Two Quick Garmin 820 Questions
#26
- Soli Deo Gloria -
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 14,779
Likes: 743
From: Northwest Georgia
Bikes: 2018 Rodriguez Custom Fixed Gear, 2017 Niner RLT 9 RDO, 2015 Bianchi Pista, 2002 Fuji Robaix
The 820 has a $100 cheaper list price and seems like the least expensive route to get structured workouts which the V650 does not do.
I like the smaller form factor and incident/emergency detection is mildly interesting.
Simplified interface appeals to me. I work with technology all day have have little tolerance for highly complex menu systems and such things. I tend to set these types of devices once and never change the settings. I'm not saying that the 1000 interface is complex, just that given the choice, I'd go for the simpler interface over the more complex one.
Another question for you guys; does the Edge 820 pair with a phone for text/call notification? I understand it uses the phone for audio prompts for directions but my Edge 25 would light up when my daughter texts me or work calls. I'm often on call for work - it is very lucrative for me and I need to be able to see when someone calls me. That would be a nice feature.
-tim-
#27
Senior Member


Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 15,256
Likes: 1,759
From: Far beyond the pale horizon.
Another question for you guys; does the Edge 820 pair with a phone for text/call notification? I understand it uses the phone for audio prompts for directions but my Edge 25 would light up when my daughter texts me or work calls. I'm often on call for work - it is very lucrative for me and I need to be able to see when someone calls me. That would be a nice feature.
In terms of features, it appears the 820 does everything the 1000 does and more but the 1000 has the bigger/more-detailed screen.
dcrainmaker is a good source for information about the units (but he hasn't done the in-depth review of the 820 yet).
https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2016/07/...-edge-820.html
Simplified interface appeals to me. I work with technology all day have have little tolerance for highly complex menu systems and such things. I tend to set these types of devices once and never change the settings. I'm not saying that the 1000 interface is complex, just that given the choice, I'd go for the simpler interface over the more complex one.
(Sometimes, Garmin makes things less complicated by removing useful options.)
Last edited by njkayaker; 12-08-16 at 12:16 PM.
#28
The 820 gives you text/call/calendar/missed call/other notifications.
The 800 was the last 8xx computer that didn't. I can't say how they work on an 820 but on a 1000 a message shows up at the bottom of the screen that says "Text from Beth" or something; if you touch it, the text will display, if you touch outside of it or wait long enough it will go away. I assume emails will show the "preview" version of the message that's displayed in your phone's notification area. Haven't seen calendar alerts on the Edge yet so I can't comment on them. You can allow or block alerts from Facebook or Uber or anything else on your phone.
The 800 was the last 8xx computer that didn't. I can't say how they work on an 820 but on a 1000 a message shows up at the bottom of the screen that says "Text from Beth" or something; if you touch it, the text will display, if you touch outside of it or wait long enough it will go away. I assume emails will show the "preview" version of the message that's displayed in your phone's notification area. Haven't seen calendar alerts on the Edge yet so I can't comment on them. You can allow or block alerts from Facebook or Uber or anything else on your phone.
#29
Same question back at ya... I'm curious.
The 820 has a $100 cheaper list price and seems like the least expensive route to get structured workouts which the V650 does not do.
I like the smaller form factor and incident/emergency detection is mildly interesting.
Simplified interface appeals to me. I work with technology all day have have little tolerance for highly complex menu systems and such things. I tend to set these types of devices once and never change the settings. I'm not saying that the 1000 interface is complex, just that given the choice, I'd go for the simpler interface over the more complex one.
The 820 has a $100 cheaper list price and seems like the least expensive route to get structured workouts which the V650 does not do.
I like the smaller form factor and incident/emergency detection is mildly interesting.
Simplified interface appeals to me. I work with technology all day have have little tolerance for highly complex menu systems and such things. I tend to set these types of devices once and never change the settings. I'm not saying that the 1000 interface is complex, just that given the choice, I'd go for the simpler interface over the more complex one.
For me, the better screen was the deciding feature. The 1000 was on sale when I bought it and the price was essentially the same.
I don't know if the 820 offers "round trip routing" or not, it's an interesting feature. The 800 I'm used to didn't have that. Sometimes I'd drive my bike somewhere, follow my whim for a while, then have the device route me back to my car, which was my way of getting the same feature.
#30
Senior Member

Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,492
Likes: 109
From: Oahu, HI
Bikes: 89 Paramount OS 84 Fuji Touring Series III New! 2013 Focus Izalco Ergoride
I have an 800, should be the same as 820 (guessing). I use RideWithGPS for all routing as I find their route builder works best for me. I usually have my 800 USB connected/charging while I plan, then download either the gpx or tcx file to my Garmin "new" folder. AFAIK when you power up the Garmin it will take any files found in the folder, convert to binary as necessary and resave them. For 800 I think you can use gpx and have the Garmin generate turn anticipation for you, with tcx you also get turn alerting from the "route sheet" waypoints (so tcx works with GPS units without on-board routing). I think you have to have a paid RwGPS account to edit the "route sheet" (haven't done a route in a while), but that's never been a need for me.
I know the 820 is bit different from the 800/810 but hopefully the above applies.
scott s.
.
I know the 820 is bit different from the 800/810 but hopefully the above applies.
scott s.
.
#31
- Soli Deo Gloria -
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 14,779
Likes: 743
From: Northwest Georgia
Bikes: 2018 Rodriguez Custom Fixed Gear, 2017 Niner RLT 9 RDO, 2015 Bianchi Pista, 2002 Fuji Robaix
The 820 has phone notifications. The older 810 does too. (So does the 1000.)
In terms of features, it appears the 820 does everything the 1000 does and more but the 1000 has the bigger/more-detailed screen.
dcrainmaker is a good source for information about the units (but he hasn't done the in-depth review of the 820 yet).
https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2016/07/...-edge-820.html
The interface of the 1000 isn't really more complex. The big advantage of the 1000 is the bigger screen (which has more pixels), which is useful when using maps.
(Sometimes, Garmin makes things less complicated by removing useful options.)
In terms of features, it appears the 820 does everything the 1000 does and more but the 1000 has the bigger/more-detailed screen.
dcrainmaker is a good source for information about the units (but he hasn't done the in-depth review of the 820 yet).
https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2016/07/...-edge-820.html
The interface of the 1000 isn't really more complex. The big advantage of the 1000 is the bigger screen (which has more pixels), which is useful when using maps.
(Sometimes, Garmin makes things less complicated by removing useful options.)
I've read the DC Rainmaker 820 article and I missed mention of phone/text notifications. Thanks for the confirmation.
-Tim-
#32
- Soli Deo Gloria -
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 14,779
Likes: 743
From: Northwest Georgia
Bikes: 2018 Rodriguez Custom Fixed Gear, 2017 Niner RLT 9 RDO, 2015 Bianchi Pista, 2002 Fuji Robaix
I'm the same way about setting the device up once and leaving it that way. I copied the data pages over from my 800. I didn't have a chance to compare the UIs so I assumed I could make either one work. Form factor wasn't really an issue for me; the 1000 is big, but within reason.
For me, the better screen was the deciding feature. The 1000 was on sale when I bought it and the price was essentially the same.
I don't know if the 820 offers "round trip routing" or not, it's an interesting feature. The 800 I'm used to didn't have that. Sometimes I'd drive my bike somewhere, follow my whim for a while, then have the device route me back to my car, which was my way of getting the same feature.
For me, the better screen was the deciding feature. The 1000 was on sale when I bought it and the price was essentially the same.
I don't know if the 820 offers "round trip routing" or not, it's an interesting feature. The 800 I'm used to didn't have that. Sometimes I'd drive my bike somewhere, follow my whim for a while, then have the device route me back to my car, which was my way of getting the same feature.
I really, really, really don't want to see email. Really.
FWIW, the Polar V650 has a "Return to Start" on screen function.
#33
I don't know if Edges have a "return to start" feature or not? My watch has two versions of that (back the way we came, or take the shortest line) but I've never looked for it on the Edge. I've just used the map - you touch a place and a "go" button appears.
You can turn any kind of notification on or off, so yes text no email yes call. You can allow (or block) notifications from any app you have on your phone.
I'm not finding any screenshots of notifications on an 820 but this turned up:
You can turn any kind of notification on or off, so yes text no email yes call. You can allow (or block) notifications from any app you have on your phone.
I'm not finding any screenshots of notifications on an 820 but this turned up:
#34
Senior Member


Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 15,256
Likes: 1,759
From: Far beyond the pale horizon.
It's easy enough to have a return to start (making it odd to not have one).
With the Garmins, one can drop a pin (location) at the start (somewhat weak because you have to remember to do that). You can also scroll the map to your start and drop a pin.
The Garmins (with maps) can calculate routes to locations.
There should be an option to calculate a reverse course.
One can always follow the cyan line (your recorded track) back to the start.
With the Garmins, one can drop a pin (location) at the start (somewhat weak because you have to remember to do that). You can also scroll the map to your start and drop a pin.
The Garmins (with maps) can calculate routes to locations.
There should be an option to calculate a reverse course.
One can always follow the cyan line (your recorded track) back to the start.
#35
Senior Member


Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 15,256
Likes: 1,759
From: Far beyond the pale horizon.
"As one who supports highly complex technology solutions", you should (reading them would confirm that there are no waypoints in the gpx track files).
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
bernmart
Electronics, Lighting, & Gadgets
6
06-05-14 12:44 PM





