonded frame bikes like the ALANs, suspect when it came to how well their frames might hold together, when ALAN was the go-to bike for professional cyclocrossers in the 80's ajd early 90's??

mackgoo 01-04-25 12:31 AM


Originally Posted by unworthy1 (Post 23427983)
here's a new one (maybe) a Masi re-branded CX model, this blurry pic snagged from another thread discussing vintage CX bikes (and mainly with steel frames).
I will wait until confirmation that I read the decals correctly and this is in fact a re-branded Masi/ALAN



https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3244dcb59.jpeg

Colnago.

unworthy1 01-04-25 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by mackgoo (Post 23428272)
Colnago.

DOH! now I see it, and we already have Colnago as a entry (although not a specific CX model) so I will just edit that entry to reflect the variety of re-branded "Colnagos" that were produced and documented.
Thanks for your better eyesight!

seagrade 01-04-25 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by Chombi1 (Post 23428259)
What I don't get is why some consider bonded frame bikes like the ALANs, suspect when it came to how well their frames might hold together, when ALAN was the go-to bike for professional cyclocrossers in the 80's ajd early 90's??

At the risk of rejuvenating the entire “my Alan is still together after 45 years so they’re all indestructible” commentary, then as now race frames were a consumable.

Alan, to their credit, created an innovative and sufficiently durable frame that was significantly lighter than steel competitors, and I suspect provided an unlimited supply to the best racers, creating demand downwards, and from competitors who felt they had to race an Alan but were obligated to rebrand them.

Cross is yet another field in which I’m not an expert, but Alan frames could be ideally suited in that occasional failures were generally not catastrophic and if necessary swapped out next lap?

Rothchild 03-03-25 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by unworthy1 (Post 22820156)
I realize I have neglected my "duties" as originating this compilation/list in that I never actually made a LIST!

So here's what we have so far, brands are more or less in the order mentioned, where there was mention-only (no pix) I follow the name with (?).
Where there was a specific Carbonio model with that brand I follow the name with (CF).

There were a few decals (not frames) displayed so despite them being pix of decals I follow them with (?) but happy to edit any that eventually show up as frames or complete bikes.

And to edit for any mistakes, typos, omissions...

1. Fanini (CF and ALU)
2. Nishiki (CF)
3. Gitane
4. Carlos
5. Guerciotti
6. Colnago (twin down tube Duall-Ergal, also known as a "Bitubo" model, plus standard Record models, and ALU CX model)
7. Azzuri ("female" step-thru frame)
8. Bontekoe
9. Carrera (CF, + some with blue, or red, tint clearcoat)
10. Performance (CF Hybrid?)
11. Basso (?)
12. Peugeot Model 1000 (CF)
13. Tommaso
14. Toray (?) (Torayca, Japan?)
15. Olmo (CF)
16. Cosmos
17. A. Zoli (Azoli ?)
18. Donnay (CF)
19. Arnaldo Prioli (?)
20. CO Bianchi (?)
21. Calzoni Merone (?)
22. J.G. Malidin (?)
23. SELECT (?)
24. Gerber
25. Da Vinci
26. Battistini
27. Lazzaretti
28. Rowona (AKA Rolf Wolfshohl)
29. Thei Sprint
30. Frera
31. CIOCC
32. Waja
33. Rokado (?)
34. Gios
35. Gamba
36. Fangio
37. Plum Vainqueur
38. RIH (Vienna, Austria)
39. Pinto (Mel Pinto Special)
40. JLG
41. Cora
42. G. Fatato
43. Vassallo
44. EUROCYCLES (Delsarte)
45. Rampon
46. GB / DANNER
47. Famina
48. Effetibi
49. Theo Intra
50. Walter Uccheddu
51. Kivada (CF, OS, and MTB)
52. Cycles Record (maybe just branded with a "generic" aftermarket decal set)
53. XEGOS (24" wheels)
54. Coppi
55. Torpado (and a Team Sponsor: Magniflex/Torpado rode ALAN bikes)
56. Stevens (Mountain Bike)
57. Barale (G. Barale on the headtube sticker)
58. Bolley ("Cycles Bolley")
59. Turin (possible housebrand sold by Chicago Area shop)
60. Dazzan (CX frame)
61. Sciutto (Super Record frame)
62. Masciarelli (per '92 catalog probable Top Cross Trekking model, uncertain of tubing material}

Not mine, but it caught my eye as it's very similarly specced to mine - spotted on ebay, a 'Special CNC' Alan:


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2cb09a851e.jpg
Alan bike, badged as 'CNC'

unworthy1 03-03-25 05:41 PM

I will add this C.N.C Special to the List, thanks for bringing one more to our attention!
Any more details as to where this C.N.C. Brand originated ?

unworthy1 03-03-25 05:54 PM

I asked about this in a completely other thread, cause I thought I had saved a good link to the ALAN Guide (such a valuable reference), but then couldn't find it!

So here is a valid link that was posted by SoCaled in post #182 and am "parking" it here so it will be easier to find in future:

https://www.dcisite.be/en/artikel-info/alan-guide

Rothchild 03-04-25 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by unworthy1 (Post 23468764)
I will add this C.N.C Special to the List, thanks for bringing one more to our attention!
Any more details as to where this C.N.C. Brand originated ?

Sorry I didn't do any more research on it, and should have at least shared the ebay link (as it's a reasonable price for a nice bike and there are more pictures): https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/306133068136

unworthy1 03-04-25 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by Rothchild (Post 23469293)
Sorry I didn't do any more research on it, and should have at least shared the ebay link (as it's a reasonable price for a nice bike and there are more pictures): https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/306133068136

interesting! With all those French components I wonder if it's a French re-branded ALAN?
But then this headbadge sticker could point us there or to the Netherlands (but upside down)?
Anyhow I will make the addition to the List and see if any of our experts from Benelux and France have more to contribute about C.N.C. (not the computer-controlled metal-working process)

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...60e1f84f99.png

Lattz 03-04-25 05:02 PM

Hello
Some casual browsing on things I have no money for on the classifieds I bumped into a few things:
ALAN Carbonio MTB from Paletti
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...51e1cbfbf.jpeg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...33aab4f38.jpeg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...016ec7473.jpeg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b8a9aba57.jpeg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2391f9dcf.jpeg
Available on Subito for EUR 350 (Im not affiliated)

Lattz 03-04-25 05:04 PM

I have never heard about Guaita so no clue if its a shop or a team or an ex-rider.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...339f4cde9.jpeg


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