Purpose/Tone of 50+ Forum
06-13-10 | 02:43 AM
#26
Time for a change.
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From: 6 miles inland from the coast of Sussex, in the South East of England
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06-13-10 | 05:55 AM
#28
Senior Member
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From: Capitol Hill, Washington, DC
Bikes: Specialized Tricross Comp, Custom Steel Sport Touring, Specialized Turbo Vado 4.0 SL
Good post, good forum. I returned to biking after a 30 years absence about 5 years ago. It was nice to find a place I could post a dumb question and know I would get friendly, smart answers. Still is.
06-13-10 | 06:34 AM
#29
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From: St Peters, Missouri
Bikes: Catrike 559 I own some others but they don't get ridden very much.
I'd like to add one thing. I don't think it's wise to rush to judgement about another poster on the basis of one thread or even on a single post.
Several years ago I became absolutely livid at Denver based upon a single post. I realize today that my anger was based upon a misunderstanding and that Denver is, in fact, a good guy. It's certainly possible to disagree with another poster based upon a single post or thread. We aren't even supposed to agree about everything. Before forming an opinion about another poster, however, I think that it's good to hang around for long enough to consider the totality of their contributions.
Several years ago I became absolutely livid at Denver based upon a single post. I realize today that my anger was based upon a misunderstanding and that Denver is, in fact, a good guy. It's certainly possible to disagree with another poster based upon a single post or thread. We aren't even supposed to agree about everything. Before forming an opinion about another poster, however, I think that it's good to hang around for long enough to consider the totality of their contributions.
06-13-10 | 08:26 AM
#30
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Banned.
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I'd like to add one thing. I don't think it's wise to rush to judgement about another poster on the basis of one thread or even on a single post.
Several years ago I became absolutely livid at Denver based upon a single post. I realize today that my anger was based upon a misunderstanding and that Denver is, in fact, a good guy. It's certainly possible to disagree with another poster based upon a single post or thread. We aren't even supposed to agree about everything. Before forming an opinion about another poster, however, I think that it's good to hang around for long enough to consider the totality of their contributions.
Several years ago I became absolutely livid at Denver based upon a single post. I realize today that my anger was based upon a misunderstanding and that Denver is, in fact, a good guy. It's certainly possible to disagree with another poster based upon a single post or thread. We aren't even supposed to agree about everything. Before forming an opinion about another poster, however, I think that it's good to hang around for long enough to consider the totality of their contributions.
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06-13-10 | 12:58 PM
#31
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From: Central Louisiana
I've found 50+ to be a great source of knowledge, encouragement, and humor.
Where else can one get genuine congratulations and encouragement for one's first 10-mile ride or an honest answer to an honest question.
Where else can one get genuine congratulations and encouragement for one's first 10-mile ride or an honest answer to an honest question.
06-13-10 | 02:11 PM
#32
rebmeM roineS
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From: Metro Indy, IN
Bikes: Bacchetta Giro A20, RANS V-Rex, RANS Screamer
06-13-10 | 03:12 PM
#33
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From: Doraville, GA
Bikes: 1995 Raleigh, 1986 Nishiki Olympic 12
I haven't been around that long to make any judgement so I don't see anything wrong with it. One thing that is obvious is DnvrFox's leadership qualities. That is evident.
Sure, there are a lot of questions I'd like to ask but I don't knowing that they were probably asked at another time in the past. For that I try to look it up.
Sure, there are a lot of questions I'd like to ask but I don't knowing that they were probably asked at another time in the past. For that I try to look it up.
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06-13-10 | 08:42 PM
#34
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From: Alberta,Canada.
I haven't been around that long to make any judgement so I don't see anything wrong with it. One thing that is obvious is DnvrFox's leadership qualities. That is evident.
Sure, there are a lot of questions I'd like to ask but I don't knowing that they were probably asked at another time in the past. For that I try to look it up.
Sure, there are a lot of questions I'd like to ask but I don't knowing that they were probably asked at another time in the past. For that I try to look it up.
06-14-10 | 06:50 AM
#35
50+ lost a lot when it lost the Diegos. It's still a good sub forum with a core group with an incredible base of bike knowledge. There are a few bossy old cows, but that's the way of the world.
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It's all downhill from here. Except the parts that are uphill.
It's all downhill from here. Except the parts that are uphill.
06-14-10 | 07:01 AM
#36
Banned.
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From: Post-partisan Paradise
Bikes: GF Wahoo '05, Trek T1000 '04, Lemond Buenos Aires '07
The diegos go back a long way. They were being phased out as I was getting started (Jan 06). Never sure why the moderators put the kybosh on them.
06-14-10 | 07:56 AM
#39
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From: Ohio
Bikes: Surly Big Dummy, Fuji World, 80ish Bianchi
Stay out of my way at the buffet and we'll get along just fine.
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"Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey
06-14-10 | 08:05 AM
#40
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From: 5200' Boulder, CO Area
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BTW, I think DnvrFox is getting younger the longer he's here. At least less self important. But still, prefacing every other post with "When I started this forum..." is long past its date of expiry.
06-14-10 | 08:29 AM
#41
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From: Crowley, Tx
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Boy, big difference of opinion on that one. All of the self absorbed posting by the Diegos is why I left here for a long time. The whole "pie" thing got very stale after a while too. If a handful of you people want to play inside baseball with each other, you should realize that a LOT of other people will just tune out.
I found myself going for days without even reading the forum after the Diegos took over.
06-14-10 | 08:54 AM
#43
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From: Ohio
Bikes: Surly Big Dummy, Fuji World, 80ish Bianchi
Webb Diego was my hero. 
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"Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey
"Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey
06-14-10 | 09:16 AM
#44
Recreational Commuter
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From: Central Ohio
Bikes: One brand-less build-up, and a Connondale Synapse Carbon Ultegra Disc. A nicer bike than I need, but it was a good deal, so... ;-)
06-14-10 | 09:59 AM
#45
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From: Muscatine, Iowa
Bikes: Bridgestone T700, Colnago International, Cannondale SR and ST 700, BH Vento, C. Itoh Super Light, Schwinn High Sierra
Hmmm.. I'm combatant by nature but I'll try to behave. Now that I've turned 50 (in body not mind), I'm a much kinder, gentler sort. 
Nice to find another place to contribute and all kidding aside, I really do tire of the tit for tat on some of these.
Nice to find another place to contribute and all kidding aside, I really do tire of the tit for tat on some of these.
06-15-10 | 10:51 AM
#47
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https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?628243-Second-Annual-50-Forum-Ride-Weekend-(Official-Thread)
posts #'s 121 ff, especially #143 by Seenoevil, who drove up from Alabama for the event. Other than being cyclists our only pre-ride connection was as readers of the Fifty+ Forum.
06-15-10 | 11:01 AM
#48
Dan J
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From: Iron Mountain, MI
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06-15-10 | 06:06 PM
#49
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Originally Posted by chinarider
The name rings a bell, but I can't remember anything specific.
It sometimes helps to recognize that in addition to the occasional troll post, other people have personalities that have been described as "high conflict," interacting in the mode s/he has refined over years, that seemingly works for that person's needs, and is successful often enough to condition repeat uses. Both varieties of negative interactivity are inevitable in social discussion, given a large enough population engaged in communication; a helpful response may be to recognize early and not participate, or drop out without having to give the last word, depriving the stimulus that would feed an extended exchange. There's nothing worse for some people than to be ignored; ignored regularly, they will look for validation elsewhere.
In other innocuous instances it may be difficult for a recipient to parse non-malicious humor if s/he feels s/he has publicly been called a name. (Won't be as much a problem when online forums eventually transition to video threading.)
TRENTINO
What I called you... Why, what did
I call you?
GROUCHO
I don't remember.
TRENTINO
(With a little chuckle)
Oh -- you mean... worm?
GROUCHO
(Smiling coyly)
No, that wasn't it...
TRENTINO
Was it -- swine?
GROUCHO
(Same attitude as
above)
No... it was a seven letter word.
TRENTINO
(Thinking, then with
a broad smile)
Oh yes! -- UPSTART!
GROUCHO
That's it...
Takes gloves from Trentino's breast pocket and socks him
across the face... and puts them in his own breast pocket.
Trentino becomes apoplectic
TRENTINO
(Spluttering and
stuttering)
Why - er - Mrs. Teasdale - this is
an outrage! This man is impossible...
My course is clear... this means
war...
(Turns to go and turns
and yells to Groucho)
You RUNT!
GROUCHO
I still like UPSTART the best.
What I called you... Why, what did
I call you?
GROUCHO
I don't remember.
TRENTINO
(With a little chuckle)
Oh -- you mean... worm?
GROUCHO
(Smiling coyly)
No, that wasn't it...
TRENTINO
Was it -- swine?
GROUCHO
(Same attitude as
above)
No... it was a seven letter word.
TRENTINO
(Thinking, then with
a broad smile)
Oh yes! -- UPSTART!
GROUCHO
That's it...
Takes gloves from Trentino's breast pocket and socks him
across the face... and puts them in his own breast pocket.
Trentino becomes apoplectic
TRENTINO
(Spluttering and
stuttering)
Why - er - Mrs. Teasdale - this is
an outrage! This man is impossible...
My course is clear... this means
war...
(Turns to go and turns
and yells to Groucho)
You RUNT!
GROUCHO
I still like UPSTART the best.