Philips Saferide LED Bicycle Light 80 Lux Generation 2 battery life
10-25-14, 08:24 PM
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I've owned a couple of dynohub-equipped bikes. My current daily riders have different brake requirements, so I'd need two complete wheel/light setups to go dyno.
10-25-14, 11:39 PM
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No, not annoying. I'm sure I'll go that route in a couple of years. Just not now. Actually, the Saferide will be used as supplemental lighting on the way home from work during rush hour, or when weather is a factor(fog, rain, etc.). So on average it will be used 1 hr/day in good weather 4 days a week(10hr. work day).
BTW. Does this quote ring a bell? Be assertive. If you command respect, you’re more likely to get it(https://patch.com/new-jersey/southorange/the-go-to-bike-guy).
I happen to come across this a couple of weeks ago. Two winters ago I was quite apprehensive approaching an intersection(especially at night). One reason was my lighting wasn't that great. I would slow down approaching an intersection, and there was a good chance someone would pull out in front of me. Last winter(much better lighting) when I approached an intersection I would actually speed up a bit and it works. Of course, always have a plan B if the motorist does pull out in front of you! Anyways, that's the first time I heard that said.
BTW. Does this quote ring a bell? Be assertive. If you command respect, you’re more likely to get it(https://patch.com/new-jersey/southorange/the-go-to-bike-guy).
I happen to come across this a couple of weeks ago. Two winters ago I was quite apprehensive approaching an intersection(especially at night). One reason was my lighting wasn't that great. I would slow down approaching an intersection, and there was a good chance someone would pull out in front of me. Last winter(much better lighting) when I approached an intersection I would actually speed up a bit and it works. Of course, always have a plan B if the motorist does pull out in front of you! Anyways, that's the first time I heard that said.
10-26-14, 02:29 PM
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10-26-14, 03:14 PM
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I own a v2 of the Phillips Saferide, and have been testing the battery life. Here's what I got, at indoor room temperature:
2700mah rechargeable AA's -
High: 1:53
Low: 3:12
Off: 3:55
"Low" is the point where the light starting dimming below the regular light output of low mode. You can also switch it back to high mode from low mode when it switches automatically, and probably get another half hour of runtime on high mode out of it if you want. (Haven't gotten to testing it yet).
If I was riding with a light in the cold, I would...use a dynamo, lol. But for AA batteries, the Eneloop Pro's are the highest capacity (2550mAh type, 2450mAh min) nimh batteries that I know of that specifically claim to have improved chemistry for working in the cold:
Amazon.com: Panasonic BK-3HCCA4BA eneloop pro AA High Capacity New Ni-MH Pre-Charged Rechargeable Batteries, 4 Pack: Electronics
2700mah rechargeable AA's -
High: 1:53
Low: 3:12
Off: 3:55
"Low" is the point where the light starting dimming below the regular light output of low mode. You can also switch it back to high mode from low mode when it switches automatically, and probably get another half hour of runtime on high mode out of it if you want. (Haven't gotten to testing it yet).
If I was riding with a light in the cold, I would...use a dynamo, lol. But for AA batteries, the Eneloop Pro's are the highest capacity (2550mAh type, 2450mAh min) nimh batteries that I know of that specifically claim to have improved chemistry for working in the cold:
Amazon.com: Panasonic BK-3HCCA4BA eneloop pro AA High Capacity New Ni-MH Pre-Charged Rechargeable Batteries, 4 Pack: Electronics
2. "Low" mode on the Gen 1 is more of an "emergency backup" mode in my opinion. "Low" on the Gen 2 is a higher and very decent amount of light. I usually have no problem riding most of the time on "Low" on the gen 2 version for the whole ride. When I turn the light on on Low sometimes I forget that it's not on high. Etc.
You're right on when you say city-eco mode is sufficient in most cases. Sorry for the paraphrase.
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11-01-14, 05:45 PM
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Dear business partner, dear customer,
On March 31, 2014, Philips will permanently discontinue its line of LED BikeLights. This includes the sale of the products belonging to the Philips LED Saferide®, Philips LED Activeride® and Philips LED RearLight product lines. All products and accessories will be retired from the market.
After that date, the products will be no longer for sale, and orders will no longer be accepted. We will continue to provide aftersales and support services for the products that have been sold in the last years, according to the terms and conditions that you may expect from a Philips solution.
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I did a 30 mile ride this morning with my new Gen2 and stock batteries cycled 3 times(charge/discharge that is). They only lasted about 10 minutes. I know: surprise, surprise! Have you used the standard eneloops in your light and what was the run time vs. the eneloop pro which can be charged 500 times as opposed to 2100 times for the standard eneloop? Or is that what you'll be testing on your porch this winter?
You're right on when you say city-eco mode is sufficient in most cases. Sorry for the paraphrase.
You're right on when you say city-eco mode is sufficient in most cases. Sorry for the paraphrase.
The included batteries unfortunately have a reputation for being defective. :-( Wasn't sure if they had fixed that with the v2.
I tested with both Maha 2700's, and also some Rayovac Low Discharge batteries I still had. The Rayovacs all tested between 2,000-2,150 mah on my charger.
Phillips Saferide v2 - Powerex 2700 (in-light charging)
High: 1:53
Low: 3:12
Off: 3:55
I'm hesitant to post my rayovac times because I found that my Lacrosse battery charger is...not up to snuff. The batteries last longer when charged in the light than they do with the charger on charge/refresh. (!@#!@#). When I tested them I got High: 1:14, Low: 2:50, Off: 2:59, BUT - like I said, that may be a fault of the external charger. All my best runtimes came from charging batteries in-light, and I haven't gotten around to doing that with the Rayovacs.
My recommendation for batteries right now would be the Rayovac/Eneloop High Capacity (2550mAh type, 2450mAh min, Ni-MH High Capacity pre-charged rechargeable battery) -
Amazon.com: Panasonic BK-3HCCA4BA eneloop pro AA High Capacity New Ni-MH Pre-Charged Rechargeable Batteries, 4 Pack: Electronics
They seem to be the highest quality, and work better in the cold than previous nimh chemistries. That's what I would go with.
11-02-14, 07:22 PM
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Anyways, it lasted 10 minutes before dropping to low. Interesting though, I was able to complete my ride in the yellow without the indicator going red. The amount of time the light was left on was 3 hrs(still in yellow). Ride time was 1.7 hrs(left the light on after I was done riding).
So Maha/Powerex 2700's would be a good recourse in non winter weather? FYI I ordered the Eneloop Pros(2550 mha) yesterday. Only good for 500 charges. But hey, winter is not 365 days/yr. Well, not in St. Louis anyway. IIRC you had 53 days of 0 or below this last winter compared to my paltry 5 days. But I did do my coldest ride ever starting out at -5 and finishing at +1 on a 50 mile trek. Wasn't fun. I was warm but dressed like the Michelin Man. I think I averaged 12mph on my "fast" road bike.
Here's a rudimentary question. Do you use a wall charger and if so, what brand? I need at least 1000 ma. Or an adaptor for the supplied EU charger. My current one at work will not fully charge the light in 10 hours. Maybe because I didn't do the required number of charge/discharge cycles. I don't know,
11-03-14, 07:07 PM
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I assumed everybody was a mind reader! Read what I'm thinking. Not what I type.
Anyways, it lasted 10 minutes before dropping to low. Interesting though, I was able to complete my ride in the yellow without the indicator going red. The amount of time the light was left on was 3 hrs(still in yellow). Ride time was 1.7 hrs(left the light on after I was done riding).
Anyways, it lasted 10 minutes before dropping to low. Interesting though, I was able to complete my ride in the yellow without the indicator going red. The amount of time the light was left on was 3 hrs(still in yellow). Ride time was 1.7 hrs(left the light on after I was done riding).
So Maha/Powerex 2700's would be a good recourse in non winter weather? FYI I ordered the Eneloop Pros(2550 mha) yesterday. Only good for 500 charges. But hey, winter is not 365 days/yr. Well, not in St. Louis anyway. IIRC you had 53 days of 0 or below this last winter compared to my paltry 5 days. But I did do my coldest ride ever starting out at -5 and finishing at +1 on a 50 mile trek. Wasn't fun. I was warm but dressed like the Michelin Man. I think I averaged 12mph on my "fast" road bike.
I'll be curious to see what your results with the Eneloops are - if you still get that "drops to low mode near the start of the ride" annoyance.
Here's a rudimentary question. Do you use a wall charger and if so, what brand? I need at least 1000 ma. Or an adaptor for the supplied EU charger. My current one at work will not fully charge the light in 10 hours. Maybe because I didn't do the required number of charge/discharge cycles. I don't know,
12-01-14, 11:06 AM
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I went for my first ride with my new Ixon IQ Premium this morning. I have previously described the Ixon IQ as "adequate" and would describe the Premium as "more than adequate". It's a little brighter and the pattern is a little wider which provides somewhat more confidence when turning. I didn't notice anything remarkable about the color as some others have mentioned, but I rode with amber lenses this morning. I have used brighter lights in the past and can certainly see how some people don't think the B&M battery lights are bright enough. However, I ride a lot on bike paths and don't like to be blinded by other riders with overly bright lights so I prefer to use the shaped beam of the B&M as a courtesy to others.
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I went for my first ride with my new Ixon IQ Premium this morning. I have previously described the Ixon IQ as "adequate" and would describe the Premium as "more than adequate". It's a little brighter and the pattern is a little wider which provides somewhat more confidence when turning. I didn't notice anything remarkable about the color as some others have mentioned, but I rode with amber lenses this morning. I have used brighter lights in the past and can certainly see how some people don't think the B&M battery lights are bright enough. However, I ride a lot on bike paths and don't like to be blinded by other riders with overly bright lights so I prefer to use the shaped beam of the B&M as a courtesy to others.
I copied your thoughts and posted them in my own ongoing thread on the Ixon Iq Premium Light here, fyi -
https://www.bikeforums.net/commuting/...l#post17353687
Lol, opinions seem to vary dramatically on what is bright enough. You find the original Ixon Iq to be fine.
I find the original Ixon Iq (40 lux) to be insufficient. I think I've called it terrible before. :-) But found the Cyo (60lux) to be sufficient.
Another poster in that thread found the Ixon Iq Premium (80 lux) to be insufficient and would not recommend it to anyone. (Though several other people have said what you or I were saying that it was good).
Seems like perhaps people's eyeballs have a wide range of how much light they need, and what color temperature they work well with.
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