Old farts win at Mt. Washington
08-21-11 | 10:01 AM
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Old farts win at Mt. Washington
Ned Overand at 56, takes first, Tinker Juarez at 50, takes 2nd.
WAY TO GO !.
https://velonews.competitor.com/2011/...0-crown_188755
WAY TO GO !.
https://velonews.competitor.com/2011/...0-crown_188755
08-21-11 | 11:23 AM
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Ned was the one to beat 20 years ago--Appears he still is.
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08-21-11 | 12:15 PM
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I am not sure but I don't think one can be an "old fart" until about 75 years old. That has always been my standard. In addition to the over 50 forum, maybe there should be an "old fart" forum for old people because at 57, I look 38 and perform like I am 28. Well, maybe an exaggeration but "old fart" and "old school" really aggravate me. You can be an old fart if you want, I will pass gas on that for the time being.
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08-21-11 | 12:24 PM
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I am not sure but I don't think one can be an "old fart" until about 75 years old. That has always been my standard. In addition to the over 50 forum, maybe there should be an "old fart" forum for old people because at 57, I look 38 and perform like I am 28. Well, maybe an exaggeration but "old fart" and "old school" really aggravate me. You can be an old fart if you want, I will pass gas on that for the time being.
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As far as "old Farts" - for once I agree with LC - not 75 - maybe 85, maybe never. At least 10 years older than one's current age, no matter the age.
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08-21-11 | 04:42 PM
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90% of success is just showing up! I guess the younger faster guys had other things to do that day, like the Vuelta or the US Pro Challenge. lol But really those two guys have been at the top for so long they really are something special.
08-21-11 | 04:59 PM
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I always cheer for Ned Overend because he has a great surname for a mountain biker (my wife still does not believe that's his real original name) and because my mountain bike was built by Schwinn when they were sponsoring him.
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08-21-11 | 06:47 PM
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OLD FART AND PROUD OF IT! And greatly impressed, encouraged, and inspired by the race result!
Remember, old fart is a state of mind. I'm proud to be considered an old fart and on occasion dropping some of those that think that of me.
Remember, old fart is a state of mind. I'm proud to be considered an old fart and on occasion dropping some of those that think that of me.
08-21-11 | 07:24 PM
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08-21-11 | 07:29 PM
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I was impressed that age was not as much a factor in this case as experience, tactics and conditioning. The conditioning part is a result of both Ned and Tinker being extremely gifted athletes that stayed in top shape. Granted that they can no longer compete at the same level as 20-30 yr olds on the Pro mt. biking level, but in this case - an 8 something mile steep hill climb, the age factor was somewhat minimized.
Possibly as well there were no (or fewer) world class road cycling athlete's at this years race, not sure though. As example, the record is held by Tom Danielson, who placed 11th in the 2011 TdF, and wasn't here at NH this year.
In any case, I can guarantee that all those 20, 30 and 40 yr old's that watched these two guys ride away up the hill, were totally aware that they got beat by a bunch of old farts. And for anybody at that age, someone 10 years older will always be an old fart.
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08-21-11 | 09:18 PM
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Kudos to them on the win.
On the issue of who shows up- that's kind of an involved question. On the one hand, the winner was about 5-1/2 minutes over the record, so you'd have to think that there's probably a lot of pro riders that could win the event if they were only there. But on the other hand, you don't hand out trophies based on what people could have done if only they had entered. I could go around saying "Well, I could have won that if I had entered, but I just didn't want to" and that just doesn't count for much.
On the Old Fart business- I've been tempted to try to define exactly which ages correspond to Codger, Coot, Fogey, and Geezer. Sort of like Freshman, Sophomore, Junior, Senior, only at the other end of the age scale. So if someone calls me an old coot, I can say "How dare you! I'm just now a codger, and have 3 years to go before 'coot'!"
On the issue of who shows up- that's kind of an involved question. On the one hand, the winner was about 5-1/2 minutes over the record, so you'd have to think that there's probably a lot of pro riders that could win the event if they were only there. But on the other hand, you don't hand out trophies based on what people could have done if only they had entered. I could go around saying "Well, I could have won that if I had entered, but I just didn't want to" and that just doesn't count for much.
On the Old Fart business- I've been tempted to try to define exactly which ages correspond to Codger, Coot, Fogey, and Geezer. Sort of like Freshman, Sophomore, Junior, Senior, only at the other end of the age scale. So if someone calls me an old coot, I can say "How dare you! I'm just now a codger, and have 3 years to go before 'coot'!"
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08-21-11 | 10:16 PM
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I don't have the least bit of problem with being called an old fart or geezer or any other silly reference to being older. These terms are almost always used in a lighthearted, joking manner. Of course, I would not like hearing them used in a hateful manner, but then, I would not like hearing someone call me by my own name in a hateful manner.
Way to go, Ned and Tinker! Way to show 'em what an old fart can do.
Way to go, Ned and Tinker! Way to show 'em what an old fart can do.
08-21-11 | 10:55 PM
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I don't have the least bit of problem with being called an old fart or geezer or any other silly reference to being older. These terms are almost always used in a lighthearted, joking manner. Of course, I would not like hearing them used in a hateful manner, but then, I would not like hearing someone call me by my own name in a hateful manner.
Way to go, Ned and Tinker! Way to show 'em what an old fart can do.
Way to go, Ned and Tinker! Way to show 'em what an old fart can do.
08-22-11 | 08:13 AM
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