magohn

Give the guy a break. Let the first clyde here who has been 100% on following a fitness plan, throw the first burger.

I think its hard enough to keep up the monotony (yes, monotony) of sticking to a cycling/fitness routine without us jumping all over the guy.

I usually very much enjoy a bike ride but there have been many a time when it flashes through my brain "Whats the point?" (for example, when I realize I still cant break a 12mph average after two years) and I too falter for a few days. I have kept riding but I do "get" why people quit - its hard and its work.

tjspillman

Just ignore him, Rowan. At least you are trying.

Allen55

So that book would be worth buying, then?

Allen55

OK...how did I waste anyones time? I went back on the road driving my truck. My days were 11 driving hours, 10 hours asleep, 11 driving hours, etc., day after day, after day. All I did was sleep and drive. No time to do anything on that bike while I was out there. So, the bike sat at home and gathered dust. I got a bad cut on my leg that wouldnt heal because of my diabetes, which I came home to see my doctor about. She advised me to stay off of the truck until I could get it under control. Chest pains and tightness in my chest caused me to see a cardiologist at my drs request. I was told BY A DOCTOR not to ride, walk, run, etc until we got whatever I had going on under control. The D.O.T. will not let me drive a commercial vehicle with my sugars at the level that they WERE. My doctor basically told me to find a new job...one that wasnt sedentary. My cardiologist basically told me the same thing.

So, I was off of the bike due to my job, then due to my health at my doctors orders. I am cleared to ride by both my GP and Cardiologist now. I rode a little and found out that what I had gained on the bike, I lost. As well, I gained back the weight that I had lost and then some.

So, please tell me how you guys "wasted your time" by all of this. Frankly, I dont care what you think! If you feel that I wasted your time, then dont bother posting on my posts any longer. It wont hurt my feelings to have one less ******* posting to my questions. I really wish I knew why the cycling "community" has so many holier than thou people who think the sun cant shine until they wake up in the morning.

So, Rowan, stop wasting MY time posting your drivel on my posts if you cant post something at least constructive.

Just_Nigel

I think it was.. I still go back to it once in awhile to pick new things I missed in the first read... I can't vouch for the actual training plan but the info was valuable to me...

Neil_B

My apologies, I misread your original post. I thought you went out and pushed it hard for five miles. I didn't realize you had your bad experience after a ride around the block.

Mithrandir

Rowan, we are trying to be constructive here on this forum. I can see why you feel yanked around, but ranting about it is not going to help anyone. If you feel that advising Allen55 is a waste of time, it would be preferable to just stop posting your advice rather than taking an aggressive and possibly demotivating stance.

StephenH

Just a thought- if you go ride a while and get exhausted, there's no law that says you have to wait until the next day to do it some more.

Neil_B

I have to agree with Rowan. When the OP joined us last fall he made the usual 'I'm turning my life around' posts, then thought it amusing to tell us about a day he, helpless Type 2 victim, drove his blood sugar into the stratosphere on a pizza, soda, and candy binge. His response to overdosing on sugars was 'oh, I'll check it in the morning, its not important.' This was when he has secured work as a truck driver after previously being sidelined for being diabetic. When posters here who manage their diabetes began replying with "do you want to die" responses, the OP became upset with them, rather than himself. He also became upset with folks who pointed out a diabetic truck driver in a sugar stupor isn't the safest motorist on the road.

I wish the OP well, but like Rowan I wonder if Allen55's return is a repeat of last time. I'd like to see him succeed, but I wonder if he wants to himself. Too many people, here and elsewhere, will do anything to lose weight and restore their health as long as they don't have to give up what made them fat in the first place.

Neil_B

I think Rowan feels this keenly because, IIRC, he was at one time in the same line of work as Allen55. However, Rowan didn't operate a massive metal missile while playing Russian Roulette with his blood sugar.

Neil_B

OK, lets be constructive. Excellent idea. How are you controlling your diet/blood sugar? What steps, aside from riding a bike around the block, are you taking to lose weight?

Allen55

Hmmm...lets see.

1. Water. Water ONLY! No soft drinks going down my throat.
2. Carbs. Im watching carbs like a hawk! Im taking in less than 20mg of carbs per day, on purpose.
3. refined sugar. NONE! No exceptions.
4. Eating foods that are very low n the glycemic index to keep spikes in bs down.
5. Exercising as much as I can.
6. Reading and studying this disease and its complications.

FYI, since you need to know, when I came off of the truck my BS level was over 300. Now, I have a fasting BS of 129-154. Not where it NEEDS to be, but a LOT better than 300+. Im not playing around with this thing. You can believe me or you can choose not to. Personally I could care less if you do or not. Im not here to "yank chains" or to get advice from people and then not take said advice. Ive got better things that I can be doing than be here and getting accosted.

And BTW...im not just "riding a bike around the block" as your smart assed comment suggested. I lost the fitness that I had, which is why I posted this post. Im trying to turn around years of not giving a damn. Anyway, Neil, as your "constructive" post and your attempt at being a smart ass didnt make me feel any better, YOU can stay off of my posts as well. Wont hurt my feelings any.

eja_ bottecchia

Neil and Rowan, count me in.

I don't mean to be harsh, but all I see from the OP is the same blah, blah, blah.

I have Diabetes T2 and I know better than to stuff my face full of candy, pizza and soda. I will treat myself to a bowl of gelato after a long, hard ride but that is with the approval of my diabetes doctor.

I must admit that there was a time when my A1c numbers were sky high and that made me depressed. But I got off my butt off the chair, got it on the bike and began riding--and haven't stopped since then. When I started, a 10 to 15 miles ride was hard. Now a 70 miles ride seems short.

Perhaps if the OP spent less time writing and more time riding, he would be in better shape and eating less of the wrong kinds of foods.

BTW, diabetes does not kill, it is all the complications resulting from diabetes that will kill a person with out of control A1c numbers. High blood pressure, blindness, loss of limbs, kidney disease those are some of the things that a diabetic without self control can look forward to.

I wish the OP best of luck, hope that he can turn things around. Less blah blah and more ride ride, is a good start.

eja_ bottecchia

The correct expression is "I couldn't care less."



You are right, there are better things that you could be doing besides posting here.

Best of luck in bringing your BG (blood glucose) numbers down and keeping them down.

Neil_B

I don't need to know.

This time. In which case, congratulations.

No one "accosted" you. BTW, there was some excellent advice in this thread:

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...-BAD-Diabetic!

"Hmmmph! I didnt make it all the way around the block and I was blowing up." - Allen55, "My GOD, I'm out of shape!", post 1, 08/16/12, 7:56 PM. Pardon me for quoting you.

Just don't compare yourself to Rosa Parks this time, please.

Frydolin

6 months is a very long time. One time I took a 3 month break from biking because of heavy snowfall in my area and decided to ride my bike to work one day. Finishing that 3 mile commute to work sucked all my energy right out. I was too out of shape for biking despite having walked on a regular basis. Biking puts more strain on the CV system than walking at a moderate to fast pace through snow, apparently.

Neil_B

Understood that the big D isn't a killer in itself. I should have been more careful in my post.

BTW, aside from the big D I was once like the OP. Except I was 400 some pounds instead of 290. My first 'ride' was 7 minutes on a recumbent exercise bike, and I was exhausted. But I improved through eating less and better, and exercise. And taking responsibility. My weight is up at the moment from being sidelined before and after bilateral knee replacement surgery, but I'm still marking nearly seven years since I turned my life around, and for most of the past six years I've maintained 100 pounds of weight loss or more. I wish the OP success far beyond mine.

Neil_B

Here is the thread I mentioned:

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...-BAD-Diabetic!

The posts of sstorkel and Rowan are worth reading.

jethro56 

Neil_B: Well said!!!

Mithrandir

I do understand that. At the same time, we're all just human. We make mistakes. As clydes, the reason we're here in the first place is because we're extremely susceptible to being weak-willed when it comes to binging on food. My 40 pound slip-up over winter is a good reminder to me that it can happen to all of us, and that we should be patient and helpful with everyone here, because we make mistakes. It's better that he admitted it, and is now back trying to fix the problem, isn't it?

rumrunn6

maybe some cross training would help - can do some walking in between rides? maybe walk around the block then ride it the next day? keep doing that until you feel you can add a second block ... and so on ...

Neil_B

Yes, I agree that, if he is getting back on track, its better than if he wasn't.

eja_ bottecchia

Neil, I have followed your various posts in response to this OP's various threads.

Your comments are right on target. Being overweight and having diabetes is no excuse to avoiding doing the things that we know (and are told) we should be doing.

Man, you are an inspiration. To go from 400 pounds to your current weight, and to do it while dealing with bilateral knee surgery is amazing. You are a hard man dude!

Neil_B

Many people can do it, but thank you. Now to get back to my pre-surgery level of activity and get my weight back down.

mcrow

I agree. Just makes me think that if Neil can go from 400 to current weight and deal with bilateral knee surgery, I can damn well lose 50 pounds with an otherwise healthy body. Following Neil (reading his posts here) is deffinitely one of the things that keeps me motivated.