Available only in Europe of course.....
#26
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Originally Posted by baxtefer
what's keeping the tension on that chain? EBB? sliding dropouts?
i'm sure not seeing horizontal drops on that thing.
please don't say they're relying on a magic ratio for chain tension
i'm sure not seeing horizontal drops on that thing.
please don't say they're relying on a magic ratio for chain tension
Regards,
Alan
#27
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From: Lake Placid, NY
Originally Posted by lbthomps
isn't this basically the same bike?

this one is available in the states
edit: on second look they are not so similar but have some qualities that are comparable

this one is available in the states
edit: on second look they are not so similar but have some qualities that are comparable
Regards,
Alan
#28
Originally Posted by baxtefer
what's keeping the tension on that chain? EBB? sliding dropouts?
i'm sure not seeing horizontal drops on that thing.
please don't say they're relying on a magic ratio for chain tension
i'm sure not seeing horizontal drops on that thing.
please don't say they're relying on a magic ratio for chain tension
Cannondale patented eccentric BB
#29
i don't understand why evveryone is go GA-GA over these "euro" style bikes...
go to a garge sale, buy an old 3-spd; your done....
if you want this specifically; go by an old mtb, then add fenders...
my advice; buy a crosscheck!
go to a garge sale, buy an old 3-spd; your done....
if you want this specifically; go by an old mtb, then add fenders...
my advice; buy a crosscheck!
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Originally Posted by max-a-mill
i don't understand why evveryone is go GA-GA over these "euro" style bikes...
go to a garge sale, buy an old 3-spd; your done....
if you want this specifically; go by an old mtb, then add fenders...
my advice; buy a crosscheck!
go to a garge sale, buy an old 3-spd; your done....
if you want this specifically; go by an old mtb, then add fenders...
my advice; buy a crosscheck!
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From: Lake Placid, NY
Originally Posted by Old_Fart
Oh, everybody's got a Cross-Check these days, even me!
How 'bout a Nexus 8 on that Cross Check just to be a little different?
How 'bout a Nexus 8 on that Cross Check just to be a little different?
or ...... Harris Cyclery used this concept on a Bianchi San Jose.
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Originally Posted by apw55
or ...... Harris Cyclery used this concept on a Bianchi San Jose.
#35
Originally Posted by Old_Fart
How 'bout a Nexus 8 on that Cross Check just to be a little different?
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Originally Posted by Dead Extra #2
WTF is up with the guy on the surly web-site?

Perhaps its a pun on words.
Cyclocross --> road bike turned to fast off-road bike.
Crosscheck --> normal biker turned to flaming crossdresser.
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#40
Hi,
I ride a Cannondale 50/50 w/ a sprung Brooks Champion saddle, front disc avid bb7, nitto moustache bars
Schmidt dyno hub front and rear lights, bell, regular pannier and a suit bag pannier strapped to a Jannd expidition rack. Bike must be close to 50lbs when fully loaded. I put a set of Conti town and counrty's on it. It is the Lincoln town car of bikes! While it is haevy as all get out it is a commuter and the bike feels as if I could ride it anywhere. It does have the eccentric bb. I swapped the front ring for a 38 insted of the 32 it came with. Before I had it all tricked out I rode some trails with it and it perfomred well. It is an awsome winter bike and I plan to get some studded nokians this fall. I ride an old Trek TX 500 from may to Nov. then the c'dale from Nov.to April. No complaints. The nice by product is that the Trek feels like it is made of paper when I first get on it! I ain't no weight weenie!
I ride a Cannondale 50/50 w/ a sprung Brooks Champion saddle, front disc avid bb7, nitto moustache bars
Schmidt dyno hub front and rear lights, bell, regular pannier and a suit bag pannier strapped to a Jannd expidition rack. Bike must be close to 50lbs when fully loaded. I put a set of Conti town and counrty's on it. It is the Lincoln town car of bikes! While it is haevy as all get out it is a commuter and the bike feels as if I could ride it anywhere. It does have the eccentric bb. I swapped the front ring for a 38 insted of the 32 it came with. Before I had it all tricked out I rode some trails with it and it perfomred well. It is an awsome winter bike and I plan to get some studded nokians this fall. I ride an old Trek TX 500 from may to Nov. then the c'dale from Nov.to April. No complaints. The nice by product is that the Trek feels like it is made of paper when I first get on it! I ain't no weight weenie!
#41
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DE#2
Did you actually talk to Bonthrond or just veiw their website? The reason I ask is that I talked to them a couple of years ago about importing a cannondale bike. They told me they couldn't ship cdale back to the USA. Cdale wouldn't allow it. Maybe times have changed. I hope so. I would love to have the Vintage Nexus Headshock. Let us know what they say.
For all of you guys thinking the 50/50 and the street or the same you need to look at the frame geometry charts. You will see the 50/50 is more mtb geometry and the street is more road geometry. Not dishing the 50/50 but I prefer road geometry on a city bike. It gets the bottom bracket height lower which lowers seat height and makes it easier to get a taller handlebar height which makes for a more upright comfy seating position. Which is what city bikes are alll about.
Here is a link for the Vintage Nexus headshock. Brooks saddle, leather grips, headshock, EBB, dynamo, ETC cool https://gb.cannondale.com/bikes/06/ce/model-6SS1.html
Here is a link to show disc brakes on a nexus hub. Something I wish Shimano would offer stateside. https://gb.cannondale.com/bikes/06/ce/model-6BS1.html
Did you actually talk to Bonthrond or just veiw their website? The reason I ask is that I talked to them a couple of years ago about importing a cannondale bike. They told me they couldn't ship cdale back to the USA. Cdale wouldn't allow it. Maybe times have changed. I hope so. I would love to have the Vintage Nexus Headshock. Let us know what they say.
For all of you guys thinking the 50/50 and the street or the same you need to look at the frame geometry charts. You will see the 50/50 is more mtb geometry and the street is more road geometry. Not dishing the 50/50 but I prefer road geometry on a city bike. It gets the bottom bracket height lower which lowers seat height and makes it easier to get a taller handlebar height which makes for a more upright comfy seating position. Which is what city bikes are alll about.
Here is a link for the Vintage Nexus headshock. Brooks saddle, leather grips, headshock, EBB, dynamo, ETC cool https://gb.cannondale.com/bikes/06/ce/model-6SS1.html
Here is a link to show disc brakes on a nexus hub. Something I wish Shimano would offer stateside. https://gb.cannondale.com/bikes/06/ce/model-6BS1.html
#42
The only way these companies will start offering those bikes is when demand is up, correct? I surmise that if enough people organize(letter writting campaign, "real" petitions, etc.) to show that there is enough demand to justify brigning these kinds of bike into the market, maybe they will change thier tune faster than if we just let our wallets speak over a period of time....
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Originally Posted by max-a-mill
i don't understand why evveryone is go GA-GA over these "euro" style bikes...
go to a garge sale, buy an old 3-spd; your done....
if you want this specifically; go by an old mtb, then add fenders...
my advice; buy a crosscheck!
go to a garge sale, buy an old 3-spd; your done....
if you want this specifically; go by an old mtb, then add fenders...
my advice; buy a crosscheck!
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Originally Posted by fender1
Hi,
I ride a Cannondale 50/50 w/ a sprung Brooks.....
I ride a Cannondale 50/50 w/ a sprung Brooks.....
Thanks for the info fender.
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Originally Posted by carlton
DE#2
Did you actually talk to Bonthrond or just veiw their website? [/url]
Did you actually talk to Bonthrond or just veiw their website? [/url]
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Originally Posted by huhenio
Or a beach cruiser.
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QUOTE=Dead Extra #
2No, I have not actually talked with them. I do like the bike but The price is a little rough. If I spend that much I'd rather get a Koga Miyata. This one has the the Rohloff 14 speed AND a chain guard.
The koga with rohloff would be very nice. At $3200 I don't think I can afford it. To bad Cdale doesn't sell the Nexus street here. It would probably be around $1100 on the headshock version. You might try to call bonthrone they might ship stateside now. I would think the bike you pictured would be less than 1500 if shipping costs were reasonable.
2No, I have not actually talked with them. I do like the bike but The price is a little rough. If I spend that much I'd rather get a Koga Miyata. This one has the the Rohloff 14 speed AND a chain guard.
The koga with rohloff would be very nice. At $3200 I don't think I can afford it. To bad Cdale doesn't sell the Nexus street here. It would probably be around $1100 on the headshock version. You might try to call bonthrone they might ship stateside now. I would think the bike you pictured would be less than 1500 if shipping costs were reasonable.
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Originally Posted by Dead Extra #2
No, I have not actually talked with them. I do like the bike but The price is a little rough. If I spend that much I'd rather get a Koga Miyata. This one has the the Rohloff 14 speed AND a chain guard.



There was another really popular city bike brand "Legnano"...Not much info on the web though. That 'dale is cool, but it still strikes me more like a city bike made from a mountain bike....not a purpose built city bike geometry.
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Originally Posted by carlton
QUOTE=Dead Extra #
2No, I have not actually talked with them. I do like the bike but The price is a little rough. If I spend that much I'd rather get a Koga Miyata. This one has the the Rohloff 14 speed AND a chain guard.
The koga with rohloff would be very nice. At $3200 I don't think I can afford it. To bad Cdale doesn't sell the Nexus street here. It would probably be around $1100 on the headshock version. You might try to call bonthrone they might ship stateside now. I would think the bike you pictured would be less than 1500 if shipping costs were reasonable.
2No, I have not actually talked with them. I do like the bike but The price is a little rough. If I spend that much I'd rather get a Koga Miyata. This one has the the Rohloff 14 speed AND a chain guard.
The koga with rohloff would be very nice. At $3200 I don't think I can afford it. To bad Cdale doesn't sell the Nexus street here. It would probably be around $1100 on the headshock version. You might try to call bonthrone they might ship stateside now. I would think the bike you pictured would be less than 1500 if shipping costs were reasonable.
I could have missed something, but I believe that currently Bonethrone’s cheapest internal hub Cannondale is the Street 700 at 799 Pounds. Using Yahoo’s currency converter, that converts to over $1,500 without shipping. I’ve also looked into having a vintage bike shipped from the U.K. and have generally been quoted prices in the $250 - $300 range (by individuals, not shops). IMO, that's a lot for an $1100 bicycle.
chicbicyclist is on the right track. We need to get Cannondale to sell them here.
Regards,
Alan
#50
Looks like it has all the components for a nice commuter. It doesn't seem to have geometry or features that you couldn't easily put together with a mountain bike and some after-market goodies.
Still, it has mountain bike geometry which I do not think is optimal for distance riding. Single position handlebars = numb hands/fingers.
Still, it has mountain bike geometry which I do not think is optimal for distance riding. Single position handlebars = numb hands/fingers.






