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Old 07-06-15, 07:43 AM
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HERO4 Session SO SMALL!

Just saw this on Facebook... I'm so excited to get a small GoPro!

https://shop.gopro.com/hero4/hero4-se...CHDHS-101.html

Question, I'd like to get one quick release mount for the bars. Something that I can use on a variety of bikes, quickly move from bike-to-bike. I found this on Amazon, but I'd like some real-world reviews. Do you use a GoPro? Do you bar mount it? Do you move it from bike-to-bike?

Footnote, I've been using a helmet mount Hero 2 for years. I want to get away from the helmet mount for a few reasons.
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Looks like they're copying the SJCAM M10. Which, BTW, is $80.

The Hero is nice in that it's waterproof without a case. Still, $400 is insane these days for a cam like that.

I'm sure it has outstanding video quality, but most people using it on a bike don't need that kind of quality. It's like buying a Hasselblad to take vacation snaps.
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Originally Posted by ItsJustMe
Looks like they're copying the SJCAM M10. Which, BTW, is $80.

The Hero is nice in that it's waterproof without a case. Still, $400 is insane these days for a cam like that.

I'm sure it has outstanding video quality, but most people using it on a bike don't need that kind of quality. It's like buying a Hasselblad to take vacation snaps.
Yes and no.... I already have mounts for my GoPro, so I'm invested in GoPro.

Video quality has been important to me; the most common reason I save/post a video is because of a dangerous driver. Getting a clear image of the licence plate isn't easy at road speed; therefore, high-quality video has a real value to me.

Here's an example from my Hero 2, this video was complimented by the local PD for its video quality:
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Originally Posted by Hypno Toad
Yes and no.... I already have mounts for my GoPro, so I'm invested in GoPro.

Video quality has been important to me; the most common reason I save/post a video is because of a dangerous driver. Getting a clear image of the licence plate isn't easy at road speed; therefore, high-quality video has a real value to me.

Here's an example from my Hero 2, this video was complimented by the local PD for its video quality:
All of the clones are fully compatible with GoPro mounts.

The video from the < $100 clones are better than the quality of the cheaper GoPros, and not really that much different than even the better ones. Generally the $80 SJCAMs are comparable with the current Hero Silver, better than the White, not as good as the Black. But you'd hope a $400 camera would be better than an $80 one. It's just surprising that the $80 is as good as their $300 camera.

Or not really surprising since you're paying for the ink on the front that says "GoPro"
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Originally Posted by ItsJustMe
All of the clones are fully compatible with GoPro mounts.

The video from the < $100 clones are better than the quality of the cheaper GoPros, and not really that much different than even the better ones. Generally the $80 SJCAMs are comparable with the current Hero Silver, better than the White, not as good as the Black. But you'd hope a $400 camera would be better than an $80 one. It's just surprising that the $80 is as good as their $300 camera.

Or not really surprising since you're paying for the ink on the front that says "GoPro"
Well, I'm not getting the information I requested... but we can enjoy a conversation about POV cameras and prices.

My Hero 2 has been a very good camera, I've used it for 3 years with great success. It has held up in extreme conditions, including sub-zero temps. I'm not sure I trust an $80 clone to have the same durability. I'm not about throwing money around for a name, but I'm not about sacrificing quality for price (penny wise, pound foolish). You could buy a bike at Target for $299, but I doubt it will be able to hold up like a good road bike for $1,000.

For the record, I got a great price on my Hero 2: $0 (work-related bonus).
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Originally Posted by ItsJustMe
Looks like they're copying the SJCAM M10. Which, BTW, is $80.

The Hero is nice in that it's waterproof without a case. Still, $400 is insane these days for a cam like that.

I'm sure it has outstanding video quality, but most people using it on a bike don't need that kind of quality. It's like buying a Hasselblad to take vacation snaps.
And the SJCAM M10 looks like it was copying the Polaroid Cube which is even smaller. The Hero Session also has copied the one-button off/on+record switch which the Contour Roam has had for years. And the Roam gets twice the recording time of the Session. So I'm not impressed either.

But my recent experiences with catching reckless drivers has made me realize that video quality is VERY important! Take a look at this video I shot just 4 days ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzZvSx4cVeo

Even with the original video file, I cannot read that license plate.

A professional video guy I know has recommended the Replay Prime X. It is what he uses on his motorcycle and is popular with law enforcement and motor racing. I'm trying to get him to provide a sample of oncoming traffic to check the readability of license plates.

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Originally Posted by Hypno Toad
Yes and no.... I already have mounts for my GoPro, so I'm invested in GoPro.

Video quality has been important to me; the most common reason I save/post a video is because of a dangerous driver. Getting a clear image of the licence plate isn't easy at road speed; therefore, high-quality video has a real value to me.

Here's an example from my Hero 2, this video was complimented by the local PD for its video quality:
Jeezus!!!
How close was that?
Since wide-angle lenses always make objects look further away than they really were, I'm guessing only inches.
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Duh. Finally, a reasonable form factor go pro. I always thought the original and continuing shape was ridiculous, but then the founder of the go-pro is a billionaire and I'm not.
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Originally Posted by Shimagnolo
Jeezus!!!
How close was that?
Since wide-angle lenses always make objects look further away than they really were, I'm guessing only inches.
I'm guessing 6 to 12 inches, but the shock of this hateful behavior made it hard to know how close she was. Local PD was very responsive and let me know that they contacted this driver (no charges, only a warning).

But to my point, this is the primary purpose for the action camera on my bikes. I've seen too many dangerous/hateful drivers put my life and my friends/family lives in peril. At $400, it's a cheap way to improve road safety and save lives. Reading this post from a friend of a friend, or watching a hateful driver scream obscenities while trying to force my wife off the road.... These things reinforce how much value a good action camera has. I've only used my GoPro on commutes, and I want to set up to use it on all my rides. So, I'm looking for a small-form camera with a quick-release to mount on a variety of bikes.
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Wow, pretty cool. Bummer there's no 1080p/120fps or 720p/240fps but I guess concessions must be made in order to make it so small.
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should make it a little bigger and maybe go for 3-4 hours instead of 2
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For $400 it should have user-replaceable batteries! I was interested until I read the "built-in battery" part on GoPro's website. They advertise that like it's actually an advantage! Bleh!

I'm still using a helmet-mounted Hero3+ Silver, and I carry several spare batteries for long rides.
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Originally Posted by Hypno Toad
I'm guessing 6 to 12 inches, but the shock of this hateful behavior made it hard to know how close she was. Local PD was very responsive and let me know that they contacted this driver (no charges, only a warning).

But to my point, this is the primary purpose for the action camera on my bikes. I've seen too many dangerous/hateful drivers put my life and my friends/family lives in peril. At $400, it's a cheap way to improve road safety and save lives. Reading this post from a friend of a friend, or watching a hateful driver scream obscenities while trying to force my wife off the road.... These things reinforce how much value a good action camera has. I've only used my GoPro on commutes, and I want to set up to use it on all my rides. So, I'm looking for a small-form camera with a quick-release to mount on a variety of bikes.
Bumping this thread and wondering if you ever got an answer. I just bought a GoPro knock off and want the same exact thing: a reliable, easy to use quick release GoPro handlebar mount. You'd think that this would be an easy find, but everything I've seen has either been way too bulky or a kludge/customization of another mount.
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Originally Posted by caloso
Bumping this thread and wondering if you ever got an answer. I just bought a GoPro knock off and want the same exact thing: a reliable, easy to use quick release GoPro handlebar mount. You'd think that this would be an easy find, but everything I've seen has either been way too bulky or a kludge/customization of another mount.
I have this mount, I don't call it quick or easy to move from bike to bike. It'll take me about 2 minutes to transfer bikes (depending on remember the correct size adapter). But it is a good mount with many mounting option. This mount has a number of adapters for difference diameter tubes, making it flexible. It is not exactly compact, but the best thing I've found.
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Originally Posted by Hypno Toad
I have this mount, I don't call it quick or easy to move from bike to bike. It'll take me about 2 minutes to transfer bikes (depending on remember the correct size adapter). But it is a good mount with many mounting option. This mount has a number of adapters for difference diameter tubes, making it flexible. It is not exactly compact, but the best thing I've found.
Yeah. I got an aluminum mount that is very narrow, low profile, and steady. But it requires a hex wrench, so it's not quick or easy. I was thinking of getting that Minoura camera mount mentioned upthread; or trying my own kludge with a PDW Mission Control mount. Maybe just epoxying a knuckle to it.
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All my bikes have Barfly GPS mounts and the camera swaps between them with Phillips screw.
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Originally Posted by caloso
Bumping this thread and wondering if you ever got an answer. I just bought a GoPro knock off and want the same exact thing: a reliable, easy to use quick release GoPro handlebar mount. You'd think that this would be an easy find, but everything I've seen has either been way too bulky or a kludge/customization of another mount.
For a Hero Session, the best option is using fixed mounts and multiple cages.

So the mount and cage stay on the bike, and the camera just pops out. Not necessarily the cheapest solution though.

The GP handlebar mount is very nice though.
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I had a very close look at the GoPro Hero 5 but ended up getting the new Garmin Virb Ultra 30 .... I'm getting close to 2hrs battery life without any of my sensors connected (cadence, heartrate, speed), but I will be getting the cage and an Apidura top bar bag with a powerbank so that I can connect directly to the camera for rides longer than 2 hours
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