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04-20-12 | 11:48 AM
#51
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From: Blueberry Capital of the WORLD, NJ
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How does liking another's post suggest that you are a loser?!? Any other person's philosophy cannot make anyone else's less valid. It is simply a point view-nothing more, nothing less.
This thread has me very confused...
04-20-12 | 12:04 PM
#53
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From: Nederland, Texas
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Yeah, I guess your right... I was starting to get this weird geeky dirty old man vibe going. I need to go for a long bike ride. I've been working so much haven't had time to ride...
04-20-12 | 12:51 PM
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Everyone is entitled to choose how they live. It's just that some of us have chosen a partner who shares similar interests and whose company we enjoy. If you can't bear to be with your partner for extended periods, that's you choice and so be it. But don't be surprised when others arc up when you make derisive comments about the alternative.
04-20-12 | 01:52 PM
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This is the most pitiful straw man. Nobody has made a derisive comment, and nobody has suggested they can't stand to be with their partner for extended periods. The debate was between one who wanted to do everything as a couple, and others who prefer to pursue some interests independently. Nobody is helped by you caricaturing their position, so I suggest you stop trying to cause trouble.
04-20-12 | 04:11 PM
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I'm not name-calling. A straw man is a logical fallacy in which the protagonist sets up a position his antagonist has not taken, and then demonstrates that it's untrue. In other words, he defeats an argument that has never been made. That's what Rowan did in the passage I quoted.
04-20-12 | 09:25 PM
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I can relate to BBW. Years ago, my wife, before we were married, asked for a road bike so we could go riding together. As I recall, that was her idea. That lasted about 1 summer. Then when we got married we bought a tandem and toured the UK with it. She said she enjoyed it, but then seemed to gradually lose interest after we returned home. A few years ago, after we had moved to a home located on a gravel road, she asked for a mountain bike. She never rode it much -- maybe once or twice last year, for less than 10 miles total for the summer.
Last summer I dug out the tandem, tuned it up, etc., and asked her if she wanted to go for a ride. We went on one short ride, the first one in years. After that I asked her a couple of times if she wanted to go for another ride, but she always said no, so I dropped the subject. Then, last week, I asked her if it was okay if I sold the tandem since we almost never ride it. Her answer was, "no". She said that she liked the idea of having the bike(s) even if she doesn't ride them.
So she has 3 (2.5?) bikes that she seldom rides, while I ride most days year round. I'd say that neither of us really understands the other's philosophy (basically, "moderation in all things" vs. "too much is not enough"), but we each tolerate the others viewpoint. Well, most of the time, anyway.
Last summer I dug out the tandem, tuned it up, etc., and asked her if she wanted to go for a ride. We went on one short ride, the first one in years. After that I asked her a couple of times if she wanted to go for another ride, but she always said no, so I dropped the subject. Then, last week, I asked her if it was okay if I sold the tandem since we almost never ride it. Her answer was, "no". She said that she liked the idea of having the bike(s) even if she doesn't ride them.
So she has 3 (2.5?) bikes that she seldom rides, while I ride most days year round. I'd say that neither of us really understands the other's philosophy (basically, "moderation in all things" vs. "too much is not enough"), but we each tolerate the others viewpoint. Well, most of the time, anyway.
04-22-12 | 03:36 AM
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It's remarkable how many men (sorry to be sexist, but in my experience it is usually men) try to turn their spouse/girlfriend into a female version of themselves. They like cycling, they try to push her into liking it too. They like golf, they buy her some lessons she doesn't want.
Maybe the only reason she says she wants to ride her bike is that she is trying to please you. It certainly sounds as if you might be forceful enough to elicit that response. I suggest you back off, leave the bikes where they are and enjoy the fact that you and she have different and separate interests. God knows it would be terrible to have to do everything together...
Maybe the only reason she says she wants to ride her bike is that she is trying to please you. It certainly sounds as if you might be forceful enough to elicit that response. I suggest you back off, leave the bikes where they are and enjoy the fact that you and she have different and separate interests. God knows it would be terrible to have to do everything together...
This is the most pitiful straw man. Nobody has made a derisive comment, and nobody has suggested they can't stand to be with their partner for extended periods. The debate was between one who wanted to do everything as a couple, and others who prefer to pursue some interests independently. Nobody is helped by you caricaturing their position, so I suggest you stop trying to cause trouble.
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