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07-05-20 | 05:00 PM
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No but I’m sure I will. I know where the tanks aka ponds are were the pigs like to be that are near the road. They usually run away from you but if all confused could run into you and with those tusks it could turn out bad. Nasty crop destroying pests but if you shoot the 80-100 pounders they make great bar b q.. The big fat 300-500 pounders just stink. No natural enemies even coyotes won’t mess with a 500 pound angry mama sow.
07-05-20 | 05:26 PM
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Accuweather's forecast for Seattle for July shows a quite a few days around 80. Mostly 70's.
Guess with San Diego (Coronado) and Santa Cruz in my homeowning past, I'm just a left coaster.
I could not be a cyclist in southern summer heat and/or humidity.
But I couldn't live there either, so best for all.
Guess with San Diego (Coronado) and Santa Cruz in my homeowning past, I'm just a left coaster.
I could not be a cyclist in southern summer heat and/or humidity.
But I couldn't live there either, so best for all.
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07-05-20 | 06:31 PM
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Yes, just a few hours ago I almost collided with a deer. I was on routes where I know the roads very well so I know where the deer tend to be. Not nearly as lonely as the route you cruised at night. Skunks and rattlesnakes is my biggest fear. It was great to get out of the hot sun and the old boring route is like new at night it feels like a completely different route. I haven’t cycled at night very much so this is new and keeping the sport fresh.
The locals told me they'd be most concerned about feral dogs, but TBH the locals were home in bed at 2am, not on the road to Sonora.
07-05-20 | 06:46 PM
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The poor dog that chases me just wants to run. The poor thing is half blind and slow. I stopped and let it catch me and the dog was smirking and all happy. Trotted back home all content...
07-05-20 | 09:07 PM
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True. We have a serious problem with feral hogs in Texas. I haven't hunted in years but I'd consider it for the feral hog problem. They're a menace to the entire ecosystem, not to mention dangerous to hikers or people who work outdoors.
07-05-20 | 10:45 PM
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The state will give ranchers money to hire helicopters with shooters in them to shoot feral hogs. Sometimes I can here a helicopter then gun fire shooting hogs. When My family had a large ranch I hunted hogs all the time. We even had hog traps. We would also let people come over a hunt as many hogs as they wanted for free. Just to get rid of them. Like canklecat said they tear stuff up. They will ruin your whole yard and will even eat every seed in a farmer’s field right after it has been planted. Urban legend has it in S Texas this farmer lost his hog farm so he just let his 500 hogs loose and that started a boom in the feral hog population. No natural predators and they are a tough animal and smart.
07-07-20 | 09:23 AM
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Here's how the pros train for the heat: https://trainright.com/badwater-lessons-preparation/
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07-07-20 | 09:40 AM
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Thanks for the link. About the only one I've tried is running the heater in the summer. That wasn't to acclimate my body.
At the time my vehicle's radiator was clogged by the water here. So I delivered pizza in the summer running the heater. Believe it or not it kept the engine from popping a cork. Until I saved enough in tips to have the radiator rodded.
Nowadays my strategy is to pay attention to the weather predictions and the messages my body is telling me. Slow down when you have to. Ride faster at other times. Try to enjoy the ride fast or slow.
At the time my vehicle's radiator was clogged by the water here. So I delivered pizza in the summer running the heater. Believe it or not it kept the engine from popping a cork. Until I saved enough in tips to have the radiator rodded.
Nowadays my strategy is to pay attention to the weather predictions and the messages my body is telling me. Slow down when you have to. Ride faster at other times. Try to enjoy the ride fast or slow.
07-07-20 | 10:32 AM
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Only issue for the badwater link is that it is for runners that can't go fast enough for the evaporative cooling effect to exceed the amount of heat they are producing. Cycling you can do that. Anytime I'm sweating and over 16 mph in high 90's to triple digits, heat isn't an issue. Slow down and/or stop sweating, then it's time to be alert for heat exhaustion.
Certainly everything in that article is as anecdotal as my statements.
Certainly everything in that article is as anecdotal as my statements.
07-07-20 | 12:12 PM
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I agree with most of your post with a couple of exceptions. First, I think hyponatremia is extremely rare with cyclists. I've heard of it, once with a friend who was part way through RAAM and had to be hospitalized and another time with a guy who was doing a 150 mile climbing ride on a hot day and he wasn't eating. I think if a cyclist is eating or at least taking electrolytes the risk is minimal. I know people have died from it during marathons, but these are people who spend 6+ hours running with nothing but water.
The other thing is the "drink only when thirsty" idea. This may work for some but certainly not everyone every time. When I do a hot climbing ride I cannot keep up with the fluid loss and have to start forcing water early in the ride. I typically come home from a hot ride (6 hours, more or less) 5 or 6 pounds lighter. I tried to ration water once, still drank a bunch, and was 11 pounds lighter after the ride. To me, thirst doesn't enter it and I must make a conscious effort to drink.
The other thing is the "drink only when thirsty" idea. This may work for some but certainly not everyone every time. When I do a hot climbing ride I cannot keep up with the fluid loss and have to start forcing water early in the ride. I typically come home from a hot ride (6 hours, more or less) 5 or 6 pounds lighter. I tried to ration water once, still drank a bunch, and was 11 pounds lighter after the ride. To me, thirst doesn't enter it and I must make a conscious effort to drink.
If you add salt to your water you MUST add potassium too because without the potassium the salt is worse than nothing. I use half 'N' Half available in the baking section of most grocery stores. I add it to the water only when I need it.
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07-07-20 | 12:33 PM
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Only issue for the badwater link is that it is for runners that can't go fast enough for the evaporative cooling effect to exceed the amount of heat they are producing. Cycling you can do that. Anytime I'm sweating and over 16 mph in high 90's to triple digits, heat isn't an issue. Slow down and/or stop sweating, then it's time to be alert for heat exhaustion.
Certainly everything in that article is as anecdotal as my statements.
Certainly everything in that article is as anecdotal as my statements.
I recall doing a pass climb in 100+ with a tailwind, the sweat from my nose dripping directly down onto my top tube. Luckily the top of the pass was only 85, which was still quite warm. That was Cayuse Pass, RAMROD, don't remember the year, but that was the year when I vowed I would work a lot harder on hydration in the first 3 hours of the ride.
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07-07-20 | 02:40 PM
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Only issue for the badwater link is that it is for runners that can't go fast enough for the evaporative cooling effect to exceed the amount of heat they are producing. Cycling you can do that. Anytime I'm sweating and over 16 mph in high 90's to triple digits, heat isn't an issue. Slow down and/or stop sweating, then it's time to be alert for heat exhaustion.
Depends on the individual; I typically don't need extra potassium. My sweat glands seem to eject every sodium ion that comes along and hang onto the potassium, as my annual blood work shows. Exceptions may be very long days (300k plus) in 80-100 degrees, or after a week or so of long-ish (4 hours plus) rides in hot weather. Just give me a baked potato and a shaker of regular table salt, please!
07-07-20 | 03:08 PM
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An aborted self-supported century ride is one of the reasons that I'm spending my retirement years in North Idaho. A few years before I retired, I planned out a nice century ride from my home in Palmdale, (the high desert north of Los Angeles), to a distant mountain town, Tehachapi. Perpendicular to the wind, so that wouldn't be a problem. Flat across the Antelope Valley, then a moderate, but relentless climb to Tehachapi. Stop for lunch in town, then down the hill and across the valley home. Easy. Or so I thought.
Started out in the morning, made good time across the valley and my first stop outside Rosamond, about 22 miles into the ride. It was a nice, sunny day. But I don't remember it being particularly warm or hot. The little corner market had closed so I rested in the shadow of the nearby wine tasting room. I noticed pretty quickly that beads of sweat broke out all over my arms. "Oh, wow!", I thought. A real world example to use in my "Weather and Climate" class that I taught at the local community college. About how wind evaporates water and as long as I was moving, I was creating my own wind which evaporated the sweat off my arms. "Cool."
I noticed my water was awfully warm too. Almost like drinking watered-down tea. There is nothing more refreshing than ice cold water and noting more disgusting that warm/hot water. Anyway, after eating my little snack, I headed off. After a few more flatish miles, I started climbing through the windmill farm. Not a particularly steep climb, just continuous. As I continued to climb, I started feeling terrible. More and more as I continued climbing.
"Uh oh!", I thought. "Something's not right." "I better turn around and head home, I'm feeling pretty bad." I ended up taking a slightly different route home, one with a lot more little convenience stores along the way. The water in my insulated bottles was so hot that I couldn't drink it. I stopped at every store on the way and purchased something cold to drink. The colder the better.
Along the way, a mail delivery truck came from the opposite direction. The mail lady slowed as she came up to me and asked if I wanted something to drink. I must have looked awful, to have her coming toward me and stopping to offer cold water. She said she carries a cooler of water with her when making her rounds.
Finally limped home and checked the thermometer. It read 104º F. With the low desert humidity, it didn't feel all that hot. But I guess under the cloudless summer sky and pushing a bicycle, it was too much. I spent the rest of the day recovering and re-hydrating. It was also the day I decided that "No more!" I'm going to retire somewhere it doesn't get so hot.
Nixed southern Idaho because it gets triple digits in the summer. Not so up north. I get a kick when people start complaining about how hot it is; and it is only in the high 80s. If they only knew. I do not ride in triple digits anymore. I'm sure that on that day, I was suffering from some form of heat stroke or heat exhaustion. Could have put myself in a coma. I was lucky that day. (And foolish me. I didn't check the weather forecast that day.)
Started out in the morning, made good time across the valley and my first stop outside Rosamond, about 22 miles into the ride. It was a nice, sunny day. But I don't remember it being particularly warm or hot. The little corner market had closed so I rested in the shadow of the nearby wine tasting room. I noticed pretty quickly that beads of sweat broke out all over my arms. "Oh, wow!", I thought. A real world example to use in my "Weather and Climate" class that I taught at the local community college. About how wind evaporates water and as long as I was moving, I was creating my own wind which evaporated the sweat off my arms. "Cool."
I noticed my water was awfully warm too. Almost like drinking watered-down tea. There is nothing more refreshing than ice cold water and noting more disgusting that warm/hot water. Anyway, after eating my little snack, I headed off. After a few more flatish miles, I started climbing through the windmill farm. Not a particularly steep climb, just continuous. As I continued to climb, I started feeling terrible. More and more as I continued climbing.
"Uh oh!", I thought. "Something's not right." "I better turn around and head home, I'm feeling pretty bad." I ended up taking a slightly different route home, one with a lot more little convenience stores along the way. The water in my insulated bottles was so hot that I couldn't drink it. I stopped at every store on the way and purchased something cold to drink. The colder the better.
Along the way, a mail delivery truck came from the opposite direction. The mail lady slowed as she came up to me and asked if I wanted something to drink. I must have looked awful, to have her coming toward me and stopping to offer cold water. She said she carries a cooler of water with her when making her rounds.
Finally limped home and checked the thermometer. It read 104º F. With the low desert humidity, it didn't feel all that hot. But I guess under the cloudless summer sky and pushing a bicycle, it was too much. I spent the rest of the day recovering and re-hydrating. It was also the day I decided that "No more!" I'm going to retire somewhere it doesn't get so hot.
Nixed southern Idaho because it gets triple digits in the summer. Not so up north. I get a kick when people start complaining about how hot it is; and it is only in the high 80s. If they only knew. I do not ride in triple digits anymore. I'm sure that on that day, I was suffering from some form of heat stroke or heat exhaustion. Could have put myself in a coma. I was lucky that day. (And foolish me. I didn't check the weather forecast that day.)
What part of northern Idaho did you move to?
07-07-20 | 04:04 PM
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I recall doing a pass climb in 100+ with a tailwind, the sweat from my nose dripping directly down onto my top tube. Luckily the top of the pass was only 85, which was still quite warm. That was Cayuse Pass, RAMROD, don't remember the year, but that was the year when I vowed I would work a lot harder on hydration in the first 3 hours of the ride.
07-07-20 | 04:09 PM
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I think that was the year Biker395 did the race. I think less than half the riders finished. He got blown off the road once into the sand. He put his bike down once and the wind picked it up and it flew a few yards away.
07-07-20 | 04:25 PM
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Homeyba, who used to post here, rode it that year, too. He posted a photo of a bike maybe 40' away, almost invisible in the blowing sand. The sand must have been just hell.
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07-07-20 | 04:54 PM
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07-08-20 | 02:45 AM
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I went riding in El Cajon near San Diego a couple of years ago . It was summer and 105 in the shade . I stopped at a Starbucks and had tropical iced tea with no sweetener. It is the only time I ever took advantage of my free refill. The straight water just wasn’t quenching my thirst. I have since switched to Nuun and that helps a lot. The mineral supplements are great for us older folks and probably younger folks too.
07-08-20 | 03:43 AM
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Several years back, on the second century ride I'd ever done (so still working out pacing, hydration, etc) the temperature got deep into the 90s with high humidity. At about the 80 mile mark, I would have been wise to make the call of shame and get a ride to the finish, but I didn't. I finished the ride, but I know that I never want to feel like that again. I'm much more conscious these days about extended time in what is, for me, excessive heat and humidity.
07-08-20 | 12:47 PM
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I don't care for cold drink while riding in hot temps. My bottles are uninsulated and just are whatever temp they are. I've always felt that cold water doesn't get absorbed as fast in your gut. I know it's a great way to cool down quick if you are in trouble heat wise. But I've so far been able to control how hot my body gets when working or exercising outside by other things.
Maybe it comes from learning to drink warm beer when a teenager after stacking hay bales during the summer. Never were enough ice machines nearby back then to fill a cooler with.
Maybe it comes from learning to drink warm beer when a teenager after stacking hay bales during the summer. Never were enough ice machines nearby back then to fill a cooler with.
07-08-20 | 04:48 PM
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Hauling and stacking hay will make a man out of you or kill you 
Lifted many a bale when we were in that business but I was much younger. You will learn to hydrate and drink warm water... There were no Yeti ice chests and like you said getting ice was impossible in places.
Lifted many a bale when we were in that business but I was much younger. You will learn to hydrate and drink warm water... There were no Yeti ice chests and like you said getting ice was impossible in places.