Question for 20+ mph avg commuters
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I've ridden my TT bike to work, so it's technically a commute but it's also a workout/extended detour/opportunity for saddle time. 5.8 mile segment at 26.5 still doesn't do enough to raise the total average speed over 20 once I get back into town and all the stop lights. https://www.strava.com/activities/1591118938/overview
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[MENTION=200675]chas58[/MENTION] is right. The difference between average speed and cruising speed is important. This accounts for lies, exaggerations, and mistakes. Maybe some people look at their speed readouts only when they're going their fastest, and this misleads them into thinking that this is their average speed.
20 mph average is nearly inconceivable to me. I know it's possible, but I expect it's very rare. You'd need to be pretty darned good and also have really good equipment and also be lucky enough to have very clear roads with no lights.
20 mph average is nearly inconceivable to me. I know it's possible, but I expect it's very rare. You'd need to be pretty darned good and also have really good equipment and also be lucky enough to have very clear roads with no lights.
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#53
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I got passed doing 14-15 on my commute by a guy with a high end bike in full kit, then saw him turn in to a business about 1/2 way along my route so sometimes it's about length of commute too.
I average 14.5 on my route with VERY few stops (along a MUP with overpasses, underpasses, etc) and my route is fairly flat. I feel like that is hustling for me and I find it difficult to increase my average speed on my current SS equipment. Funny thing is my speed hasn't changed since I went from a 24 speed MTB to a single speed track bike for commuting!
I average 14.5 on my route with VERY few stops (along a MUP with overpasses, underpasses, etc) and my route is fairly flat. I feel like that is hustling for me and I find it difficult to increase my average speed on my current SS equipment. Funny thing is my speed hasn't changed since I went from a 24 speed MTB to a single speed track bike for commuting!
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I average about 15mph/24km/h daily and once a year I do a max run, and this year it came in at 29km/h, thats about 18mph. it was with a backpack and a fendered bike, with empty (quite big) saddle bag. good tires.
If i were to do this on my skinny tired naked bike i might get up to 30-32km/h. but i could only do this maybe twice a month i feel.
If i were to do this on my skinny tired naked bike i might get up to 30-32km/h. but i could only do this maybe twice a month i feel.
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I've only averaged up to 16 mph on my commute from Lenonia to Manhattan (park and ride) or from Bloomfield to Manhattan (from home). There's just way too many lights and cars on my route. So 20 mph avg is a tall ask. There's also a decent hill (9% grade) from Leonia to Ft Lee that forces me to shift into a 39x26 and sometimes wish I had a 27 or 28 when I'm tired. So you ain't going to be fast on hills like that, either. About the only place that I could even pedal top gear (53x13) is on a downhill in Teaneck. But even then, there's a light a little after the bottom of that hill that I have to watch for. Probably the only real way to get 20+ mph avg might be at 2 or 3 am and blowing through red lights...
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#56
I've ridden my TT bike to work, so it's technically a commute but it's also a workout/extended detour/opportunity for saddle time. 5.8 mile segment at 26.5 still doesn't do enough to raise the total average speed over 20 once I get back into town and all the stop lights. https://www.strava.com/activities/1591118938/overview
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Realistically the only way I’m going to go faster is to get strong enough to shift gears and maintain my cadence. When riding Fixed Gear – my gear pretty much determines my commute speed (i.e. the gear I can spin at 100rpm the whole commute).
They are called Freds (BSNYC)
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Or, I don't even have a bike computer or track the commute. I just enjoy the ride.
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Good point on distance I can go pretty hard for 30 minutes but for a 90 minute commute I'm a lot slower.
Realistically the only way I’m going to go faster is to get strong enough to shift gears and maintain my cadence. When riding Fixed Gear – my gear pretty much determines my commute speed (i.e. the gear I can spin at 100rpm the whole commute).
They are called Freds (BSNYC)
Realistically the only way I’m going to go faster is to get strong enough to shift gears and maintain my cadence. When riding Fixed Gear – my gear pretty much determines my commute speed (i.e. the gear I can spin at 100rpm the whole commute).
They are called Freds (BSNYC)
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Hey, wait... what'd I do? 
I did post about passing a TT rider on a commuter bike (no video). But I posted (or at least I should've posted), TT rider could have been warming up, cooling down, recovering, getting used to a new bike .... I ride fast on my Globe Daily, but not fast enough to pass a strong rider on a TT bike, or a good road bike. I can hold onto a B-group club ride with my Globe, but only on the flat roads and only hold on, not take a pull.
Footnote: I'm not a typically rider, I'm into endurance gravel riding; like I did an unsupported, solo, 140-mile gravel ride on a fatbike ... just for fun.

I did post about passing a TT rider on a commuter bike (no video). But I posted (or at least I should've posted), TT rider could have been warming up, cooling down, recovering, getting used to a new bike .... I ride fast on my Globe Daily, but not fast enough to pass a strong rider on a TT bike, or a good road bike. I can hold onto a B-group club ride with my Globe, but only on the flat roads and only hold on, not take a pull.
Footnote: I'm not a typically rider, I'm into endurance gravel riding; like I did an unsupported, solo, 140-mile gravel ride on a fatbike ... just for fun.
No no sorry two different guys
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I've ridden my TT bike to work, so it's technically a commute but it's also a workout/extended detour/opportunity for saddle time. 5.8 mile segment at 26.5 still doesn't do enough to raise the total average speed over 20 once I get back into town and all the stop lights. https://www.strava.com/activities/1591118938/overview
My favorite commutes are when I'm going down wind. Unfortunately I head west in the evening, and that is almost always a head wind if there is any breeze. Spring can be brutal.
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See also. just enjoying the ride.
See also. just enjoying the ride.
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[MENTION=200675]chas58[/MENTION] is right. The difference between average speed and cruising speed is important. This accounts for lies, exaggerations, and mistakes. Maybe some people look at their speed readouts only when they're going their fastest, and this misleads them into thinking that this is their average speed.


My typical average speed on my commute more like 16-17 mph, this was just that one good day with the right winds, friendly lights, road bike, nice light traffic, feeling strong, not too much in my Chrome bag, ....
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that is a strong commute (well, its almost a loop, so not very direct). You are averaging well over 20mph between miles 2 and 26. Certainly the amount of congestion is going to impact someone's average time.
My favorite commutes are when I'm going down wind. Unfortunately I head west in the evening, and that is almost always a head wind if there is any breeze. Spring can be brutal.
My favorite commutes are when I'm going down wind. Unfortunately I head west in the evening, and that is almost always a head wind if there is any breeze. Spring can be brutal.
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Nevertheless, I think the jury is still out on which is worse.Actually, it was angle-of-decline and wind support was the first possibility that came to mind.




