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Yes, confound it! Let's get back to a bike discussion.
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No, daggamit! Let's convert one another!
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Huh? There's a thread on global warming?
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Old 04-08-07 | 10:49 AM
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Poll: How many find the global warming thread boring?

Maybe its just me, and no disrespect intended for those of you on either side of the debate (except for those of you who are wrong, of course)...
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Old 04-08-07 | 11:02 AM
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I'm sorry Gary but global warming it just to damn important to
ALL of us to not keep talking ,and working on, ways to stop or
reduce its impact on the earth.

The minute that people stop talking about an important issue
it sldes back to forgotten land. Global warming is to important
to allow that to happen.......even here at Bikeforums.net.
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Old 04-08-07 | 11:06 AM
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Sorry DG, I rose to the bait like a starving fish. Rhetoric trumps logic everytime no matter which side you take. I'll try to be good.

But you have to admit that the cow thing really got them warmed up...

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Old 04-08-07 | 11:11 AM
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Don't know. The topic didn't look very interesting to me so I never opened it up.
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Old 04-08-07 | 11:36 AM
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global warming has finally reached and equal status with politics and religion: subjects you dont want to discuss unless you enjoy making people mad.
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Old 04-08-07 | 11:37 AM
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Me. It belongs in P&R. Moderator!! YO!! MODERATOR!
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Old 04-08-07 | 11:44 AM
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Yeah, it needs to go to P&R. I don't recognize half the folks yakking about it...but I sure do like to bait them.
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Old 04-08-07 | 11:45 AM
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I did not vote. The world almost entirely accepts it's validity. So do I. The debate is old. I won't even open such discussions. Seems pointless. I do not even like thinking it necessary to discuss such. Either we are suicidal or not. Don't care much for Florida anyway.
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Old 04-08-07 | 05:29 PM
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I'm bored with people who aren't willing to address what's obviously a grave problem. Does that count?
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Old 04-08-07 | 05:44 PM
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I'm bored with people who aren't willing to address what's obviously a grave problem. Does that count?
Velo Dog, I do agree it as a serious issue worthy of serious discussion. At the same time I think of the 50+ Forum as a sanctuary of sorts. For me, this is a place where we can support each other through the ups and downs of the cycling life and where we can support each other through the ups and downs of life in general.

That's why--in this venue--I stay out serious stuff anymore. Not saying you're wrong. Just stating my opinion and my perspective n the 50+ Forum.
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Old 04-08-07 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Velo Dog
I'm bored with people who aren't willing to address what's obviously a grave problem. Does that count?
Maybe they'd just like grave problems to be addressed in the proper forum. Who knows?
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Old 04-08-07 | 07:09 PM
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Maybe they'd just like grave problems to be addressed in the proper forum. Who knows?
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Old 04-08-07 | 07:40 PM
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Lefties are always trying to shut down disent. I say take it to the streets.
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Old 04-08-07 | 07:45 PM
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In the streets probably won't get all that far without shoes.
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Old 04-08-07 | 07:48 PM
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Old 04-08-07 | 10:07 PM
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Maybe they'd just like grave problems to be addressed in the proper forum. Who knows?
There have been dozens if not hundreds of threads in the 50+ forum, maybe a couple regarding "grave problems," that perhaps should have been placed in a more "proper forum." Some of those have created hundreds of posts. I say let the one on global warming run its course. Certainly as apropos as the 110+ posts on "where should I retire" or the over 400 posts on weight loss. Moreover, the discussion has been immensely more civil that what we see via-a-vis the global warming issue on TV or stuff written by the pundits on the issue. Maybe we can start a trend here. Plus there is at least some tie in to cycling. Those of us who chose this as a form or recreation are either a) helping in a very small way to stem the problem or b) not hurting those who believe it is not a problem.

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Old 04-08-07 | 11:13 PM
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Maybe its just me, and no disrespect intended for those of you on either side of the debate (except for those of you who are wrong, of course)...
well in the ideal world, there would be infinite tasty cycling topics to discuss, twist thru every dimension and thereby arrive at some pleasant 'enlightenment' within the church of perpetual motion. In reality, after you've had umpteen renditions of anyhting, any new topic helps.
Lets face it, the vast majority of us don't really know any of the others here. Yes, a few actually ride or have ridden together at some point, but thats rare. Ultimately we have some great parlor conversations that also bring some new info (depending on if its new for you) to light. Usually in the ailments/conditions/crosses we must bear.
I don;t know about you, but I mostly feel 'connected' to people I have met in meat space. That some 20 or 30 something can actually feel 'connected' to something purely from a 1 & 0 internet connection, escapes me. Cocktail conversation is usually at its best when you can breeze the room and dabble into the conversation around the fireplace, the one out on the deck or the heated one in the kitchen. Once you start tawkin the same old stuff around the room, the Half-life has diminished rapidly and its time to 'sorry, got to get the babysitter home before ..."
Lets face it, there are a few elder statemen (women?) in any of the BF forums includind 50+, but the vast 'unwashed' (in which I count myself) are at best 3 seasons or younger. Anybody wanna guess why?
So throw us a freekin bone
If we can put up with Diegos adnauseum, despite moderatorial intervention, then global bar-bie doesn;t seem so off-topic.
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Old 04-08-07 | 11:24 PM
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well in the ideal world, there would be infinite tasty cycling topics to discuss, twist thru every dimension and thereby arrive at some pleasant 'enlightenment' within the church of perpetual motion. In reality, after you've had umpteen renditions of anyhting, any new topic helps.
Lets face it, the vast majority of us don't really know any of the others here. Yes, a few actually ride or have ridden together at some point, but thats rare. Ultimately we have some great parlor conversations that also bring some new info (depending on if its new for you) to light. Usually in the ailments/conditions/crosses we must bear.
I don;t know about you, but I mostly feel 'connected' to people I have met in meat space. That some 20 or 30 something can actually feel 'connected' to something purely from a 1 & 0 internet connection, escapes me. Cocktail conversation is usually at its best when you can breeze the room and dabble into the conversation around the fireplace, the one out on the deck or the heated one in the kitchen. Once you start tawkin the same old stuff around the room, the Half-life has diminished rapidly and its time to 'sorry, got to get the babysitter home before ..."
Lets face it, there are a few elder statemen (women?) in any of the BF forums includind 50+, but the vast 'unwashed' (in which I count myself) are at best 3 seasons or younger. Anybody wanna guess why?
So throw us a freekin bone
If we can put up with Diegos adnauseum, despite moderatorial intervention, then global bar-bie doesn;t seem so off-topic.
I think you're saying I should relax and let the thread do it's thing. At least, I think that's what you're saying...

Ain't no big thang...but I'm still entitled to my two cents on it, just as the sadly unenlightened anti-Diegos gave us theirs!

And clearly I have no power here anyway (which is just as well), because as you can see the thread now resembles an Everready battery -- going and going and going!

So yes, I can live and let live. Peace, my brother.
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Old 04-08-07 | 11:55 PM
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Old 04-09-07 | 05:07 AM
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Old 04-09-07 | 06:02 AM
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I have been posting much less in the 50+.

I just can't seem to keep up with the unannounced contests and the P&R appropriate posts, and the cutesy "insider" posts any more.

Nothing wrong with them. And more power to the posters.

It just isn't my "cup of tea" right now.

Maybe I am just burned out on posting in general?

[EDIT]

As I just reviewed a listing of recent posts, there is still a lot of good stuff in between the chaff. So, it must be ME, not the forum!

Maybe I've said all I can say. Anything more is just a repeat.

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Old 04-09-07 | 08:43 AM
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Old 04-09-07 | 11:38 AM
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global warming has finally reached and equal status with politics and religion: subjects you dont want to discuss unless you enjoy making people mad.
Global Warming is Religion to the believers just as Global Cooling was. It's sort of funny that the same causes of Global Cooling now contribute to Global Warming.
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