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Old 01-08-05, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by pinerider

DnvrFox, I don't consider myself a whiner listener and don't consider you a whiner. I've found this post to be very interesting, especially from the perspective of what a pain in the ass it is to have health problems and how we should all appreciate life more when we don't have them. Your tales of the tests will have me prepared if I ever have similar problems. Thanks!
You are welcome. Thanks for the very positive note.

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Originally Posted by scottogo
Fine whiners improve with age.


As does the "Bouquet."
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Well why not!
"I'm 57 years old and am starting training for my first century." Actually the goal is 3 centuries this spring/summer. Mar 6 (a flat one) Ap 24 (4300'gain) and July 25 (5000'gain). I rode about 50 mi per week for the last 9 months and probably have a good base.
"What do I need to do to get ready?"
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Just today, a new member has posted in the thread "Harrowing . . . " that "Interestingly, long-distance cyclist and marthoners are four times more likely to develop afib."

Seems to me this is pretty bicycle specific, and important info for us all to know!
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DnvrFox- glad your back - Can't keep and old broken down 'POSITIVE thinking' 50+ year old down can ya!!!!!!! Reading this forum keeps me positive about biking till my 90's and beyond (god willing)!
Yea Ha - Off to an afternoon Ride!
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Originally Posted by johncc48
Well why not!
"I'm 57 years old and am starting training for my first century." Actually the goal is 3 centuries this spring/summer. Mar 6 (a flat one) Ap 24 (4300'gain) and July 25 (5000'gain). I rode about 50 mi per week for the last 9 months and probably have a good base.
"What do I need to do to get ready?"
Thanks.
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The base is there. If you do much more than 50 at a stint, then you'll be up to a hundred. Incidentally do you mean the Metric which is 65 miles or the true 100 miles?

A flat 100 will give you a bit of training for the next one that will take in a few slopes. Hills are not a problem providing you do not race them. Take then steady, change down to keep the cadence up, and if you run out of gears slow down.

Before the ride- Carbo load for at least a week before the event. plenty of pasta, rice, sticky buns and also don't cut out the fat content. On the ride, try to have a good breakfast a couple of hours before the start, and munch on your favourite cereal bar/energy food as you go along. Main point is keep up the fluid intake. Personally I would say this is the most important part of the preparation. I take in at least 1 litre per hour and Comfort stops are not taken that often.

Main point is to go out and enjoy the ride. Don't take the first one too fast, and start slowly to work your way in.
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I wish people wouldn't whine about what others want to talk about.
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I believe that knowing how others are dealing with medical problems or aging while still getting out on their bicycle is most useful. Yes, this is not a forum about medical issues, however, their relationship or impact on our bicycling ability is very much an appropriate topic for this forum.

I am very motivated when I see or hear about people whoe are either much older than I am, or who have significant injuries or other medical problems, bicycling frequently and over long distances. At 59 years of age, I now expect to be biking well into my 70s. I would have not believed this even five years ago.
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No, no, this IS the the over 50 whiner forums, please keep all the ****** comments right here. Don't let them spill out to other forums.....

Now lets hear about your latest colo-rectal exam. Especially any details about your doctors' quirky anal-side humor.....

This forum is for all the old guys over 50, who want to act like it.....

Wow, the asterisks above represent the word "tanker" only spelled with a "w".....I had not known it was such a strong word......
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When I returned to bicycling, the fellows at the lbs told me I would have a learning curve, and some of it, the things having to do with my age, they couldn't help me with those because they hadn't lived that long.

I don't mind a learning curve.
I see it as part of the fun.

Some things cost money, though, and I don't mind some timely advice if it will save me money.
Some other things just take an older rider in the wrong direction, health wise.
Who needs that?

I can't say I have learned much from this forum, because I came to it rather late in my learning process.
However, early in my process this forum would have helped.

I sold my car so it wouldn't tempt me.
I now bike about a hundred miles a week, through the rain and the snow, and this spring I hope to get a fixed gear bike and ride it one day a week.

This forum and the experiences of others in my age group encourages me to set goals for myself and to take pleasure in finding ways around the little (and sometimes big) obstacles that aging has placed before me.
Thanks to whoever started this forum.
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Originally Posted by RonH
I get so tired of reading posts that discuss aches and pains and surgery complications and all the meds being taken and "I can't this" or "I can't that"! This is a bicycle discussion forum.
If you're going to ride a bike, there will be soreness and aches and pains in the beginning but it will go away.
If you have "legitimate" back problems - that's allowable. But how many have back problems because of an oversized gut? Get rid of the gut and the back problems will probably go away.
Exercise and weight loss may reduce or eliminate prescribed meds so we can end that discussion.
How do you know you can't ride a road bike or a mountain bike. Bend over and try it.

Now let's get back to the bike discussions.
Gee Ron, you mean like this one?
https://www.bikeforums.net/fifty-plus-50/63378-special-thread-50-yo-bicyclists.html

Scroll down to post #24......it says...

"I have BAD v veins in my left leg. No pain or discomfort, just looks bad. Talked to a vascular surgeon about it two years ago. He said it would require surgery (stripping the veins) and they could come back in another area of the leg. Told him no thanks. Last month I talked to another doc about laser treatment for them. He said the right leg was a candidate but the left leg would require surgery. Same story, same answer.
So I'm still taking the horse chestnut hoping it will stop the spread and keep the vein size and appearance under control.
If you're interested here is link to a picture (not me - found on the web) of what my left leg kinda looks like. https://www.cosmetic-lasersurg.com/_...varicose1_1.jpg"


By guess who? RonH

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Am 72 and rode only 5600 miles in 2004. Kwitcherbellyachin and go ride!
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**** off ron

go start your own thread

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Hey,

Gotta agree. I'll be 58 this year and am still racing - ACA and USCF. Last year I did about 25 races including a 66 miler in the mountains. That one was part of a three event stage race. Did ok. Yeah, aches and pains, but suck it up and enjoy the ride. We have a guy around here who is about 65 or 90 or something like that and he manages time in TT's that would be top 10 in pro 1-2.

If you start doing old people stuff, you'll BE old.

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Originally Posted by Grampy™
Gee Ron, you mean like this one?
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=63378

By guess who? RonH

People that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.....
I wasn't whining or complaining. I was merely stating that I have varicose veins that look bad and commenting on surgery options, meds, and supplements.
Now, WTF is your problem?
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Gee Ron, maybe you're not [Moderator Removed: Personal attack]? Do you think? You still haven't gotten the message and can't let it go can you?

It's obvious people [Moderator Removed: Unkind]are that of a whiny old man and you just can't stand it.

[Moderator Removed: Unkind] Ron...
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Relax Ron. Use a laxative if necessary, but let it go.
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Originally Posted by RonH
I get so tired of reading posts that discuss aches and pains and surgery complications and all the meds being taken and "I can't this" or "I can't that"! This is a bicycle discussion forum.
If you're going to ride a bike, there will be soreness and aches and pains in the beginning but it will go away.
If you have "legitimate" back problems - that's allowable. But how many have back problems because of an oversized gut? Get rid of the gut and the back problems will probably go away.
Exercise and weight loss may reduce or eliminate prescribed meds so we can end that discussion.
How do you know you can't ride a road bike or a mountain bike. Bend over and try it.

Now let's get back to the bike discussions.
Well, as my dad always used to say....

Um...

As my dad always used to say...

Shoot... I can't remember.

I'm too old.

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It seems to me that most threads have a natural "life."

The last previous post prior to today's resurrection was:

03-28-05, 09:14 PM

Do folks go searching through old posts in the hope of finding something to respond to?

I don't understand why resurrect after 8 months.
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Originally Posted by RonH
I get so tired of reading posts that discuss aches and pains and surgery complications and all the meds being taken and "I can't this" or "I can't that"! This is a bicycle discussion forum.
If you're going to ride a bike, there will be soreness and aches and pains in the beginning but it will go away.

Now let's get back to the bike discussions.
Seriously, Ron... what's next? A person can't whine about mechanical problems in the Bike Mechanics forum? Road rash off topic in the Road Bikes forum? What about bad experiences with a LBS? Take it the the BBB! It's not really a biking issue, right? What about all of the discussions that break out here that may not be unique to the over 50 crowd? Should they be allowed? Happy birthday wishes? Out of the question!

C'mon Ron... mellow out. We're over 50. As a result, we have some unique issues that we're faced with and not all pertain to cycling. What's the harm in discussing them? Most, if not all are identified by the subject. Those that are not of issue to you are easily enough passed by.

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Originally Posted by DnvrFox
It seems to me that most threads have a natural "life."

The last previous post prior to today's resurrection was:

03-28-05, 09:14 PM

Do folks go searching through old posts in the hope of finding something to respond to?

I don't understand why resurrect after 8 months.
Drats!... guilty as charged. The topic was highlighted as new, and I just started reading and responding.

Can't tell you how many times I've advised others to read thoroughly before replying

Nevermind, Ron

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Originally Posted by cheeseflavor
Drats!... guilty as charged. The topic was highlighted as new, and I just started reading and responding.

Can't tell you how many times I've advised others to read thoroughly before replying

Nevermind, Ron

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You weren't the one doing the resurrecting. You just appropriately responded.
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I know this thread is supposed to be dead, but I wasn't a member when it died and wanted to make a comment or two.

First off, what was referred to as whining, I call sharing. As we get older, we face different obstacles. I personally get a lot out of this even if it's something different from what I might be going through at the time. It's how we face what's in our way, not what we face. When I was a kid, I thought 40 was over the hill and 50+ pretty grandparently. I feel proud that we can keep up with the young 'uns, even if we "share" our aches and pains a bit more...heck, we have more of them!!! I feel blessed when my youngest daughter says,
"Dad, you're cool, because you do a lot of stuff."

Secondly, hey, the 50+ers are a more select group. We rock, because we were around when Chuck Berry, Elvis, the Everly Brothers, Sam Cooke rocked. We saw the Beatles and Hendrix and the Stones take flight. We saw the first landing on the moon. We got history.
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Originally Posted by KeithA

First off, what was referred to as whining, I call sharing. As we get older, we face different obstacles.
Okay, if it's going to be revived, Vive' the revival. I'm going to take part also.

One thing I have learned is that MOST of us are going to hit some pretty rocky roads along the way.

Those folks who haven't hit them yet tend to think that they are invulnerable and it is because of their life style or their philosophy or their eating habits or whatever that has protected them so far. And they tend to think that those of us who have hit those rocks pretty damned hard have failed to follow whatever magical prescription they have invented and/or practiced, and therefore, it is in some way our fault that we have hit those bumps and they haven't, and they will be protected from those hard bumps because of what they do that they think is different from what we do. (whew, that is one LONG sentence).

I've got news for them.

Their time is coming. Absolutely guaranteed. And when they get there and hit those rocks pretty damned hard, they will want someone to discuss these things with, and if it is bicycling related (as it likely will be) then the discussion may appropriately take place in this group.

And that is GOOD.

It is not the problems we have, but how we face them and either overcome them or adjust to them that is the key. There are some you can not overcome, there are some you can. But how and what you do in those situations is the important factor.

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End of general statement, start of personal example. Those not interested may stop reading here.
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I will just cite briefly my own son, Tim.

On his 21st birthday, almost 20 years ago, Tim was paralyzed from the neck down. No amount of therapy, none of the "miracle" cures that people foisted on us, etc., could get his arms and legs moving again.

Today, without his arms and legs, Tim is a nationally known attorney, fighting for the civil rights of folks with disabilities. He is a Stanford Law School graduate, married to a Yale Law School graduate. A formidable team.

On Monday, he and his wife are flying to New York City to work on a settlement on a disability access case with a nationally known company each of you would recognize. As a result of his and his wife's efforts, thousands and thousands of folks with disabilities will be able to access retail stores across the country, get through their aisles in wheel chairs, etc.

When we flew to Baton Rouge after the accident, as Tim was lying there in the constantly rotating bed, his first words to me were, "Well, dad, I guess I have a few more challenges in my life to overcome."

He never looked back.

It is not the problems we will all have in life, it is how we deal with them. That it the great discussion we can have here.

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