the stock bb should be an ISIS type
if you want to change it to a square, the shimano part is a shimano un54

found that out using the info cig gave me

Thats right now I remember, Thanks.

have nooooo clue. Surprisingly, I was trying to pick up a denali for my bro and the dang bike's sold out in the local walmarts -_-

I have a Wal Mart MTB that has not had any problems aside from a bent wheel from an accident, but the LBS was able to make it straighter than new for $15. So straight, in fact, I paid them an extra $10 to do the other one. I feel extremely lucky to have had the chance to own a full-suspension MTB for $199 so I could explore bicycling, and would recommend anyone else do the same. I tried the Craigslist route, but not being a bike person, I bought a lemon and it was quite off-putting. I'm really glad I went to Wal Mart and got a new one with a warranty.

One thing I leanred from my MTB is that I want a road bike! I would have gotten a Denali or Schwinn from a big box if they fit me, but at 5'7" they are too big. So I have to fork out the big (for me) bucks for my first road bike, even though I'll likely want a different one after I figure out what REALLY suits me, which can only come from long-term experience.

Am I excited to have a "respectable" road bike? Absolutey! But would I have liked to test out the waters with a Denali or Schwinn 700c Varsity for a couple hundred bucks first? Without a doubt. For all I know, 10 miles on a Felt 95 might tweak my back and I'll have to put it on CL and try something else. Awfully expensive experiment IMHO.

Kudos to you for getting into road cycling, but your "experiment" is kind of far-fetched, don't you think?

tweaking your back is much farther behind in comparison to the notion of having to stick out your behind to the world, is what usually keeps people shy from using drop bars ;p

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Worst-case, yes, but within the realm of possibility. I don't have the healthiest lower back in the world to begin with, but I'm hoping bicycling can improve it by strengthening my back muscles and helping me lose weight at the same time.

drop bar riding may not be for everyone. There are some folks who converted their roadie to use flat bars. YMMV.

Fixing fit problems by changing to wrist-killer flat bars is your own prerogative I guess.

How's he fooling people? And what'd you expect for the price you paid for a bike from Walmart?

Cig's pretty handy and his first Denali required a lot of adjustment which he documented extensively. The conclusion was if you're handy and are familiar with bike adjustments, you can fix and adjust most of the problems you encounter w/ the bike including truing wheels, adjusting RD cable tension, etc. For $150, I'd expect bottom of the barrel components on a gas pipe frame.

Sounds like you got a denali that had been banged around in shipping. I replied to you post about the Bike. I would call the place where you bought it and have it replaced, all so if the frame is damaged then call Kent. The frame has a life time warranty on it. Sorry you got a bad one. But really sound like it was damaged in shipping. Not kents fault. was it insured for shipping? Still at least call Kent.

Careful there, CigTech. You're tiptoeing dangerously close to KentShillTown. The impression is already out there, so just step with care.

Man the guys mad at the wrong people, it was clearly damaged in shipping. Hows that Kent problem... I just saying. And his mad about it. That is very clear, as I would be. But I be mad at the right People (Wal-Mart). I don't like Wal-Mart much eighter but thats where the bike is. And you don't hear me going on about them. You can always order the denali form Kent and stop all this shipping damage, or atleast cut it down to a mininum. Just a thought.

I am just trying to get him to see who he needs to be mad at. And that all the parts are not total P O S. that all. Like I said he is just mad at the wrong people.

No one said you where making any thing up.

Ultraspontane, Maybe you should let someone that knows how to tune the bike up help you..I have 2 denalis and like with any bike you have to make adjustments sometimes.

So with all this Hub and freewheel talk, I pull the Rear wheel to see what name was stamped on it. It's a SunRace Co LTD. Never heard of them. So looked them up on the web and find little. Do see that they have been in business from 2006 to now. The Freewheel looks like a copy of the IRD freewheel with ramped geras for easy shifting. The Freewheel has the fellowing geras 13/15/17/19/21/24/28. So this time around they put a little more range on it. The blue one had the Falcon 14/16/18/20/22/24/28.

2nd weeks report:

Nothing need to be adjusted at all. You know On the First Denali even my mother-n-law said at the time "You spend a lot of time working on that bike." On this one I have had a total of 45 min setting it up. And have rode 461.7 miles with out doing any adjustments on it after the 1st day. I like that.

Think I'll stop reporting my rides and just do wekly reports untill something happens to the bike or parts. Takes a lot of time importing the GPS to map my ride and then takeing the screen shots and all. So unless you guys want the ride by ride play LOL. I'll just do weekly reports.

What I can't figure out about this thread on a whole is that 99.9% of the Bike Forums discourages people from ever buying a department store bike (and rightfully so). And here is a thread dedicated to how it's a really good idea if you are good at bike maintenance.

No matter how good I think that with Craigslists used bike there are way more options than this one and no one on Bike Forums should make this sound like a good idea.

It's a matter of who cares enough to post in a thread. Those that disagree about the value of the Denali have stayed out of this thread (yet are prevalent in the earlier one). It's sort of like if I post a thread titled "Aren't Jamis Quests the best road bicycle ever?" I'll get almost entirely positive responses... and it helps that CigTech is a very, um, prolific poster.

You lost me a little on the last sentence but I think your saying get a bike from Craigslists. This was a big back-and-forth argument in the old (blue) Denali thread. One counter-argument was that there are areas in the country (United States) that just don't have a thriving trade in used "bike shop" quality bikes.

I live in extreme sounthwest Virginia. The county I live in (Lee) has around 25,000 people in it. I know of one other adult in this county that rides a bike. There are no bike shops, and as far as I know never has been one in this county. The closest bike shop that I know of, about a 45 minute drive, is across the state line in Kingsport, Tennessee. It stands to reason that if you don't have a number of people buying new quality bikes then there is not going to be many used bikes available. The time I checked Craigslist I only found listings for higher popluation areas, my immediate area did not even "show up" as existing.

To be fair I do see more adults bicycling in Wise county (a Virginia county next to Lee which doesn't have a bike shop either), and there are shops in the "Tri-City" area in Tennessee (Kingsport, Bristol, Johnson City) and consequently you can find some bikes listed from the Tri-City areas in the newspaper/internet "want-ads", but most sellers are 45 plus minutes away.

Apparently some on BF have 3 or more bike shops within 20 miles of their home and see a lot of bikes moving locally on Craigslist. I imagine (very unscientifically I admit) that the oppprtunity to score a nice used bike here (in Lee county Virginia) is like 1/20th the chance that exists in an ideal location (with more shops and more bicyclist). fewer (competing) options makes the Denali more attractive.

I see a bit of a "catch-22" with the Denali: If you know a bit about bicycles (and have mechanic skills) you can make the Denali work for you...........If you know a bit about bicycles (and have mechanic skills) why would you choose to purchase a Denali? The old (blue) Denali thread turned into, at times, a "class warfare" debate which I'm surprised hasn't happened in this thread.

Wow....I read my post again and I don't even know what I was typing. Perhaps I should try waking up a bit before posting something.

let me try to rephrase that so it makes some sense.

"No matter how good you are with bike maintenance, I think that with Craigslists as an option for good used bikes there are way more viable options than a dept store bike. People on Bike Forums should make these cheap options sound like a good idea."

THat sounds a little better I think. I do see what you are saying about areas with limited access to good used bikes or bike stores however I would still encourage driving whatever distance to get to a good bike store vs. Target or Wal-Mart. (Just my opinion)

Its not a drop bar roadbike and I don't know how it would measure up to all your criteria but there has been some ho-hum praise on BF for the relatively simply-designed Mongoose Paver that sells at Walmart. (I know it uses a single chain-ring up front, and has no spring-shock fork), of course it comes in only one size, so that could be a problem for some.

One Size? There are 3 sizes, 19"(48.3cm) 22.5"(57.2cm) and 25"(63.5cm). Your not the 1st person to have said this. So thought I put this in the post just to clarify.