Idiot/novice question -- please help me help myself
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Idiot/novice question -- please help me help myself
I broke my (presta) valve this morning inflating my tires for the second time in one week. I am using a Topeak Joe Blow pump and must be wiggling it too much when removing the pump? Does this happen to anyone else? How can I *not* do this? Please help me. Thanks 
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Not a dumb question at all.
By any chance, did you tighten up the nut on the presta valve stem? This is a one-way trip to tube disaster.
It should be loose, and many just throw it away.
This is my guess as to the cause of your problem.
...and welcome to Bike Forums!
By any chance, did you tighten up the nut on the presta valve stem? This is a one-way trip to tube disaster.
It should be loose, and many just throw it away.
This is my guess as to the cause of your problem.
...and welcome to Bike Forums!
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Originally Posted by eubi
Not a dumb question at all.
By any chance, did you tighten up the nut on the presta valve stem? This is a one-way trip to tube disaster.
It should be loose, and many just throw it away.
This is my guess as to the cause of your problem.
...and welcome to Bike Forums!
By any chance, did you tighten up the nut on the presta valve stem? This is a one-way trip to tube disaster.
It should be loose, and many just throw it away.
This is my guess as to the cause of your problem.
...and welcome to Bike Forums!
Thanks for the welcome. I think I loosened it first but it's possible that I didn't loosen it enough, or forgot. It was evident that I didn't have everything properly ready because it was not letting me inflate. As I was removing the pump to re-attempt I broke the valve stem. So maybe this was the problem.
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There is the little nut on the centre of the valve stem that you must undo to let air in the tube. The nut eubi was talking about is the one at the base of the valve that clamps against the rim - this should not be screwed tight. To avoid bending the valve centre pin, you must pull the pump chuck straight off the valve without wriggling it around.
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Originally Posted by AndrewP
There is the little nut on the centre of the valve stem that you must undo to let air in the tube. The nut eubi was talking about is the one at the base of the valve that clamps against the rim - this should not be screwed tight. To avoid bending the valve centre pin, you must pull the pump chuck straight off the valve without wriggling it around.
There's another nut? There was another one that I just put near the rim. I wasn't sure what the purpose of that one was other than to keep the valve from being pushed up into the rim.
It sounds like my main problem might be wriggling the pump chuck (is that what it's called?) rather than pulling it straight off.
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Originally Posted by dd622
It sounds like my main problem might be wriggling the pump chuck (is that what it's called?) rather than pulling it straight off.
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I don't know about the Topeak pump, but on some pumps you have some ability to adjust the tightness of the rubber cyclinder that the valve stem is inserted into....I don't just mean when you flip the lever to secure the pump to the stem, but even when the lever is down. I presume the pump head has a kind of "bottle cap" cover that screws on and holds the rubber cylinder in the pump head. Maybe if you loosen that bottle cap slightly, it will relax that rubber so it won't grip the stem so tightly as you're trying to remove the pump from the stem.
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I bent the little stem inside the valve by letting a 4yr old girl "help" pump my tire to the point that it wouldn't lock shut, so I'd imagine they could break pretty easy if you wrench the pump off. I now take it off by putting two fingers around the valve and pulling the pump off to avoid this experience again.
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Where did you break the valve stem? At the base? At the valve?
If it is breaking at the base of the stem, your problem may be that you are running presta in schraeder holes (too big). The tube sneaks out and eventually gets pinched. I lost a lot of tubes before I figured that out. You can fix this problem by installing valve stem adapters https://wheelsmfg.com/products.php?ca...restastemsaver .
If it is breaking at the base of the stem, your problem may be that you are running presta in schraeder holes (too big). The tube sneaks out and eventually gets pinched. I lost a lot of tubes before I figured that out. You can fix this problem by installing valve stem adapters https://wheelsmfg.com/products.php?ca...restastemsaver .
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Originally Posted by dd622
There's another nut? There was another one that I just put near the rim. I wasn't sure what the purpose of that one was other than to keep the valve from being pushed up into the rim.
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Originally Posted by Sawtooth
Where did you break the valve stem? At the base? At the valve?
If it is breaking at the base of the stem, your problem may be that you are running presta in schraeder holes (too big). The tube sneaks out and eventually gets pinched. I lost a lot of tubes before I figured that out. You can fix this problem by installing valve stem adapters https://wheelsmfg.com/products.php?ca...restastemsaver .
If it is breaking at the base of the stem, your problem may be that you are running presta in schraeder holes (too big). The tube sneaks out and eventually gets pinched. I lost a lot of tubes before I figured that out. You can fix this problem by installing valve stem adapters https://wheelsmfg.com/products.php?ca...restastemsaver .
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Originally Posted by dd622
OK. There's the little valve at the end -- I know that one must be loose to fill the tube and then you screw it back afterwards.
There's another nut? There was another one that I just put near the rim. I wasn't sure what the purpose of that one was other than to keep the valve from being pushed up into the rim.
It sounds like my main problem might be wriggling the pump chuck (is that what it's called?) rather than pulling it straight off.
There's another nut? There was another one that I just put near the rim. I wasn't sure what the purpose of that one was other than to keep the valve from being pushed up into the rim.
It sounds like my main problem might be wriggling the pump chuck (is that what it's called?) rather than pulling it straight off.
I actually prefer the smooth valve stems. My pump comes off of those much more easily.
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Originally Posted by dd622
the skinny screw part is what is breaking off.
Two things here. One is try not to push teh pump head down too much. The other is once you have flipped the lever back on the pump head to release the valve then turn your wiggling motion to a gentle twisting. Be careful though, if the valve looks like it's twisting as well then stop.
Other hint is hold the wheel so that the palm is on the tire and you have a finger either side of the valve. Hold teh pump head with the other hand and pull striaght. If possible use your body weight.





