Dawes Streetfighter review
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I was in a bit of a weight weenie mood when I built my single speed Jake the Snake a couple of years ago, so I weighed everything and kept a spreadsheet. The final build came out to just over 18 pounds. Comparing my notes to the numbers you've mentioned, I think the big differences are as you say here: about 3 pounds (!!!) for the wheels/tires/freewheel, half a pound for the saddle, probably around a pound for the fork, around half a pound for the crankset, maybe as much as a pound for the frame. My wallet came out significantly lighter too -- just my frame and fork cost me twice what you paid for the whole bike.
Another thing to add to the review. I'd written it off as some SS peculiarity but the chain was noisy, as in needing lube noisy. But a new chain, on a new bike, needing lube - I just didn't consider it. After today's commute I finally checked. It was dry to the touch, not even sticky, and a little wet lube quieted it right down. So one more thing to add to the check-over list.
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How's the ride
I may be jumping the gun since I've only had it for a couple of commutes and a trip to the store, but I'm really pleased with the ride feel and handling so far. The Cromo frame and fork do seem to alleviate some harshness although I'm not wild about the tires. It came with 700c-25 (I didn't see brand) and they have that sort of low-end solid feeling that I associate with stock tires. I'll be replacing them eventually with 28's or 32 if it will fit.
The ticking freewheel will drive me batty. I've asked Bikes Direct to send me a replacement; if they don't come through* I'll have to buy one, probably an 18 tooth to compensate for the bike's heftiness.
The rack and splurging on a new blinkie and bottle cage added an extra $25 so the running total is $254. I still need fenders which will be $15 in parts, so ultimately $269 for the bike in commuter mode. I'll probably swap the tires with some nicer Prima 2 tires I've got so I won't count the tire cost yet.
* BD has already sent a replacement freewheel, immediately on my email. You can't ask for better than that.
The ticking freewheel will drive me batty. I've asked Bikes Direct to send me a replacement; if they don't come through* I'll have to buy one, probably an 18 tooth to compensate for the bike's heftiness.
The rack and splurging on a new blinkie and bottle cage added an extra $25 so the running total is $254. I still need fenders which will be $15 in parts, so ultimately $269 for the bike in commuter mode. I'll probably swap the tires with some nicer Prima 2 tires I've got so I won't count the tire cost yet.
* BD has already sent a replacement freewheel, immediately on my email. You can't ask for better than that.
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I had a White Industries freewheel on a Leader frame. It made the downtube sound like a beehive with the buzz resonating through the frame.
So much for discounting the freewheel for being cheap!!!!
But, with a fixed cog and only a front brake, the Leader weighed just over 16 pounds. It's on my PedalRoom.
So much for discounting the freewheel for being cheap!!!!
But, with a fixed cog and only a front brake, the Leader weighed just over 16 pounds. It's on my PedalRoom.
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To show that it really is set up for commuting/utility:
On the fixed gear side I was now rewarded with a different noise (which turned out to be some stupidly loose spokes, which I should have caught during my inspection mea culpa). In the sunlight, with my specs on, I was able to see this on the rim:



Look at the edge of the rim. I haven't had the tire off yet and if I did I wouldn't bugger up the rim like that. It looks to me like someone has been installing tires with a screwdriver. Did Bikes Direct send me a returned wheel? Or do they install tires with screwdrivers at the Bikes Direct warehouse?
What do you think, would I be being picky and unreasonable to make an issue about it?
On the fixed gear side I was now rewarded with a different noise (which turned out to be some stupidly loose spokes, which I should have caught during my inspection mea culpa). In the sunlight, with my specs on, I was able to see this on the rim:
Look at the edge of the rim. I haven't had the tire off yet and if I did I wouldn't bugger up the rim like that. It looks to me like someone has been installing tires with a screwdriver. Did Bikes Direct send me a returned wheel? Or do they install tires with screwdrivers at the Bikes Direct warehouse?
What do you think, would I be being picky and unreasonable to make an issue about it?
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To show that it really is set up for commuting/utility:
On the fixed gear side I was now rewarded with a different noise (which turned out to be some stupidly loose spokes, which I should have caught during my inspection mea culpa). In the sunlight, with my specs on, I was able to see this on the rim:



Look at the edge of the rim. I haven't had the tire off yet and if I did I wouldn't bugger up the rim like that. It looks to me like someone has been installing tires with a screwdriver. Did Bikes Direct send me a returned wheel? Or do they install tires with screwdrivers at the Bikes Direct warehouse?
What do you think, would I be being picky and unreasonable to make an issue about it?
On the fixed gear side I was now rewarded with a different noise (which turned out to be some stupidly loose spokes, which I should have caught during my inspection mea culpa). In the sunlight, with my specs on, I was able to see this on the rim:
Look at the edge of the rim. I haven't had the tire off yet and if I did I wouldn't bugger up the rim like that. It looks to me like someone has been installing tires with a screwdriver. Did Bikes Direct send me a returned wheel? Or do they install tires with screwdrivers at the Bikes Direct warehouse?
What do you think, would I be being picky and unreasonable to make an issue about it?
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But I'm going to let it slide and just note it as a negative on my review here. I was mainly worried about the wear on a used wheel, but I had a closer look at the hub and there were no signs of wear that I could see. I also re-tensioned the spokes and trued it; while I'm no wheel-builder I'm satisfied that it's good now.
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A couple of weeks ago Bike Island was offering the frameset for $110, and that included the fork and headset, seat clamp. It's a decent chromoly frame and fork with possibly some kind of cosmetic defect, very tempting at that price. But let's compare. Postulating that I'd use some wheels I have laying around, the cheapest acceptable build came to around $185. The BD bike has the same frameset, and wheels, and pretty good bits and pieces for $229. So apples to apples, the wheels account for $44. Sure they're heavy and my rear wheel needed some work, but they're worth $44 obviously. From that perspective, who cares about the wheels? Add to that, I'd be spending some time sourcing pieces and assembling it, a couple of hours extra at least which is worth more than the $44 by itself. So it was kind of a no-brainer decision.
I've got a front wheel, tires and a saddle languishing in my utility closet, which may be 2 or 3 pounds lighter
when I get around to it. For sure that or more when I decide what to do with the rear. These stock wheels will become spares. I'm not really worried about the weight.The short answer is that a SS that needs to be gone through completely is really more like a $350 bike.
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That's what I've got on my singlespeed right now. It makes a knocking sound once in a while (not sure what that's about...maybe one of the pawls sticking?), but it's functional. This is definitely a consumable part. The only one I've seen that people seem to love is the one from White Industries, and there goes any thought of budget again.
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Overall I have been quite impressed with how mine has held up. Had no issues after changing tires, and putting on a good freewheel and chainring (where I lowered the gear inches substantially).
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I didn't have any steel rod handy so I robbed the strut off an old cruiser fender for the front, and mounted the back with an angle bracket from the rack. They turned out pretty good in my opinion, except for one zip-tie where I got in a hurry and forgot to replace with a bolt - I'll post a better picture later since you can barely see them from the side view.
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[MENTION=227213]wphamilton[/MENTION] I saw some fenders like that on a Trek Soho i think ... i always wondered how well they would work.
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I'm thinking of getting one of these for my son to get around Manhattan with minimal fuss. He borrowed a friend's single speed this summer and liked it. Meantime, we gave him a Citibike subscription even though they won't be in his neighborhood until the spring.
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@wphamilton I saw some fenders like that on a Trek Soho i think ... i always wondered how well they would work.
The rear is simple to mount, a bracket to the brake pivot
and to the plate frame on the rack (where I got sloppy,
but the offset is because the rack isn't exactly straight)
and a plastic zip tie on the chain stay
It's plenty solid, no rattle.
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Although I'm grousing about the wheels and the weight, I don't really see anything wrong with it. On my commute this morning, one hill with really rough pavement was far smoother feeling than on my aluminum road bike, no complaints about the ride.
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Anyone know how to get the head tube decal off without marring the paint? It looks like it's under clear coat and I can't feel the edges at all. Would you take a heat gun to it?
It's not a burning issue, but it seems like the red Dawes logo detracts from the nice generic look of the frame.
It's not a burning issue, but it seems like the red Dawes logo detracts from the nice generic look of the frame.
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Anyone know how to get the head tube decal off without marring the paint? It looks like it's under clear coat and I can't feel the edges at all. Would you take a heat gun to it?
It's not a burning issue, but it seems like the red Dawes logo detracts from the nice generic look of the frame.
It's not a burning issue, but it seems like the red Dawes logo detracts from the nice generic look of the frame.
I've done it and just hit those areas with car wax; looks just fine...
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The generic look will be nice for this bike. Lots of people like generic looking bikes around here, and I like the look, too.
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I do too, even the black (I wanted orange but it was out of stock). There are no decals except that one on the head tube and the "4130" sticker on the seat tube. I haven't yet screwed up the courage to hit it with a heat gun to get the decal off.
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Update: after swapping the tires out and that saddle this weekend, it's a pound and a half lighter. I don't mean to bad-mouth the stock Kenda's since they are solid dependable tires and seem to never wear out, but they are so heavy and slow-rolling. Big difference when you put on your particular favorite tires.
I've got about 150 miles on it so far. After one week of commuting (that's only about 80 miles for me) the Dawes is exactly what I'd hoped for, with no unpleasant surprises after I got everything lined out. The replacement Shimano freewheel is silent and seems to have a higher quality of materials and construction, so I have to agree with Almost trick and advise an upgrade from stock for this bike.
I've got about 150 miles on it so far. After one week of commuting (that's only about 80 miles for me) the Dawes is exactly what I'd hoped for, with no unpleasant surprises after I got everything lined out. The replacement Shimano freewheel is silent and seems to have a higher quality of materials and construction, so I have to agree with Almost trick and advise an upgrade from stock for this bike.
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Well, I see it's a little late, but since I went to look. This frame will hold a 35 tire rear, and 38 tire front, without fenders and of course knobbies and dependent on chain length in back.






