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Originally Posted by Lattz
(Post 22868856)
https://www.bikeforums.net/21615341-post3.html https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...cd067f9eff.jpg |
Originally Posted by non-fixie
(Post 22875726)
I don't believe "Record" was a true brand. These decals were found on various bikes, amongst which a Mercier that I own.
https://www.bikeforums.net/21615341-post3.html https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...cd067f9eff.jpg |
Originally Posted by Lattz
(Post 22875733)
Can be. Where I took the pic from claimed they were a build up shop like Fanini (minus maybe the fact that Fanini had own team as well). Of course I cant check if true or not.
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recent Offer Up advert for a frameset + in So Cal.
This appears to be an early https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...69a32ef16c.jpg |
Originally Posted by unworthy1
(Post 23020117)
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This appears to be an early Record frame made for 24" wheels |
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Think this ^ may be another one-off with a generic (Champion) decal, or even hand painted graphic?
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Originally Posted by unworthy1
(Post 23024381)
Think this ^ may be another one-off with a generic (Champion) decal, or even hand painted graphic?
Edit: and this is a early, first generation Alan, 1972/1973 |
Thanks to SoCaled adding this re-branded Coppi to the list (pix from an Offer Up ad in Los Angeles)
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e3ea85c503.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5503631f82.jpg due to the "wreaths" in the headlugs I'll guess this is a "Super Record" model |
Originally Posted by fabiofarelli
(Post 23024803)
STorpado was one of these builders. Torpado was also one of the first brands that used Alan frames and sold them under their own name.
Then I will gladly add Torpado (and/or Torresini) to the list! |
Originally Posted by unworthy1
(Post 23042481)
I certainly have no reason to doubt, but since i have this "photo(s) or it doesn't count" rule could you perhaps dig up a pic of an ALAN with Torpado branding?
Then I will gladly add Torpado (and/or Torresini) to the list! https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0ac85002aa.jpg |
Torpado now added to the list. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by unworthy1
(Post 23042470)
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5503631f82.jpg
due to the "wreaths" in the headlugs I'll guess this is a "Super Record" model I've never seen, read or heard about a Coppi re-brand. This could be 'home work'. But it's a '73/'74 frame and the head badge is as used by Fiorelli-Coppi those days, so everything is possible. |
I don't know if STEVENS is a thing over in the US, but here in Europe, they are a well established German brand.
In the local ad I saw this, and the seller was nice enough to include a pic about their anniv. pic proving its not home grown. Both the lugs and DO looks somewhat different to the orig. ALANs, so its a big ? if Ludovico & Co. had to do anything with these or not, maybe an entry with ? in the list or just leave out and use for entertainment. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...df21e03bb0.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...cd1a937fbc.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7fd18b2d7e.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...81af43e694.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...18197ce69f.jpg |
Originally Posted by Lattz
(Post 23044116)
I don't know if STEVENS is a thing over in the US, but here in Europe, they are a well established German brand.
In the local ad I saw this, and the seller was nice enough to include a pic about their anniv. pic proving its not home grown. Both the lugs and DO looks somewhat different to the orig. ALANs, so its a big ? if Ludovico & Co. had to do anything with these or not, maybe an entry with ? in the list or just leave out and use for entertainment. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...18197ce69f.jpg This is the Record model from Alan, made from mid-eighties by Alan and '92/'93 in commission by Carbon Valley. So it's probably a Carbon Valley bought by Stevens and re-branded in thir first year. If there are no Alan engravings it's pretty sure. I never saw this one either. |
Since this "Stevens" example has some questions, I'm going to let it kick around for a while before adding this to the list.
Welcoming any additional insights or trivia notes on the topic, from anybody who has them! |
Originally Posted by fabiofarelli
(Post 23044171)
As from the Netherlands I'm familiar with Stevens.
This is the Record model from Alan, made from mid-eighties by Alan and '92/'93 in commission by Carbon Valley. So it's probably a Carbon Valley bought by Stevens and re-branded in thir first year. If there are no Alan engravings it's pretty sure. I never saw this one either. So they also built on MTB frame from ALAN as well (ALAN not mentioned in their "history"), later they had own frame designs. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b9e5c1f2f7.jpg |
Originally Posted by Lattz
(Post 23044746)
Now I went on and see, they were selling the MTB version as well. Interestingly they were founded in '90 as a 2 part company, first was a wholesale for premium bike and parts brands, the other made their own bikes.
So they also built on MTB frame from ALAN as well (ALAN not mentioned in their "history"), later they had own frame designs. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b9e5c1f2f7.jpg I for one have never seen an ALAN mountain bike in person (with ALAN or any brandname) |
Originally Posted by unworthy1
(Post 23044879)
just for my own clarity: is this pic of an ALAN MTB frame that was re-branded and sold as a "Stevens"?
I for one have never seen an ALAN mountain bike in person (with ALAN or any brandname) Here's are "legit" examples: https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e0561c30f2.png https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fda46196f6.png |
"Stevens" now added to the list but since we aren't 100% sure about the Road frame it's just for the confirmed MTB ALAN (for now).
Thanks again to Lattz and fabiofarelli! |
My Kivada-Alan. As you see it's the same model.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...bc71690458.jpg |
Originally Posted by fabiofarelli
(Post 23045790)
My Kivada-Alan. As you see it's the same model.
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Originally Posted by Lattz
(Post 23045803)
What brand Kivada is? Is it Dutch? Never heard of them.
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Kivada was already in the list (no. 51) but have added "MTB" to the notes
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Originally Posted by unworthy1
(Post 23044879)
just for my own clarity: is this pic of an ALAN MTB frame that was re-branded and sold as a "Stevens"?
I for one have never seen an ALAN mountain bike in person (with ALAN or any brandname) https://offerup.com/item/detail/636b...q=alan&cid=7.4 https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sf...674446957.html https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...76894d512b.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...bbbbbb794c.jpg |
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