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Originally Posted by Ridefreemc
(Post 17852473)
That rear rack looks rather wide. Is that correct? Almost like a Porteur style from rack, but that I've only seen for the front. VO Porteur Rack - Racks & Decaleurs - Accessories
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That at looks great! This is obviously a personal preference thing, but if you ever have hand or wrist discomfort you might want to try angling those bars down a little past horizontal. For me it's made a big difference.
Originally Posted by Ridefreemc
(Post 17873216)
After adding Nitto Albatrosses:
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Originally Posted by PennyTheDog
(Post 17873534)
That at looks great! This is obviously a personal preference thing, but if you ever have hand or wrist discomfort you might want to try angling those bars down a little past horizontal. For me it's made a big difference.
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Originally Posted by Ridefreemc
(Post 17872952)
Edit: I have seen a rack that looked almost identical, but it had a lower horizontal bar that looked perfect for strapping front panniers on and keeping that weight low. Little more flexible on that one, but not sure the make. That said, my rear panniers technically mount up to this one. But if anything is loaded on top it's not ideal. |
Originally Posted by AlTheKiller
(Post 17874378)
Yes, yes it is. I enjoy it. Definitely different dynamic than the rear rack/panniers I'm used to. I find the Panniers to be more convenient for loading/unloading/carrying more. I like the weight over the front wheel on this bike, though. A nice, roomy porteur bag would probably make this front rack ideal, but they're not cheap.
Edit: I have seen a rack that looked almost identical, but it had a lower horizontal bar that looked perfect for strapping front panniers on and keeping that weight low. Little more flexible on that one, but not sure the make. That said, my rear panniers technically mount up to this one. But if anything is loaded on top it's not ideal. |
Originally Posted by Ridefreemc
(Post 17874793)
I have the smaller front VO rack and had it mounted up for awhile. I had a hammock and small sleeping bag on one day and found that it affected my steering more than I had expected (couldn't go no-handed). How have you found the rack and steering with any weight on it?
Of course trail and geometry have a lot to do with how different loads affect handling. |
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My rebuilt U08 holding up the water bottles and flanked by the exquisite file cabinet and garbage can in this palace of a building.
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Originally Posted by AlTheKiller
(Post 17875591)
Made my steering more stable actually, but responds more slowly. I can ride no handed even easier now. I usually find adding rear weight makes the front less stable. My cx bike with rear rack is nearly impossible to ride no handed.
Of course trail and geometry have a lot to do with how different loads affect handling. |
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Hi Guys! It's me again!
Today I bring to you another handmade frameset by Igor Miyamura: Galadriel (A.K.A. "Só no Girinho"). http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=456872 http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=456874 It's my Touring Bike, but sometimes I use it to commute as well. The first picture was taken at "Pico Monte Negro" (Black Mount Peak) in São José dos Ausentes - Rio Grande do Sul/BR. The second was at Canoas Park, also in Rio Grande do Sul. There are some canyons on north of Rio Grande do Sul. I went there last july, in the middle of brazilian's winter. Not so cold as in United States, but quite freezing for us brazilians, hehehe! The bike's earlier name was "Só no Girinho". It's a kind of encouraging expression here, when you're facing a long and steep slope and have to choose the biggest cog and the smallest chainring, keeping a confortable pace in order to beat the slope. No rush, just a confortable and steady pace, you know... We use to say "É isso aí...vai só no girinho! Você consegue!" (That's it...go "só no girinho"! You can make it!) BTW, there is a expression like this in english? It would be nice to know if I can "translate" the expression...it's a kind of "mantra" to me! See ya, buddies! |
Originally Posted by fabiotux
(Post 17878492)
The bike's earlier name was "Só no Girinho". It's a kind of encouraging expression here, when you're facing a long and steep slope and have to choose the biggest cog and the smallest chainring, keeping a confortable pace in order to beat the slope. No rush, just a confortable and steady pace, you know...
We use to say "É isso aí...vai só no girinho! Você consegue!" (That's it...go "só no girinho"! You can make it!) BTW, there is a expression like this in english? It would be nice to know if I can "translate" the expression...it's a kind of "mantra" to me! There are expressions with similar intent in English, for instance "Keep it up!" or "Slow and Steady", but I have no idea if they are close to a translation. Here in San Diego I have a lot of exposure to Spanish, but Portuguese is a mystery to me. I assume "no" is still like Spanish and English "no", but what are the other words? Is it maybe like "Don't give up!" or "Don't stop" or "Don't quit" (I tried Google Translate, and apparently it doesn't know what 'girinho' is, it came back "only in girinho") |
Shoot, now I want to go back to Brazil.
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Thanks for the compliment, [MENTION=252435]RubeRad[/MENTION]!
About the expression, if you guys don't mind, let me try to break it word by word... "Girinho" is a diminutive form of the word "Giro". "Giro" is a 1st person of simple present of the verb "Girar". "Girar" in english means "to spin". Okay, so we find out that "Girinho" is something like "Little Spin". "Só no" means something like "Just in a". Notice that the word "Just" have the same meaning as the Nike's slogan: Just Do It" which in portuguese means "Apenas faça"). "Só no Girinho" would be something like "Just in a Little Spin" (and it doesn't make any sense in english, I suppose! So I thought that you might have some expression like this one...or not... After a long time thinking on it, I think there's no way to translate it, nor literally neither with some idioms of yours... Anyway, that's the dificulty (and the beauty, IMHO) of learn a foreing language, specially when you're trying to find an equivalent idiom in your mother tongue. Sorry for this nonsense kind of discussion...LoL It's not a philological forum...but I do appreciate try to understand (and be understood) better in english...I hope you don't mind... Thanks guys!
Originally Posted by RubeRad
(Post 17878594)
Another beautiful bike in Brazil!
There are expressions with similar intent in English, for instance "Keep it up!" or "Slow and Steady", but I have no idea if they are close to a translation. Here in San Diego I have a lot of exposure to Spanish, but Portuguese is a mystery to me. I assume "no" is still like Spanish and English "no", but what are the other words? Is it maybe like "Don't give up!" or "Don't stop" or "Don't quit" (I tried Google Translate, and apparently it doesn't know what 'girinho' is, it came back "only in girinho") |
Wow, How Nice! So you've been in Brazil [MENTION=25448]bigbenaugust[/MENTION]...
Did you like it? Have you learned a little bit of our portuguese?
Originally Posted by bigbenaugust
(Post 17878705)
Shoot, now I want to go back to Brazil.
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Originally Posted by fabiotux
(Post 17878749)
Wow, How Nice! So you've been in Brazil [MENTION=25448]bigbenaugust[/MENTION]...
Did you like it? Have you learned a little bit of our portuguese? |
I'm happy that you enjoyed your stay among us, Ben!
You all are most welcome to visit our big country, specially if you come here to bike travelling...there's a lot of wonderful places to visit. ahahahaa! Barra Forte is an ICON here! The most famous popular bicycle in Brazil. In 70's/80's, every worker would like to have one... http://mtbbrasilia.com.br/wp-content...forte-luxo.jpg I don't like that much "brigadeiros", but "Pão de Queijo" is fantastic! I definitely love it!
Originally Posted by bigbenaugust
(Post 17878781)
Totally OT, but yes on all counts. :) Mrs. A and I spent a few days on Copacabana and in Rio and then Foz do Iguacu, and then a week in Fortaleza, where she has family. This was back in '09. I wish I could have crammed a Barraforte in a suitcase, just for fun... along with the suitcase full of brigadeiro and the one full of pao de queijo... what a trip, what great people, what a country.
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Originally Posted by fabiotux
(Post 17878492)
Hi Guys! It's me again!
Today I bring to you another handmade frameset by Igor Miyamura: Galadriel (A.K.A. "Só no Girinho"). |
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These ones are "Barra Circular", manufactured by Monark.
Barra Forte was manufactured by Caloi. Both were tough...hahahaha! ;) Pretty sweet for commuting on flat roads...but please, do not try to use it there on San Francisco...hahahaha!
Originally Posted by bigbenaugust
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Originally Posted by fabiotux
(Post 17878709)
Thanks for the compliment, @RubeRad!
About the expression, if you guys don't mind, let me try to break it word by word... "Girinho" is a diminutive form of the word "Giro". "Giro" is a 1st person of simple present of the verb "Girar". "Girar" in english means "to spin". Okay, so we find out that "Girinho" is something like "Little Spin". "Só no" means something like "Just in a". Notice that the word "Just" have the same meaning as the Nike's slogan: Just Do It" which in portuguese means "Apenas faça"). "Só no Girinho" would be something like "Just in a Little Spin" (and it doesn't make any sense in english, I suppose! So I thought that you might have some expression like this one...or not... After a long time thinking on it, I think there's no way to translate it, nor literally neither with some idioms of yours... Anyway, that's the dificulty (and the beauty, IMHO) of learn a foreing language, specially when you're trying to find an equivalent idiom in your mother tongue. Sorry for this nonsense kind of discussion...LoL It's not a philological forum...but I do appreciate try to understand (and be understood) better in english...I hope you don't mind... Thanks guys! |
It's very fun to me trying to define the feeling when we listen to the expression "Só no Girinho", in order to translate it to english.
The "little spin" is more like the actual movement that you perform using a short/light gear (bigger cog/smaller chainring): Your cadence go up and your effort gets a little easier. So, the expression goes like this: Come on, buddy..."just a little spin" and you're there! (Vamos lá, amigo...só no girinho e você chega lá!" or Man...look at that slope...let's go "just in a little spin". (Cara, olha aquela subida...vamos lá, Só no Girinho). Try to keep in mind that a "little spin" isn't about the slope itself, but the actual movement that you perform, spinning in a light gear to beat the slope...think on it like a mantra: "Go easy spinning light and you'll make it.". The challenge here is to make this "full of words" expression, into a little one...tricky isn't it? hahahha! Thanks for all the attention on this matter. Means more than a fun conversation...means learning how to express myself better in a foreing language... :);):thumb:
Originally Posted by RubeRad
(Post 17879436)
Cool, I love this kind of language stuff! Not word-for-word, but maybe concept-for-concept, we have the expression "It's just a walk in the park", which is often used sarcastically for something difficult. Is that how you mean, even though the current mountain is obviously a "big spin", you try to be encouraging by saying "it's just a little spin"?
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Cool. I think the English equivalent name for your bike is "Granny Gear" (and "Granny" and "Girinho" accidentally almost sound cognate!)
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Hahahaha!
Quite interesting & funny! I liked it! We also use the equivalent word for "Granny" (Vovozinha) to refer the smallest chainring. It doesn't fit to the spirit of "Só no Girinho", but it's quite cute..."Granny Gear"... About the cognate sound, it's because you say "Girinho" with your phonetic alphabet. In portuguese, it has a different sound...the "G" sound more like "J", the "R" is completely different than the "R" on the word "ARM" and the "NHO" sounds like the spanish "Ñ" like in "señor". Try listen on Google Translator "Só no jiriho" in english and then try "Só no Girinho" in portuguese. You'll see that is very different. Idioms & Phonetics are the most difficult part of learn a foreing language...but is also the most exciting part!
Originally Posted by RubeRad
(Post 17879771)
Cool. I think the English equivalent name for your bike is "Granny Gear" (and "Granny" and "Girinho" accidentally almost sound cognate!)
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Originally Posted by fabiotux
(Post 17879914)
About the cognate sound, it's because you say "Girinho" with your phonetic alphabet.
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Cool!
Thanks for the link! I'll listen it for sure!
Originally Posted by RubeRad
(Post 17879956)
As I said, Portuguese is a mystery to me! But I always love to learn. Although G and R may be pronounced differently nowadays, there is a reason they are the letters 'g' and 'r', because far back enough they came from latin, and indo-european roots before that. (I'm about 50 episodes into the History of English Podcast, if you like language, you might enjoy it too. Check out Ep. 5 on the letter 'C' (which is closely related to the letter 'G', as well as 'K'))
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My commuter for the last few weeks
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Originally Posted by fabiotux
(Post 17879914)
We also use the equivalent word for "Granny" (Vovozinha) to refer the smallest chainring.
It doesn't fit to the spirit of "Só no Girinho", but it's quite cute..."Granny Gear"... In portuguese, it has a different sound...the "G" sound more like "J", the "R" is completely different than the "R" on the word "ARM" and the "NHO" sounds like the spanish "Ñ" like in "señor". I hear her voice in my head when I read your phrases... nossa. |
Originally Posted by DiabloScott
(Post 17885501)
I had a girlfriend from Brasil once - I spoke Spanish to her and she spoke Portuguese to me and we understood each other perfectly... other folks would stare at us though in bewilderment.
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Hi there, [MENTION=68015]DiabloScott[/MENTION]!
I hope your actual girlfriend doesn't follow this forum...ahahahaha! Spanish and Portuguese has some "false friends", but indeed is very easy to understand one another.
Originally Posted by DiabloScott
(Post 17885501)
I had a girlfriend from Brasil once - I spoke Spanish to her and she spoke Portuguese to me and we understood each other perfectly... other folks would stare at us though in bewilderment.
I hear her voice in my head when I read your phrases... nossa. |
Originally Posted by TroN0074
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My sometimes-commuter, in full-on commuter mode.
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/390/1...5b0574f0_b.jpg |
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