are the seat stay and chain stay one singular tube, like the old and well i guess new SE pk ripper bmx frames, see how the chain and seat stays are one tube
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...r-Looptail.jpg

No need to apologize. I really appreciate the info on the rack and the pannier setup. Good panniers are the way to go and I've heard nothing but great things about Racktime or Ortileb panniers, particularly their mounting systems.

Ride safe, have fun and thank you for the info. :)

Hi All- Following up on my puzzle about how to mount a traditional rack (like the Topeak SuperTourist DX) and fenders to a bike without eyelets on the dropouts, the tech at Kona responded with this advice:

"For a rack or fenders a clampset or extension off the dropout bolts will the way to go. On bikes with both a rack and fender I like to mount the fender to the rack and do away with the duplicate stays. That only works though if you don’t ever want to remove the rack and leave the fenders."

However, I don't know what he means by all of this. Is he saying that something like the Axiom Streamliner (disc) rack should work, or is he recommending some separate piece like the boomerang-shaped piece on the Tubus QR adapter? Any help, and especially photos, would be greatly appreciated.

Quake, I think by "clampset", the Kona tech means something of a P-clamp solution on the seat-stays. As for "extension off the dropout bolts", I think he's thinking of a bracket like the one used for the Axiom Streamliner Road DLX rack.

No matter which way you go, I'm sure you can use the same eyelets for both rack and fenders. My Specialized only has one set of eyelets in the back and they hold my SKS fenders and cheap Wal-Mart rack wonderfully.

However you go about it, The Topeak SuperTourist racks are pretty nice and real fenders are the only way to go in my opinion. Let those DIY skills lose and make it happen. :)

Thanks for the encouragement. I'm not particularly handy, but I'm willing to try this out. If you look at the three bolts pictured on the rear hub area in this photo, which would be the one to which I would attach the "extender" piece? Notice the big ol' disc brake thing on the other side of the hub.

http://files.konart.net/2011/hires/dr_fine.jpg (you can zoom in on the rear)

Here is the Tubus QR extender, but it seems to be designed for a very thin QR axle, which I can't use on my bike because it has the Alfine internal hub.

http://www.probikekit.com/iframe.php?code=B0064 (click on the small photo to zoom)

Thanks!

QuakerProf, I was perusing some of the Alfine technical docs, and this one indicates that you can mount a rack straight to the Alfine axle. So either the Axiom streamliner or the Tubus extender will work, although you might have to drill out the mounting eyelet on the rack to get it to fit over your axle. The downside to mounting a rack directly to the axle is that it'll be a pain whenever you need to remove the rear wheel, although I hear that this is already a pain when dealing with IGHs. Also, this setup wouldn't work with the Topeak Supertourist DX, which you mentioned earlier, on account of the bolt wells being too deep and narrow to accept the securing bolts for the Alfine:
http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/y...rackmount1.jpghttp://i787.photobucket.com/albums/y...rackmount2.jpg

I think that when the Kona rep mentioned "dropout bolts", he was referring to the two upper bolts which secure the sliding dropout to the frame. And, if you want to wait on the rack issue, I'll tell you whether or not it works. I just ordered a new frame with the same dropout setup, an Alfine hub, and a Tubus rack with an extender (to get around my disc brake) that I'm planning to mount to the sliding dropout bolts. Between shipping and build time, it should be ready in a couple of weeks, after which I'll post pics here.

Hello,

This is my commuting bike, a 2001 Nuzzi Jungler. Just changed nearly everything and upgraded to 24 speed. Added mud flaps and magicshine light. Tyres are Continental Double Fighther II. My daily commute consists of 9km each way to and back from work.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k4...r13/nuzzi1.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k4...r13/Nuzzi2.jpg

Robert

Like I said (but not well enough), the dropouts are cast and they are brazed to the seat stay and chain stay.

It is not a loop tail.

Sorry i missread what you posted earlier ignore me, im an idiot. I just got my hopes up that it was one, i want a loop tail MTB frame so bad.

Fell once in front of like 100 people at school so i decided i should invest in a pair of studded tires :lol:

Heres how my dew drop is currently looking. Perhaps you've even seen me biking it around downtown Edmonton

http://imgur.com/YPDcEs.jpg

http://imgur.com/zUq5Cs.jpg

on a side note, what do you snowy city people wear for face protection in the winter? I cant wear my sunglasses because they fog up super quick, but its quite cold without them

I use diving goggle anti fog spray it works pretty good, cleans the lenses pretty good too.

Got the giant all tuned, took it for a spin today it rides really nice, gonna have to get used to the nice hum of the knobbies. I think im gonna leave the mismatching bar tape it kinda grown on me.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...1-18161225.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...1-18161243.jpg
And a pic of both my drop bar MTB's
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...1-18163144.jpg

That's pretty sweet. Very reminiscent of Sixty Fiver's badass rig, if I may be so bold as to make the comparison.

badass... :)

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...1-18161225.jpg

Hey thanks guys im looking forward to riding it

Yep, and no more pics please, because now you have me thinking of a new winter bike project. Stop it!



;)

I promise the only other pic of it ill post is if we ever get any of the damn white stuff, i swear boise is the worst place to live if you want any kind of dependable weather(doesn't matter time of year either) Im sure corkscrew will agree. What you gotta do here is hope something wont happen than it will, so i hope it doesn't snow:)

I remember when the drop bar mtb was considered to be an oddity and now they seem to be popping up everywhere.. you really can't beat the more aero and efficient position on a bike that can blow through the roughest of terrain and let me tell you, winter roads count as being rough terrain.

My commute time yesterday was no different than when the roads were clear and dry although I was a little more tired afterwards... winter riding is a lot of work.

I like them for doing tours in the mountains, on forestry service roads, you get the comfort of multiple hand positions and like you said aero and position, and really if your going over or through anything other that light gravel or packed dirt, you cant beat the stability of over 2" of knobs under ya:)

Redline Conquest Team
In full rain/commute regalia. Best fitting bike I've had. Just feels so good now.

A rear rack is next as I dislike my seatpost mounted rack w/trunkbag.

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That's awesome mattg72, I love that your ride has a room all to itself (and the kitty)!

Thanks stoutdog, the bike really rides fantastic. Once worn in, the breaks are rock solid and the gears shift like butter. For my ride, the 5-speed is totally fine. All I changed were the grips and pedals, and then I added a kick stand and a rack for my panniers. Little Miles only has 3 legs and desperately wanted to be in all the shots.

I really like that bike alot for so many reason including simplicity on many levels. It seems like it has been cat inspected was it cat approved? Miles is quite photogenic trying to steal the Torker's glory. =)

I've been looking for a winter beater for couple months now. I was contemplating getting a KHS Urban Soul, but just couldn't justify 400 bucks for a bike I was going to ride through the slop all winter. I was searching Craigslist multiple times a day looking for something that would work. All the options were either too pricey or too crappy or both. This puppy finally popped up. I was the first to write (of many according to her) and popped by after work and scored this for 50 bucks! In Toronto, that is a stone cold steal. Everything was in working order, with the exception of the brake pads :) 10-15 years of sitting will do that.
I love the triple triangle frames on these old GTs.
I swapped the stem, the bars, added some bar ends from an earlier build, switched the front brake to a v-brake. Replaced the pads on the canti rear brake. Added some fenders and an aluminum rack. I removed the front derailleur and am currently running 1x6. The rear der. is doing well so far, but I might swap it for something newer that doesn't have as much trouble staying put. I still get ghost shifts so matter how much I tweak it. Any thoughts on what I could use as a good rear derailleur for something of this vintage? It's a 6 sp. freewheel system. I was wondering about using a friction shifter up front and forgetting SIS altogether....any reason not to?

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I say go for the friction shifter, also you need to get some p clips to get that rack a little more level your likely to have problems with bags staying put with it like that.

Is the derailleur hanger straight? Not guaranteeing that it'll fix the ghost shifting, but if you haven't checked yet, it's worth a look.

Yeah it's straight, I think it might be a matter of new cabling actually. Just figured if I was going to swap the cables I could probably get a new 6sp. friction derailleur for pretty cheap and swap that too.


Definitely. I can't stand the way this looks aesthetically either.

If thats the axiom journey i have the same one, im starting to think it was meant for 700c with how tall it is, I have been thinking about chopping the stays a little and drilling a new hole to bring it down some. Its a damn fine rack just a little tall, and the upper stays dont have all the much adjustment to them (up and down at least)
Sweet looking bike, i also have always liked GT's triple triangle.

this was a test commute to a possible new job I might be taking, on a beater Giant MTB someone gave me a year or so ago. The commute is basically 6 miles each way on a paved and unpaved bike trail. Doesnt really get much better than that!

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_bYNfObzpWyA/TO...0/CIMG4525.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_bYNfObzpWyA/TO...6/CIMG4529.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_bYNfObzpWyA/TO...0/CIMG4530.JPG

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_bYNfObzpWyA/TO...0/CIMG4533.JPG