baron von trail 

Occasionally I ride a century with a much stronger biker. He lets me draft the whole way. We both benefit. He can get in his workout and I can keep up.

Without the draft, I'd never be able to hang with him. With it, we run about even: same HR and similar fatigue levels, water, food and rest needs.

My only complaint is that over the years, we both seem to be getting equally stronger, because I still can't pull him.

meb

The guy trailing in the draft conserves about 25-30% relative a solo rider, the guy in the leads gets about a 5% reduction in his aerodrag due the trailer pushing the air behind the lead rather than have the lead riders air spill in behind him. Two riders trading pulls would save about 15% over solo efforts.
In a large pack the riders in the middle of a peloton save about 50% relative a solo effort.

meb

Since our entertaining Clyde ringer Beanz snuck above the Clydeline with the extra muscle mass due his being overloaded with T, maybe we should rename him Mr. T.

meb

What happenned to rule #9?

Mr. Beanz

I pity da fool!

jesspal

LOL "I ain't gettin on no plane Face"

bautieri

This religion, it is not what I think you think it is.

I'm Catholic too (Roman) and we have wine once a week, in church no less. You don't have to be 21 either. Not to mention if you dig into yee old Bible you will find out that Jesus had quite the penchant for alcohol. I have this conversation with my inlaws quite a bit when they try and play off drinking as being against Christianity, its not. If the guy you idolize and model you lifestyle after his teachings drinks alcohol is not ok to do the same? If we get to pick and choose I'll go review the Old Testament as there are more than a few amusing verses.

BTW Beanz, I've been active in this forum (and previously lurking) for quite some time. Your posts have become increasing egotistical and so full of testosterone it defies description. It's getting rather long in the tooth listening to you constantly beat off over your (daily) accomplishments, we get it, your awesome. Go do some crit racing already. However, if your testosterone is as truly charged in person at the age of 45 as it is on the interwebs I humbly suggest you have your testicles, adrenal, and pituitary glands checked over by a good endocrinologist. It's very possible something is not balancing you out normally a deficiency or worst case tumors. Yes this has happened to close family of mine, I'd hate for you to go the same route. Get to the doctors unless your an ITG.

baron von trail 

Hey now! Don't you be slammin my main man. Beanzie is my inspiration.

Wogster

[QUOTE=youcoming;8410390]Rule #1-#10 HTFU if you can't pull up front don't.


I think I missed something here, but what the heck does the H in HTFU stand for, I can figure out the TFU part, but not the H part?

evblazer

(H)arden

edbikebabe

Harden. Harden the f*&^ up.

OR... What they said ^^^^

Wogster

Okay thanks to all who replied....

Mr. Beanz

You stick in the mud people are just too funny. I guess some have a problem of STFU (softening the FU). It's a forum, it's the net, it's entertainment. Of course I am a strong rider, yes I do the climbs that I mention but it's entertainment. You really think I don't drink cause I'm Catholic, dude, wake up! All my friggin' unlces were alcoholics. With normal people, they would see it as a joke and have a few funny replies. Not you, you take thing too seriously. Maybe you shouldn't read my posts anymore, put me on block, just quit the whining about my threads, PUHLEASE!

Strange that others realize half my posts are in some sort of humor. Not your straight and narrow little mind. And sorry if you don't think that when I start training, that I ride hard or try hard. Oh what am I saying, you whine to when I talk about climbing 10,000 ft. I try to do things that are not to my advantage as far as a rider. You just keep telling the others they can't like you always do, very motivating and encouraging aren't you?

A crit, are you kididng? I know plenty of riders that do crits and believe me, doesn't mean they are stronger riders. Do you think I'd have a problem sitting in the middle of a pack of 50 guys when I'm in shape? Now if you had said roadrace or timetrial, then I'd think you were knew what competition is!

CliftonGK1

Isn't that the fun part of riding? I just signed up for an ACP 100K populaire next Sunday, and I know that there are some monster sized hills on the route. The randonneurs just love their climbing, and I'm looking forward to being part of that.
I don't know that SiR has any 10,000' 200k routes... but the fall 100k Mountain populaire has over 6000' in 70 miles (including a 1000' climb right off the starting line, and a 700' climb with some 15%+ to the finish line!) And many of the longer brevets cross our mountain passes, so they're 15 - 25 miles of 6% grade.

baron von trail 

Stick in the mud people.... That really is a good one.

Beanz, You just keep cranking up those hills while the rest of us suck wind just tapping on keys. The complainers are just jealous.

baron von trail 

I have an elevation change of 202 ft over the course of my century. Does that qualify for anything?

In all honesty, I am somewhat jealous of all you West Coast and Mountain area folks. I've been hiking up in the Cascades and Canadian Rockies but never cycling. I must add that to my to do list.

bautieri

Being a stronger rider has nothing to do with my suggestion to take up a crit or two. You crave competition and appariently need more of an outlet than the freds you meet on MUPs. By all means if you want your bike decals blown off have at the real road races and time trials.

CliftonGK1

Heck yeah it qualifies for something: A century is a century, man. Good on ya for 100 miles.

There's some hills around the SW Ohio area. I used to do a lot of hiking and riding when I lived in Cinci. I've only been up around Antioch once, so I don't remember what the hills are like around there, but it's not too long of a drive to get down to Cincinnati from there and get in some of those Cinci/N. Kentucky hills. Even SE Indiana has a few nice rolling routes.

baron von trail 

Yeah, Clifton, we have a few rolling hills up here in YS. The trail runs from my house down to Cinci, through Loveland and Morrow, along the Little Miami (if any of that rings a bell). The whole run is simply awesome. Lots of hills just south of Morrow -- some have called it the most scenic bikepath in the nation.

But, we sure don't have any of those 6000-footers.

CliftonGK1

I actually rode the length of that whole trail and camped out along the way. It's a wonderful path.

The highest ride we get around me is just over 4000'. If I want 5000' then I need to head down to Rainier, when the roads are open. 6000' around here would require the gnarliest studded tires you've ever seen, because most peaks that tall are glaciers or covered in a few feet of snow and ice except for a month or two.

Mr. Beanz

I'd have to say at this point you are an idiot if you think SOCal riders are Freds. I'm pretty sure my competition is when Im doing a 10,000 ft climb trying to beat some of the best riders in Socal! From what I see is your way of preaching to clydes "not everyone has to be a mtn goat" is your way of not having the nutties to go out an do one of the timed events.

And please get your thoughts straight. Doing a crit does not mean getting my doors blown off. I've blown the doors off plenty of racers on some big rides. Yeah, I think you are jealous cause I have the huevos to do some tough rides, so you just keep preaching to the others why we can't climb, I'll keep trying to motivate them....In other words, go whine somewhere else wuss!

dbikingman

Sounds like you must be going over some overpasses

bautieri

Ok, so I've decided I'm done spiking Beanz's blood pressure for the day, its far to easy.

The score card so far:

Bautieri: -1 for missing alcohol troll
Beanz: -2 for missing two obvious counter trolls.

If you want we can keep playing, honestly the Clyde section has been as dry as yesterdays biscotti but you gotta keep the intarwebz amusing somehow. Now if I were really trying to tick you off I'd point out all your strawman statements but I'd rather go ride my bike. Care to join me? We can ride over to the hardware store and load up on penny candy if you still want to be pals.

(try not to take the internet so seriously )

Mr. Beanz

No, actually I'm going our for a climbing ride so that I can kick arse and impress you on my next climbing event in June. No penny candies for me, when I run out, I will only take yours along with your lunch money so it's better I stay away. That's what the therapist rec'd!

Richard_Rides

Penny candy? When was the last time you were in a hardware store? 1954?