I met Boris Spassky in Moscow - sat opposite him at dinner in the early '70s. I suspect the experience didn't affect my IQ.

Some of us over 50’s might remember the movie with CliffRobertson from 1968 called Charly that was adapted from a great book calledFlowers for Algernon by Daniel Keyses. I would highly recommend both. Having recentlywatched the movie again it’s a good flashback to the 60’s you might enjoy andit deals with the IQ topic in an interesting way. I remember reading the bookin High School and then watching the movie at an impressionable age and aroundthe same time we were doing standardized testing and I was also taking anelective class about physiology, and we took and scored IQ tests on each other.I remember knowing each other’s scores of these mock tests and it was amusing watchinghow some students finding out they were a couple points lower than someone theyfigured they were smarter than beat themselves up in the knowledge. I’m sure intoday’s world the teacher would be fired for a curriculum anything close tothis.

At about the same time I was taking a lot of what they thencalled industrial arts classes and a drafting teacher I had a lot of respectfor I remember saying one day that in the real world most of the “A” students endup working for some of the “C” students. The reasoning being the “C’s” werelearning it wasn’t easy and that drive later turns into them becoming thestarting up businesses and putting in the long hours etc. In many cases I haveseen that to hold true in life.

Check out the movie I think you can even find it on line towatch.

The way it was when I was in school:

A students went into academia.

B students became successful businessmen.

C students owned the successful businesses.

since we had a comment about not being relevant to bikes i want to put this in before my next comment:

took my bike to an lbs saturday to be worked on and managed to prove i have an almost single digit score. there.

hopefully i will graduate next year as a teacher and i have taken all these experiences to heart. i thank all of you for helping to enlighten me more.
some 'teachers' and 'educators' (admin staff) should not carry those titles. probably continuing the cycles in which they were 'taught'. berating instead of encouraging.

I remember that I once came up with a fun way to estimate another person's IQ based on observations. I'd give them the benefit of the doubt with a decent starting point and then apply my list of subtractions such as gum chewing, -5 pts; backwards baseball cap, -10; piercings other than one in each ear, -2 each, etc. I can't remember them all now -- any ideas?

Maybe we could apply this to cyclists, such as a -15 for having drop bars mounted upside down. Another that comes in mind are recumbent riders, who get a +10, but only in their own opinions. Sorta like Prius owners.

I'd go with -10 for riders without helmets. And that could change to -75 very quickly.

Last time I took an IQ test I came out at 138. Not proctored and for a class I was taking. It did not count for the grade. I took it while watching TV and did not try for speed. It was only after I finished it and was grading it that I found out speed mattered! (Still scored some speed points).

Most IQ tests are garbage unless monitored by a skilled Proctor.

My mother was a grad student in psychology when I was a child. So I took IQ tests a number of times as a child as a practice for her and other students. I was never given the score.

My brother was a certified Mensa member.

But I've figured out that when it comes to street smarts, social smarts, artistic skills and mechanical skills he's way behind me. I had the hot girlfriend in high school.

the Ultimate answer to the Ultimate question about life the universe and everything is..

https://www.google.com/search?q=the+...hrome&ie=UTF-8

We think we're smarter than the apes. But put even the smartest of us in their environment and see how he would stay alive...

Isn't 'IQ score' redundant? Or am I thinking about recumbents again?

I'm complaining about the integrity of the review process for inclusion of threads in the forum. Obviously, there is none. I'm still waiting for a thread on cats. Or not.

Here you go, there is a guy there you will get along with well. From the C&V Forum:

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ow-me-your-cat

I don't think we have the dentition or arm strength. And our feet don't grip branches very well either.

Sorry about that. There was one, but I moved it. Here ya go:

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...8#post15454188

Agree. The most insufferably boring and self-important people I've ever met have been professed Mensa members.

And those Mensa tests that used to be in the in-flight mags were a hoot. Neat little puzzles. Sometimes maddening.

I also believe intelligence is broader than what is covered on IQ tests. Social, cultural, interactive, inspirational, etc etc.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
... Albert Einstein

IQ, EQ, SQ; I recall the studies say Emotional Intelligence is a much better predictor of success in life than IQ, and I agree.

The point of the post wasn't show me the size of yours, but I should have known...this is the BF. The only relevancy to biking; I was cleaning some C&V parts when I thinking about the era, how much interest there seemed to be in identifying yourself as different from the norm, where now young people want to be identified as part of the norm...or perhaps those that do are the most visible.

However, I did a lunch with a pysch PhD where we talked about cycling, and it left me with the impression roadies and ultra cyclists would probably test out pretty well on IQ tests, something non-conventional about what they find satisfying perhaps...a desire to balance the hemispheres of their brains maybe. Whatever, that's about as creepy as I go.

"I have finally come to the conclusion that a good set of bowels is worth more to a man than any quantity of brains."

- Josh Billings.

Think the IQ test was over rated. We took them as 5th graders never given the scores. No matter how you scored on a test if you can't apply what knowlege you have you will not succeed.

My father... quit school in 8th grade...........built a muli-million dollar company, ran it for 40 years........at retirement sold the business to a guy with years of college education and the business failed 6 months later under his leadership.

Possibly, but there is also evidence that aerobic exercise like cycling can actually increase brain power in both young and old through several different mechanisms. The fact that so many of the cyclists on this forum report high IQs may simply be a matter of self-selection -- or it may support that evidence (or, more likely, both).

Another thing I can say "don't know, dont care" about.

I resemble that remark!

I took the GCT in Marine basic at Parris Island, the duty DI read the scores to the platoon one evening before rack time. I was the highest in the platoon by a ton (20-25 points). As a result, I got my butt kicked a couple of times at PI and again at Camp Lejeune by Marines (or groups of) who seemed to think people smarter than they deserved it. There was a lesson there about keeping my head down.

When there is a significant difference in IQ, and I believe the number is around 30 points... communication can become difficult and this may be seen as boring insufferable in individuals who may not have any elitist tendencies.

Some individuals can learn or are capable to moving a little more seamlessly between different groups despite having this handicap.