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Old 10-19-16 | 04:20 AM
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Time for a New Lock - Which One?

I'm looking for High Security with a lower weight than some of the other lock options I've seen. So far these are the three I'm most interested in right now,

1.) Litelok (Does anyone have the weight on this one?)
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2.) Foldylock
https://seatylock.com/collections/foldylock

3.) Abus - U-Lock GRANIT X Plus 540
https://www.abus.com/eng/Mobile-Secu...NIT-X-Plus-540

Any input on one of these being preferred over the others? Are there other locks in this category I should be considering?
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Old 10-19-16 | 12:47 PM
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Right now I'm leaning towards the soon to be released "compact" version of the Foldylock, and use that along with a set of Pinhead products.
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Interesting locks if a bit expensive for some models. Sorry, but I have no experience with any on the ones you listed. Do you lock your bike up at one place every day? If so, then you might be able to leave the lock on the rack there and not have to carry it at all. That's what I do with a big chain and small U lock I got from a local hardware store for around $80 (similar to New York Fahgettaboudit Chain). Don't know about your hood, but here in East Harlem I would never lock my bike on the street. Almost all locks can be defeated by a small battery powered rotary tool.

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Basically coming down to living with no motorized vehicles, just a bike, at least for now. I'll have bags and panniers on it, so those will have to be detached and come along with me when I go in somewhere.
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I have used this Abus chain lock daily for five years and have no complaints. Compared to the locks on your list it's a bit heavier at 3 1/2 pounds, but it's cheaper and gives you more options locking up.
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Basically coming down to living with no motorized vehicles, just a bike, at least for now. I'll have bags and panniers on it, so those will have to be detached and come along with me when I go in somewhere.
If you are worried about someone stealing your panniers and trunk bag, you could always use a 1.4/1.5 metre chain that comes with some rear wheel frame locks to help secure the panniers and trunk bag to your bike.
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If you are worried about someone stealing your panniers and trunk bag, you could always use a 1.4/1.5 metre chain that comes with some rear wheel frame locks to help secure the panniers and trunk bag to your bike.
Thanks for the suggestion, and I'm sure that would be sufficient in many areas of the country, but where I live they'll end up cutting the chain or trying to rip the bags open with a knife. SOCAL is a place littered with pockets of black ghettos, white trash areas, and large swathes of Mexican barrios, and some combinations thereof throughout the entire region; basically a lot of living, breathing, piles of human waste. This is gangland country; scumville USA I'm talking about here. It's not a pleasant place to be sure. The crime rates, including violent crime and murder, are among the highest of any area in the nation.

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Old 10-20-16 | 11:45 AM
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I Own One Of these >>> Abus - U-Lock GRANIT X Plus 540
https://www.abus.com/eng/Mobile-Secu...NIT-X-Plus-540

It is Not Light but, Folding, it is compact, You can Mount the Pouch on a pair of water bottle Bosses ..

I have done this with the Bottle bosses on my Bike Friday..

It is not able to reach around some things , too far from the bike, but it reaches further than a U Lock.
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Old 10-20-16 | 12:26 PM
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Thanks for the suggestion, and I'm sure that would be sufficient in many areas of the country, but where I live they'll end up cutting the chain or trying to rip the bags open with a knife. SOCAL is a place littered with pockets of black ghettos, white trash areas, and large swathes of Mexican barrios, and some combinations thereof throughout the entire region; basically a lot of living, breathing, piles of human waste. This is gangland country; scumville USA I'm talking about here. It's not a pleasant place to be sure. The crime rates, including violent crime and murder, are among the highest of any area in the nation.

If you live near piles of human waste, then just get a throw-away box bike from Wally World and a cheap lock. Most molecules of human waste only steal bikes out of ease of opportunity. They don't want to spend too much time stealing anything. They're not like many lawyers and business elites who hold hours of long meetings about various methods of extracting more money from U.S. citizens for very little product or service in return...
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Originally Posted by AdvXtrm
Thanks for the suggestion, and I'm sure that would be sufficient in many areas of the country, but where I live they'll end up cutting the chain or trying to rip the bags open with a knife. SOCAL is a place littered with pockets of black ghettos, white trash areas, and large swathes of Mexican barrios, and some combinations thereof throughout the entire region; basically a lot of living, breathing, piles of human waste. This is gangland country; scumville USA I'm talking about here. It's not a pleasant place to be sure. The crime rates, including violent crime and murder, are among the highest of any area in the nation.
Jeebus, you must feel nervous every time you leave your bike locked up somewhere.

The reason I got a frame lock and chain was so that I could lock down my seat, but if I leave the seat alone, the chain because it is a loop chain, is long enough for me to lock my front wheel and bike to quite a few immovable objects and the frame lock takes care of securing the rear wheel.

Now in an area like yours, I would additionally use a good quality U-lock as well.
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I'm using an Abus Bordo, the combination version. I love it. It is strong, but compact. Here's a link: https://www.abus.com/eng/Mobile-Secu...rdo-Combo-6100
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get the Litelock so you can review it for us
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Originally Posted by AdvXtrm
Thanks for the suggestion, and I'm sure that would be sufficient in many areas of the country, but where I live they'll end up cutting the chain or trying to rip the bags open with a knife. SOCAL is a place littered with pockets of black ghettos, white trash areas, and large swathes of Mexican barrios, and some combinations thereof throughout the entire region; basically a lot of living, breathing, piles of human waste. This is gangland country; scumville USA I'm talking about here. It's not a pleasant place to be sure. The crime rates, including violent crime and murder, are among the highest of any area in the nation.
Now now, sounds like someone doesn't appreciate diversity!
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I'd never buy a kickstarter lock without seeing real life tests. They seem to always have the most ridiculous videos, with really lame attempts to saw, cut, or burn the lock.

The strongest locks are the heavy U locks that lock both ends of the U, instead of having one curved end that's not locked in. Your Abus lock looks good.

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"Have you ever had a bicycle stolen? Well, a new company thinks it has a funky way to combat the crime - by creating a bike lock which spews foul-smelling gas.

The "Skunklock" is a U-shaped steel bicycle lock with a pressurised, stinking gas inside.

The gas escapes in a cloud if someone attempts to cut the lock.

The company claims its "noxious chemical" is so disgusting it "induces vomit in the majority of cases."





Chemical bike lock causes vomiting to deter thieves - BBC News

Nice!
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I was going to post the Skunklock story. I wonder how well that really works.
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Originally Posted by AdvXtrm
I'm looking for High Security with a lower weight than some of the other lock options I've seen. So far these are the three I'm most interested in right now,

1.) Litelok (Does anyone have the weight on this one?)
Cycle Locks Online | Buy Bike Locks | Litelok Price | Litelok | LITELOK®

2.) Foldylock
https://seatylock.com/collections/foldylock

3.) Abus - U-Lock GRANIT X Plus 540
https://www.abus.com/eng/Mobile-Secu...NIT-X-Plus-540

Any input on one of these being preferred over the others? Are there other locks in this category I should be considering?
In my case, I feel the stakes are Too High, THE LOSS of either of my bikes would be devastating. The Threat Environment in L. A. Downtown, while certainly not as high as New York or any where near as extreme as London (my understanding is that London is now #1 for bike theft, Kicking the Big Apple off the Top of the mountain), Absolutely Requires the Strongest, Toughest, and best in hardware AND Techniques/Strategies to uuhhm ... 'Encourage' a potential Thief to 'Move Along' to something that's not such a pain to rip off.


Of the 3 locks above: The ABUS Granit X-Plus 540, Absolutely has the Best Provenance/Pedigree (Disclosure: I am somewhat of a Fanboy of ABUS U/D Locks)

I have been using two ABUS U-Locks for the past several years on the streets of Downtown, as well as surrounding communities.
... The Primary Anchoring Lock is the direct predecessor to the U-Lock you are interested in - a Granit X-Plus 54 with a 230mm shackle (Std. Size). Secondary anchoring Lock is an ABUS U mini 40 (This is a Silver rated lock, NOT the Gold rated ABUS U mini 401), unlike the Granit X-Plus 54/540. The U mini 40/401 line are NOT made in Germany.
Combined w/ the full suite of Pinheads security fasteners on the Go Faster Fuji as secondary layer.
This is the result of my own quest to 'Drop Ballast' while still retaining 'High Security' as much as possible. Coming from a double team of big 'K' New York F-U and O.G. Brute (5000 series).


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Originally Posted by AdvXtrm
I'm looking for High Security with a lower weight than some of the other lock options I've seen. So far these are the three I'm most interested in right now,

1.) Litelok (Does anyone have the weight on this one?)
Cycle Locks Online | Buy Bike Locks | Litelok Price | Litelok | LITELOK®

2.) Foldylock
https://seatylock.com/collections/foldylock

3.) Abus - U-Lock GRANIT X Plus 540
https://www.abus.com/eng/Mobile-Secu...NIT-X-Plus-540

Any input on one of these being preferred over the others? Are there other locks in this category I should be considering?
Since steel is still the best possible lock material, weight and protection level go hand in hand.

For Abus Granit X Plus I know that they have good steel and good, secure locking mechanisms, as well as lock cylinders. Not sure about other manufacturers' security levels and ratings.

I can recommend the 3) - U-lock, as well as Abus Bordo Granit X plus folding lock - easier to carry and a bit more flexible than a U-lock.

I wrote about locks and how to choose good ones here:
Bicycle locks

Here something about locking techniques:
Locking a bicycle
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