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GV27 10-09-08 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by recumelectric (Post 6998609)
Ok, guys! First, I don't have the camera and scanner to do this. If I did, I'd ask e v e r y o n e to post their legs.

I'll show you mine if you show me yours! TTIWWOP!


Second, I'm pretty sure that quite a few of you sculpted gods and goddesses would be diss'ing me. I'm just happy that someone was visually stimulated.
I seriously doubt that!

Yeah, all my wife's friends are always commenting on my legs. Even the lesbian mom in our Cub Scout pack wanted to give my calves a slap. I felt terribly objectified, but I let her! ;)

uke 10-09-08 06:33 PM

Lady, I'm still waiting for some leg comments. I've already gotten the Lance comment, so maybe it's just a matter of time...

Jtgyk 10-09-08 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by Mr_Christopher (Post 7635302)
Do you guys think this jump suit makes me look fat?

http://digitalcypher.com/random/fat-elvis.jpg

GGGGAAAAAAAAAH!!!!

Great now I gotta go Clorox my eyes! Yeeesh! Male ********. :twitchy:

Cyclaholic 10-09-08 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by Mr_Christopher (Post 7635302)
Do you guys think this jump suit makes me look fat?

http://digitalcypher.com/random/fat-elvis.jpg

:eek:

Oh how I wish I could un-see that!

d2create 10-09-08 09:04 PM

Camel toe!

Nota 10-09-08 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by SirGrant (Post 7000373)
... But the second they are drunk.....

"...and the roofie starts kicking in..."

Nota 10-09-08 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by Mr_Christopher (Post 7635302)
Do you guys think this jump suit makes me look fat?

http://digitalcypher.com/random/fat-elvis.jpg

"Does this condom make me look fat?"

recumelectric 10-10-08 04:06 AM


Originally Posted by Jtgyk (Post 7635759)
GGGGAAAAAAAAAH!!!!

Great now I gotta go Clorox my eyes! Yeeesh! Male ********. :twitchy:

I believe that's the first time I've seen a camel toe on a man.

recumelectric 10-10-08 04:10 AM


Originally Posted by uke (Post 7635726)
Lady, I'm still waiting for some leg comments. I've already gotten the Lance comment, so maybe it's just a matter of time...

I'm pretty wimped about the legs right now, since my knees are giving me trouble that has led me into physical therapy. It's actually a good thing, because I learned that I don't actually have arthritis. It's all a muscular support issue that the PT's have good tricks to correct. If 'd have known, I'd have been in about 20 years ago.

...And the PT did kind of compliment my legs today. He said that I had nice definition in all the muscle groups. :)

...But they did some things to me that really made my quads sore.

på beløb 10-10-08 04:37 AM


Originally Posted by one_beatnik (Post 6999065)
At 50+ years old, I would be thrilled if ANYONE (of the opposite sex) noticed something positive about my body. I'ts been awhile, well except when the construction workers scream at my out their truck window...I think I need to regrow my mustache!

You too? I get the refuse collectors blowing kisses at me, and rather seedy looking types taking photographs.

recumelectric 10-10-08 05:00 AM


Originally Posted by på beløb (Post 7637785)
You too? I get the refuse collectors blowing kisses at me, and rather seedy looking types taking photographs.

You gotta take it where you can get it! :thumb: I know I do.

dalmore 10-10-08 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by recumelectric (Post 7637755)
I'm pretty wimped about the legs right now, since my knees are giving me trouble that has led me into physical therapy. It's actually a good thing, because I learned that I don't actually have arthritis. It's all a muscular support issue that the PT's have good tricks to correct. If 'd have known, I'd have been in about 20 years ago.

...And the PT did kind of compliment my legs today. He said that I had nice definition in all the muscle groups. :)

...But they did some things to me that really made my quads sore.

I find it amazing how fast the PT's can isolate and infuriate a muscle group! Hope your experience with PT turns out as good as all mine have over the years.

recumelectric 10-10-08 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by dalmore (Post 7637880)
I find it amazing how fast the PT's can isolate and infuriate a muscle group! Hope your experience with PT turns out as good as all mine have over the years.

Yeah, that electrical stimulus thing was new to me. What they can do these days is kind of amazing.

lil brown bat 10-10-08 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by SirGrant (Post 7000373)
mmm it feels great to be sexually harassed over your legs

If it feels great, then it ain't sexual harassment. This is a fun thread and all, but I think it would be better if everyone refrained from using the term "sexual harassment" to refer to any behavior that the recipient enjoys.

DataJunkie 10-10-08 07:11 AM

More like flirting.

jgrendel 10-10-08 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by dalmore (Post 7637880)
I find it amazing how fast the PT's can isolate and infuriate a muscle group! Hope your experience with PT turns out as good as all mine have over the years.

Apropos of this, and in the interest of keeping this hijack going, I love PT. I've done it for a chronic knee problem and a dislocated shoulder. It's the shiz. You show up, they give you strange and difficult exercises to do, you get tired, you leave. Nice structured play time that makes you stronger. Yes please!

If only I could motivate to do it all by my self.

dcrowell 10-10-08 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by recumelectric (Post 7637893)
Yeah, that electrical stimulus thing was new to me. What they can do these days is kind of amazing.

... so much room for a (bad) joke ...

Glad you enjoy the attention.

I've seen a few people this week that I haven't seen in a few months. Their reaction to my weight loss is cool. It makes me feel good. Too bad I drove today.

chipcom 10-10-08 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by lil brown bat (Post 7638179)
If it feels great, then it ain't sexual harassment. This is a fun thread and all, but I think it would be better if everyone refrained from using the term "sexual harassment" to refer to any behavior that the recipient enjoys.

This could be fun to discuss. So if I AM sexually harassing you, but you are enjoying it, I'm not really sexually harassing you? For example, if I call you a blonde bimbo blitch and suggest that you do some lewd act on me or on barn yard animals, if you think it's funny and that I am just joking around, or lord forbid agree with me, it's not sexual harassment?

I think this is a valid question in the context of BF. I often say things in BF that maybe could be considered offensive or as sexual harassment, but the people who I am addressing are usually friends and acquaintances who kinda know I am just cutting up for comedy value (whether it is actually funny or not is beside the point :p). But because they assume I am not being serious, does that mean that I am not serious and just using the veil of humor as a cover to let my a-hole, potential serial-killer side run rampant and laugh at how gullible you all are?

* Disclaimer - I'm not a serial-killer (though I am probably an a-hole) and I don't think you are all gullible. Well except for DataJunkie, he is kinda special. ;)

GV27 10-10-08 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by lil brown bat (Post 7638179)
If it feels great, then it ain't sexual harassment. This is a fun thread and all, but I think it would be better if everyone refrained from using the term "sexual harassment" to refer to any behavior that the recipient enjoys.

Actually most companies' sexual harassment policies would say it doesn't matter. Stupid, but true. All those policies don't require the recipient to be offended, nor for it to be repeated (which I think should be part of it in most cases).

I had a colleague and good friend that got fired at a previous job and me almost with him. He was doing some work at a remote office and the folks there were saying they thought that another colleague of ours was gay. So he asks this guy (they were friends - still are though it was rocky for awhile there) "what's the deal with that?". And the response was "man, F those guys". And that was the end of that. Somebody overheard it and reported it. The guy got fired and I only avoided being fired (for not reporting this heinous harassment) because we were the only two network guys at the company and they couldn't fire both of us at the same time.

I'm so friggin' glad I don't work for that POS company any more.

Chris

DataJunkie 10-10-08 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by chipcom (Post 7638256)
This could be fun to discuss. So if I AM sexually harassing you, but you are enjoying it, I'm not really sexually harassing you? For example, if I call you a blonde bimbo blitch and suggest that you do some lewd act on me or on barn yard animals, if you think it's funny and that I am just joking around, or lord forbid agree with me, it's not sexual harassment?

I think this is a valid question in the context of BF. I often say things in BF that maybe could be considered offensive or as sexual harassment, but the people who I am addressing are usually friends and acquaintances who kinda know I am just cutting up for comedy value (whether it is actually funny or not is beside the point :p). But because they assume I am not being serious, does that mean that I am not serious and just using the veil of humor as a cover to let my a-hole, potential serial-killer side run rampant and laugh at how gullible you all are?

* Disclaimer - I'm not a serial-killer (though I am probably an a-hole) and I don't think you are all gullible. Well except for DataJunkie, he is kinda special. ;)




Watch out or I may just email you a 1024x768 picture of my arse.

lil brown bat 10-10-08 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by chipcom (Post 7638256)
This could be fun to discuss. So if I AM sexually harassing you, but you are enjoying it, I'm not really sexually harassing you? For example, if I call you a blonde bimbo blitch and suggest that you do some lewd act on me or on barn yard animals, if you think it's funny and that I am just joking around, or lord forbid agree with me, it's not sexual harassment?

That is correct. However, as in a workplace, it's prudent to also think about folks who overhear you and not just those that you're addressing directly. If another person comes into my cube and holds a detailed conversation with my cubemate about how they're going to swap bodily fluids, how I feel about the conversation is somewhat at issue -- it affects my workplace even though I'm not being addressed directly.

Now, of course BF isn't a workplace, and people are here voluntarily, so there are some differences. However, remember too that sexual harassment didn't start out as, and isn't exclusively, a legal definition. An unwelcome advance to a co-worker was sexual harassment before there was a law making it illegal in the workplace; likewise, in an internet forum such as BikeForums, there's still such a thing as sexual harassment, despite the fact that it's rarely (if ever) legally actionable.

Another downside of the exclusive focus on legal definitions is the fact that people are less able (willing?) to recognize plain old-fashioned objectionable behavior for what it is, simply because the behavior is within the bounds of what's legally allowed. It isn't illegal in the United States to walk down the street and refer to some random stranger using a derogatory racial or sexual epithet. It is crude, crass, antisocial and objectionable, but if anyone says so, immediately half a dozen people bellow about the crude, crass, antisocial, objectionable person's legal rights to free speech. It erodes civility. When we care only about what's legal and have no concern for what is right, that's what creates a society where you need to have things like sexual harassment laws, rather than being able to count on people to behave in a civilized manner.

noteon 10-10-08 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by SirGrant (Post 7000373)
mmm it feels great to be sexually harassed over your legs ;) I'm a college guy and I shave my legs for swimming and cycling. I'll admit at parties the drunk girls LOVE them. They are always like "oh, they are so smooth way smoother then mine" and they like to touch them :D

It's weird though when girls are sober they don't show any interest and sometimes say they don't like it. But the second they are drunk the truth comes out.

If the drunken behavior stops at touching legs, the truth isn't what you think it is. :)

Mr_Christopher 10-10-08 09:04 AM

There are two types of harassment in the workplace. One is based on unwanted attention, the other has to do with offering rewards (financial, etc) for doing something you'd rathr not do (have sex and I'll promote you).

Key here is the attention was not unwanted, that makes it flirting and not harassment. The supervisor is taking a huge risk though, asking someone who works under him to pose in a certain manner so he can look at their body is not wise.

And I'm no prude, I admire women in my office all the time, i'm just more clever about it :-)

bizzz111 10-10-08 09:24 AM

reminder, it's only sexual harassment if the dude is ugly:


http://www.transbuddha.com/mediaHolder.php?id=1394

chipcom 10-10-08 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by lil brown bat (Post 7638341)
Now, of course BF isn't a workplace, and people are here voluntarily

WHAT? You mean I can just leave at any time? Where would I go? :twitchy:


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