Nervar Bottom Bracket Question....
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Nervar Bottom Bracket Question....
I am using a Nervar crankset (50.4 BCD) not sure of the model number in a frame spaced 126mm. I hThe crankset came with a spindle (no cups) maked 118mm. I know that there is the ISO vs. JIS taper issue so I was using a 122mm cartridge bb and in 7th gear, the driveside crank arem is hitting the chain. It touches just a bit as the crank come around.
I checked the wheel dish with the Park dishing guage and it seems good. Has anyone ever had a bent crank arm? Any other things I should be looking for?
I checked the wheel dish with the Park dishing guage and it seems good. Has anyone ever had a bent crank arm? Any other things I should be looking for?
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the first thing to check in these situations is the chainline. sight from the back of drive side along the cogs and chainwheels. in a 7v setup the middle cog should line up right between the c/w's.
this will tell you if a change is warranted in either direction.
this will tell you if a change is warranted in either direction.
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Edit: Juvela is correct. It would be very helpful to do "before-and-after" driveline alignment checks. The crainrings must have moved inboard with respect to the cogs.
A bent crank is possible, but I think you would notice the resulting once-per-revolution pedal wobble. I suspect the cartridge makes your drive side crank sit a bit farther inboard, which you might be able to resolve by shimming the cartridge where it screws into the BB shell.
If you have a "pie plate" spoke protector or other shim on the freewheel, removing that will move your cogs inboard without affecting your wheel dish.
If neither of these suggestions helps, your only other options are to live with it, to add a washer to the drive side of the rear axle (and redish as necessary), or to get a longer BB spindle or one with a different taper.
A bent crank is possible, but I think you would notice the resulting once-per-revolution pedal wobble. I suspect the cartridge makes your drive side crank sit a bit farther inboard, which you might be able to resolve by shimming the cartridge where it screws into the BB shell.
If you have a "pie plate" spoke protector or other shim on the freewheel, removing that will move your cogs inboard without affecting your wheel dish.
If neither of these suggestions helps, your only other options are to live with it, to add a washer to the drive side of the rear axle (and redish as necessary), or to get a longer BB spindle or one with a different taper.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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This is the weirdest thing I've heard in a while, the crankarm hitting the chain!
It makes me wonder if the chainstays are perhaps offset toward the drive side, or if the two chainrings are perhaps both bolted to the driveside of the crankarm tabs.
As John E. says, a bent crankarm would manifest itself as a severe pedal wobbling.
Even weirder, since the JIS 122mm bottom bracket would certainly position the driveside crankarm further toward the driveside than would the original bb.
It makes me wonder if the chainstays are perhaps offset toward the drive side, or if the two chainrings are perhaps both bolted to the driveside of the crankarm tabs.
As John E. says, a bent crankarm would manifest itself as a severe pedal wobbling.
Even weirder, since the JIS 122mm bottom bracket would certainly position the driveside crankarm further toward the driveside than would the original bb.
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Or, the high gear cog is too close to the inner chain stay. There is a minimum clearance one has to be at. I tried a 7 speed freewheel on the P13 Paramount and had the same thing happen. The crank arm just barely rubs the chain in high gear. So, I put the 6 speed freewheel back on, problem solved.
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Or, the high gear cog is too close to the inner chain stay. There is a minimum clearance one has to be at. I tried a 7 speed freewheel on the P13 Paramount and had the same thing happen. The crank arm just barely rubs the chain in high gear. So, I put the 6 speed freewheel back on, problem solved.
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Who needs a 7th cog anyway?
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Has anyone ever had a bent crank arm?


Just the crank arm was damaged. Everything else was bang on straight.
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Is it this crank? This is on the Schwinn Superior I'm restoring. For what it's worth, this one is bent inward a bit. Also, I bent the right crank on my original Superior many years ago. It seems the zee French cranks, zey are made of cheese...
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Yup, on this old Peugeot PE41 roadster...


Just the crank arm was damaged. Everything else was bang on straight.


Just the crank arm was damaged. Everything else was bang on straight.
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I believe all 7-speed freewheels already have "ultra" spacing.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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FWIW, the Sronglight 93 on my Le Champiion used a 118 spindle.








