crosswater

Hear, Hear!!

KeithA

DnvrFox,

The story of your son puts things in perspective. He's an inspiration of how it IS what you do with your situation that counts. That's what I like about the 50+ers. Not quitters. Full of life and looking to keep on keeping on regardless of what life brings them.

And, when that "hard bump" comes their way, that attitude will help. When the final bump comes, they will have had a fuller life than most anyone who just sits idly by and watches the years pass.

Again, your son has a strength most never achieve. You must be super proud of him. Stanford and Yale are about as demanding academically as things get.

GrannyGear

Well, Fox, I think you gracefully capped this thread...two kinds of riders, those who've hit an obstacle in riding and in daily life, and those who will. As long as there's some connection to bike content and its not glaringly offensive, shouldn't this forum be fairly open. Seems to me, the only editing of threads and rejecting of people we need do here is to individually not click on something we have no interest in or object to.

When my extended family meets for Thanksgiving shortly, there will be the usual contentiousness--but its a given that we're mutually supportive as well. Maybe the same goes here.

cyclezen

I'm hopin that the 50+ forum is able to hold out and not fall in with what happens in some of the other forums, flaming.
Maybe RonH's view isn't held in agreement by many, then okay, state you're opnion.
Now I don;t happen to agree with RonH, on this for the most part; but its okay that he can bring it up and make us think about what we post. And the idea of keeping it somewhat related cycling seems like a good idea. Hearing/recent D-Fox's recent plight has been a learning experience for me, one I'm grateful to be made aware of and educated about.
Its easy enough to 'pass' on topics that don't interest, so some judicious mousing keeps you away from threads of no interest or perceived whining, or whatever...
There was also a post and reference to this being a place for us old 'guys', well I take it to mean over 50 riders (or those interested to read about what makes us tick) to include whatever female riders are here also. I find that a lot more natural and appreciate the normalcy of its balance.
We are, from conception, one foot in the grave, how and when we actually put in the other foot is usually not within our choice. How we choose to get thru life, one legged, is what this forum is all about.
Having been prodded now to again think about my process thru life, I guess I;m proud to be the 56 yr old I happen to be. Certainly less than perfect, but scratching hard to be the best, most relevant person I can be (according to my terms).
Cycling is a higher form. It extends who we are, contrary to many other things which restrict. Older cyclists are higher forms. We have the ability to balance the life-enducing act of riding with years of learned life experiences. Something younger people, even younger riders, don;t have the benefit of.
If Someone in this forum really feels the need to vent about a hardship, we'll I can live with it even if its not my cuppa.
...back to your regularly schedule program...

stapfam

What an apt way of putting life into perspective. If you can precis that- it should be the motto of the forum

will dehne

Health related information is an important contribution of this forum. We must have it.
DnvrFox made me aware of calcium loss due to excessive biking. He was right. I checked it out independent of this forum.
The delivery of this information should IMHO not be called whining. We are not all accomplished writers and may not package a message to everybody's liking. And that includes this post.

a77impala

I am not going to whine, just tell about a situation I was in. I had chest pains and lightheadedness, went to heart doctor and had $4000 worth of tests, they said my heart was fine, I asked why the pains, they said go back to your GP. I stopped taking another medicine for prostate problems, chest pains and other symtoms went away. I haven't taken anything except aspirin in the last year and feel very good.
Prior to this event I had quit bicycling because of arthritis, when I retired I needed to exercise so I started riding again, rode through the pain and now try to ride 20 miles a day and have no pain. I am 61 and feel better than I have in years.

will dehne

In the same tone as post #57 above, I want to report where this forum helped me.
Someone, I forgot who, posted a problem with his rotator cup in his shoulder. The symptoms were similar to mine. I got concerned because I have a cross country trip scheduled and do not want to do it in pain or under heavy medication.
So, reluctantly I went to a specialist who prescribed therapy and an MRI to see what is going on. BTW, after a day long ride in cold weather, I could not lift a cup of coffee.
The way my brain works, I was going to tough it out. The post on this forum made me change my mind. I will report the outcome. I hope it is not an operation.

seacycle

I don't like the complainers who start off with "I can't..." or "I'm too old...".

Could these people be looking for encouragement and motivation? The kind you can get on a forum like this, maybe? Not everything that looks like whining and complaining is whining and complaining. Except maybe your post.

cyclezen

stapfam, I do love your humor!
as if you haven't already noted that brevity is not a strong suit of mine

jackb

RonH,
It is an over 50s thread, so naturally some people will want to talk about health related issues. So what? If you don't want to listen, don't. In any given conservation, all participants do not necessarily discuss what any one individual prefers. Let people have their say and don't participate if you don't want to.

roscoe50

RonH,
I'm with you on this one bro, nothing pisses me more than someone belly-aching about their sore aching ass, if you want to whine about aches and pains then log on to webmd maybe some one will want to swap some knee replacement stories or maybe something fascinating like a kidney stone that won't pass........woohoo! Come on guys we're all big guys and gals, pain is part of the game

Dchiefransom

If you don't like what's in the threads, then don't read them. Pain is not part of the game to everyone. The rest of the world isn't going to "toe the line" to your version of how things should be.
In the meantime, I know that I have two posters on here that I'll now be waiting to hear the results of their first Ultra-Marathons.

Savas

I once posted about irritable bowel syndrome while on a long ride with no bathroom in sight. He must have loved that post.

DnvrFox

1. One of the purposes of the 50+ forum is to assist and guide 50+ newbies and those returning to bicycling and to ENCOURAGE them in their new and renewed bicycling endeavors. Certainly putting them down for predictable attempts to understand the aches and pain of bicycling is not to anyone's advantage, IMHO.

2. Many of the items discussed have to do with some pretty serious medical problems and their effect upon bicycling - much more serious "than belly-aching about their sore aching ass." Such things as:

* How do you bicycle with a knee and/or hip replacement?

* What can you do if you have or are recovering from a serious heart condition - heart attack, Atrial Fibrillation, bypass surgery, valve replacement?

* How can you compensate for osteoarthritis in your bicycling?

* and other serious conditions.

If none of these has happened to you, they will. Sometime in the future, you will hit a serious roadblock, and will want to discuss it and its effect on bicycling with other like-minded folks.

In the meantime, have some tolerance for others.

From the BFN Home Page description of the Fifty+ Forum:

Share the victories, challenges, successes and special concerns of bicyclists 50 and older. Especially useful for those entering or reentering bicycling.

That is what it is officially all about.

cheeseflavor

Sorry to hear of your predicament, Will. Makes me wonder about a problem I've been having with my right shoulder for months now. Toward the end of a ride, I can barely lift my arm to signal a right turn. Hurts like hell, frankly, but goes away soon after. I just chalked it up to "age" or overwork on the weight bench and was also going to tough it out.

Hope you get better soon. Pain is no fun and you sure don't want to miss any riding time!

Take care,

Steve

will dehne

Steve:
I am trying to share with you. I fell on my shoulder two years ago. (biking)
There was much damage to knees and fingers. To my amazement, I got rid of all damage with just lots of Ibuprofen and light exercise. The MD gave up on me.
I assumed that the much less damaged shoulder would fix it-selves also.
I probably made a mistake of not also exercising this shoulder. It seemed OK until I got it chilled. Now I am worried and will have a MRI Tomorrow.

If you have these symptoms, I suggest also an MRI. This is from a guy who is allergic to the medical community.

Little Darwin

A couple of ideas that only capture part of the spirit of cyclezen's message, but cycling related. Perhaps someone would like a sig/motto...

How about:

One foot in the grave, the other on a pedal...

or:

I gave my pedals names, one foot is in "The Grave" and the other is "Spinning."

This one allows for replacing spinning with something you can personally relate to, like "Hammering," "Touring" or ???

Another variation.

I named one of my pedals, one foot is in "The Grave" the other is not!

Perhaps it reads better by skipping the naming part.

One foot is in the grave, the other is spinning/hammering/touring/not!

Food for thought...

al-wagner

I sounds to me like Ron needs to get LAYED

cheeseflavor

And seriously, what, or who does it hurt if a few conversations break out that are not about cycling per se, but rather life itself? I mean, as we get to know each other, I'd like to think that we can have conversations about many things, and not just bikes and biking issues.

I really would hate to think we need a "50+ Foo" forum...

Steve

Digital Gee

Now that made me laugh. Fifty Foo! I like the alliteration and the hint of eubonics to it.

GrannyGear

Foo?

will dehne

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GrannyGear

Thanks Will...."Foo" is a German word then? German Eubonics? As in "GrannyGear is full of foo". OK, I'll quit "fooing around".

P.S. Gotta go ride. Its a beautiful crisp autumn morning here in wussy weather CA. Pity anybody who's reading this in their office,etc. right now. I got the day off!!!

will dehne

Do you have to rub it in for us poor folks in Chicago area?