Anybody use stem mounted friction shifters?
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Anybody use stem mounted friction shifters?
I've heard that stem mounted friction shifters can be nasty in an accident, especially for the man-plums. But what is the risk really? Anybody had a bad experience? Who uses stem mounted friction shifters?
Personally I used suntour ratcheting power shifters for ages with no problems, had no serious accidents though.
Personally I used suntour ratcheting power shifters for ages with no problems, had no serious accidents though.
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I also have 'heard' this. I have them on one bike, well two, but the other is in the process of being converted to bar end, index shifting. The 'issue' isn't one I am very concerned about.
While I am certain that in a 'perfect storm' situation the shifters might cause the problem folks describe, I really doubt the problem is all that serious. All one needs to consider is that given how litigious the US, companies still sold these stem mounted shifters for over a decade. Since alternatives were available, I doubt they would have done so, if the described problem was all that common.
I suspect that this issue is comparable, and possibly a precursor, to the myth of saddle caused impotence...
While I am certain that in a 'perfect storm' situation the shifters might cause the problem folks describe, I really doubt the problem is all that serious. All one needs to consider is that given how litigious the US, companies still sold these stem mounted shifters for over a decade. Since alternatives were available, I doubt they would have done so, if the described problem was all that common.
I suspect that this issue is comparable, and possibly a precursor, to the myth of saddle caused impotence...
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I ride one bike with stem shfiters. Not saying it cant happen, logic and its postion looks like its a possibility. But also there is a possibility that your end up with a brifter in your groin too. There is probably a situation where a bottle cage may end up where the sun don't shine.
I have crashed with my bike that has stems shifters, the shifters didnt hurt me at all it was the pavement the did all the damage.
I have crashed with my bike that has stems shifters, the shifters didnt hurt me at all it was the pavement the did all the damage.
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I've heard that stem mounted friction shifters can be nasty in an accident, especially for the man-plums. But what is the risk really? Anybody had a bad experience? Who uses stem mounted friction shifters?
Personally I used suntour ratcheting power shifters for ages with no problems, had no serious accidents though.
Personally I used suntour ratcheting power shifters for ages with no problems, had no serious accidents though.
But, if you're worried about those pesky "man-plums" (and it's a real risk, given the presence of a bicycle's top tube), get a mixte.
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used them for years and loved them but now I use integrated brake/shift levers and love those more!!!
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A couple of summers ago, I taught a cycling skills class. For the last session, we went out riding. One of my students fell while she was behind me. I didn't see her fall, and no one can explain exactly how it happened, but the upshot was that one of her brake levers impaled her thigh and was entirely submerged. She had upright handlebars, and the brake levers had bulbous ends. So precautions are good, but weird, unexpected things happen. There's no way to make bikes totally safe, and I think it's reasonably safe to use stem shifters.
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I've never liked stem shifters because it seems like a very inconvenient position to me. Even with barcons you have to reach to the end of the handlebar.
For these reasons, I've gone with Shimano STI and SRAM double-tap . . . much better, pretty much right at my finger-tips all the time. My folder has Shimano Nexus (think twist grip) and that works fine too.
But stem shifters? No, I don't think so.
Rick / OCRR
For these reasons, I've gone with Shimano STI and SRAM double-tap . . . much better, pretty much right at my finger-tips all the time. My folder has Shimano Nexus (think twist grip) and that works fine too.
But stem shifters? No, I don't think so.
Rick / OCRR
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Anybody use stem mounted friction shifters?
I've had my fair share (and then some) of tumbles with stem shifters while commuting and touring for the past 25 years or so. Never been hurt by them.
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I've never liked stem shifters because it seems like a very inconvenient position to me. Even with barcons you have to reach to the end of the handlebar.
For these reasons, I've gone with Shimano STI and SRAM double-tap . . . much better, pretty much right at my finger-tips all the time. My folder has Shimano Nexus (think twist grip) and that works fine too.
But stem shifters? No, I don't think so.
Rick / OCRR
For these reasons, I've gone with Shimano STI and SRAM double-tap . . . much better, pretty much right at my finger-tips all the time. My folder has Shimano Nexus (think twist grip) and that works fine too.
But stem shifters? No, I don't think so.
Rick / OCRR
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Yeah, same here. After hearing it at first though I was quite nervous, I kept worriedly looking down at the little blunt spears while I was riding. Maybe that's how stem sifter related accents happen...
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I have them on one bike now, and have had them on others. I wouldn't worry about them. They flip forward when you touch them. It's the stem in between them that's the danger.
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