Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Folding Bikes
Reload this Page >

Helix Update?

Search
Notices
Folding Bikes Discuss the unique features and issues of folding bikes. Also a great place to learn what folding bike will work best for your needs.

Helix Update?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-30-25 | 12:03 PM
  #2976  
Newbie
 
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 54
Likes: 23
From: Ile-de-France

Bikes: Tern Verge X11 (2021), Helix Ultralight (2023)

Originally Posted by Duragrouch
I just looked on the Helix website, to see what prices are these days. Standard model 10 speed derailleur is just below USD$3k. 11-36 cassette is lame, 327%, given that there is space for more. What is "Hong Kong Spec"? I do a general search online... HAH!:

467% range. Now that's more like it! That yields 24-111 gear inches. Yeah I'd replace the 42 narrow-wide ring with either a 32 narrow-wide ring for 18-85 G.I., or a 34 narrow-wide ring for 19-90 G.I. Or, leave the stock 42 ring on and put on a 10-50 cassette for 20-100 G.I.

A Helix is a lot racier than my 20" folder, so I can see folks wanting higher than 85 gear inches.
The standard Ultralight is 9-34t (e13 XCX 11 Speed). Back when I ordered it, there was not the HK configuration.

Originally Posted by Jipe
I just see that the availability of several accessories is delayed "Mudguards, Travel Case, Rear Rack & Trailer Hitch available Fall 2024." the rear rack and mudguards was announced for shipping in June.
The mudguards and rear rack delivery is now announced for July 1st.


Hrodwolf is offline  
Reply
Old 03-30-25 | 03:24 PM
  #2977  
Senior Member
5 Anniversary
 
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 2,529
Likes: 567
Yes, I also received a mail from Helix announcing that the pre-orders for the rear rack and mudguards were open with now an announced delivery date of July 1st instead of fall 2024 first then June this year.
Jipe is offline  
Reply
Old 04-01-25 | 05:39 AM
  #2978  
Newbie
 
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 54
Likes: 23
From: Ile-de-France

Bikes: Tern Verge X11 (2021), Helix Ultralight (2023)

The announced dates for accessories under development are not reliable.
Once they are in stock, they are shipped quickly.
Hrodwolf is offline  
Reply
Old 04-15-25 | 11:27 PM
  #2979  
Newbie
 
Joined: Apr 2025
Posts: 10
Likes: 4
New to the forum. I have been eyeing the Helix since KS. However had always thought the KS cost was too good to be true, and was willing to pay a premium to receive the bike once it was available at retail.
Then a couple of months ago, decided it was about time now that I have I have seen retail bikes delivered within a reasonable leadtime and accessories becoming available. But then spent ages agonising over which model.
Well, last week finally bit the bullet and placed my order with Helix for the Ultralight Hong Kong spec, travel case, mudguards and rack. Hoping I’ve made the right decision I am now eagerly awaiting delivery. Fingers crossed.
I’ve decided to post on the forum my experience as a retail purchaser as I’ve not seen any recent posts from anyone like myself to help others like me who are on the fence about purchasing a Helix (for good or bad).
Current est. delivery 4-6 weeks. Although I’m pessimistic as I have seen that the case, mudguards and rack is not available till June.
SHUmeister is offline  
Reply
Old 04-16-25 | 03:04 AM
  #2980  
Senior Member
5 Anniversary
 
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 2,529
Likes: 567
Excellent!

There are almost no feedback from people who have bought an Helix without being a Kickstarter backer.
Jipe is offline  
Reply
Old 04-16-25 | 06:01 AM
  #2981  
john m flores's Avatar
Rider. Wanderer. Creator.
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
Community Builder
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 2,934
Likes: 4,187
From: New Jersey

Bikes: Bike Friday All-Packa, Zizzo Liberte, Ozark Trail G.1 Explorer

Originally Posted by SHUmeister
New to the forum. I have been eyeing the Helix since KS. However had always thought the KS cost was too good to be true, and was willing to pay a premium to receive the bike once it was available at retail.
Then a couple of months ago, decided it was about time now that I have I have seen retail bikes delivered within a reasonable leadtime and accessories becoming available. But then spent ages agonising over which model.
Well, last week finally bit the bullet and placed my order with Helix for the Ultralight Hong Kong spec, travel case, mudguards and rack. Hoping I’ve made the right decision I am now eagerly awaiting delivery. Fingers crossed.
I’ve decided to post on the forum my experience as a retail purchaser as I’ve not seen any recent posts from anyone like myself to help others like me who are on the fence about purchasing a Helix (for good or bad).
Current est. delivery 4-6 weeks. Although I’m pessimistic as I have seen that the case, mudguards and rack is not available till June.
Welcome and thanks for posting. Looking forward to updates as I've long been curious about the Helix. Wish it supported wider tire sizes and that there were more tire options for 24" wheels.
__________________
Rider. Wanderer. Creator.
JohnMFlores.com | YouTube: JohnMFlores
Insta: JohnMichaelFlores | Substack: https://followingwyman.substack.com/


john m flores is offline  
Reply
Old 04-16-25 | 06:58 AM
  #2982  
Newbie
 
Joined: Apr 2025
Posts: 10
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by SHUmeister
New to the forum. I have been eyeing the Helix since KS. However had always thought the KS cost was too good to be true, and was willing to pay a premium to receive the bike once it was available at retail.
Then a couple of months ago, decided it was about time now that I have I have seen retail bikes delivered within a reasonable leadtime and accessories becoming available. But then spent ages agonising over which model.
Well, last week finally bit the bullet and placed my order with Helix for the Ultralight Hong Kong spec, travel case, mudguards and rack. Hoping I’ve made the right decision I am now eagerly awaiting delivery. Fingers crossed.
I’ve decided to post on the forum my experience as a retail purchaser as I’ve not seen any recent posts from anyone like myself to help others like me who are on the fence about purchasing a Helix (for good or bad).
Current est. delivery 4-6 weeks. Although I’m pessimistic as I have seen that the case, mudguards and rack is not available till June.
Update: Just checked my customer portal and I have been assigned a Bike #: 3282 and Serial #:[Redacted]
Shame the map in the portal can't be drilled down to see the number of bikes sold to each country. Would have loved to know how many are in the UK.
SHUmeister is offline  
Reply
Old 04-17-25 | 11:16 AM
  #2983  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2022
Posts: 990
Likes: 690
From: California's capital

Bikes: Litespeed Firenze, Spot Acme, Specialzed S Works Pro Race, Davidson Stiletto, Colnago Superissimo

Originally Posted by mingo
Has Helix delivered all the bikes to the original Kickstarter backers at the original backer price?
My order for bike #16## never appeared, my refund never appeared, last communication from them in 2022.

While they continue building bikes, there's a slice of paying customers left in limbo.
Rick_D is offline  
Reply
Old 04-17-25 | 03:31 PM
  #2984  
Senior Member
5 Anniversary
 
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 2,529
Likes: 567
Originally Posted by Rick_D
My order for bike #16## never appeared, my refund never appeared, last communication from them in 2022.

While they continue building bikes, there's a slice of paying customers left in limbo.
When you wrote "My order for bike #16##" do you mean order as Kickstarted backer or pre-order after the end of the Kickstarter campaign?
Jipe is offline  
Reply
Old 04-18-25 | 03:17 PM
  #2985  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2022
Posts: 990
Likes: 690
From: California's capital

Bikes: Litespeed Firenze, Spot Acme, Specialzed S Works Pro Race, Davidson Stiletto, Colnago Superissimo

Originally Posted by Jipe
When you wrote "My order for bike #16##" do you mean order as Kickstarted backer or pre-order after the end of the Kickstarter campaign?
Cripes, so long ago I don't remember.

Learned of it on Kickstarter, ordered later so maybe a preorder. Compounded things by prepaying for the UL upgrade when that was announced.
Yay me.
Rick_D is offline  
Reply
Old 04-18-25 | 03:38 PM
  #2986  
john m flores's Avatar
Rider. Wanderer. Creator.
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
Community Builder
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 2,934
Likes: 4,187
From: New Jersey

Bikes: Bike Friday All-Packa, Zizzo Liberte, Ozark Trail G.1 Explorer

Originally Posted by Rick_D
Cripes, so long ago I don't remember.

Learned of it on Kickstarter, ordered later so maybe a preorder. Compounded things by prepaying for the UL upgrade when that was announced.
Yay me.
Oh my that sucks. They did not treat their early supporters well at all. I wonder how many people are in a similar boat as you?
__________________
Rider. Wanderer. Creator.
JohnMFlores.com | YouTube: JohnMFlores
Insta: JohnMichaelFlores | Substack: https://followingwyman.substack.com/


john m flores is offline  
Reply
Old 04-18-25 | 11:34 PM
  #2987  
Highly Enriched Driftium
5 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
 
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 6,703
Likes: 2,173
I don't know much about the whole kickstarter thing, but if they fully paid for the bike, including upgrade, it sounds like Helix owes them a bike. If their early price is causing Helix to blow them off, that's not cool and possibly actionable. I don't know how things went once production started and subsequent pricing.
Duragrouch is offline  
Reply
Old 04-19-25 | 03:16 AM
  #2988  
Senior Member
5 Anniversary
 
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 2,529
Likes: 567
Backing a Kickstarter project is giving money to the project owner to help him realize his project, not buying a product, there is no buyer protection.

The perk announced for the backers is a reward for their gift. There is no obligation for the project owner to give the perk to the backers nor to refund the money, even if the project is successful (and for Helix, since the project was about producing a titanium frame folding bike for much less than anybody else, since it was proven that it wasn't possible to produce Helix at the price announced in the Kickstarter campaign, its possible to claim that the project failed to justify that all backers didn't receive their perk even if Helix was eventually produced).

Unless it can be proven that the project is fraudulent (for instance that the project owner didn't really tried to realize his project and just took the money), backers cannot complain if they do not receive any perk.

Pre-orders are different, its a sale, with all buyers protection like for anybody buying any product online.
Jipe is offline  
Reply
Old 04-19-25 | 03:33 AM
  #2989  
Highly Enriched Driftium
5 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
 
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 6,703
Likes: 2,173
(above) Thanks for the explanation, Jipe.

Regarding them prepaying extra for the ultralight upgrade, I'll be interested if that constituted a sale.
Duragrouch is offline  
Reply
Old 04-19-25 | 04:56 AM
  #2990  
Senior Member
5 Anniversary
 
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 2,529
Likes: 567
Pre-order is a sale.

But a sale from a Canadian seller to a US customer, don't know what are the rules and buyers protection for such a international sale?
Jipe is offline  
Reply
Old 04-19-25 | 01:58 PM
  #2991  
Newbie
 
Joined: Apr 2025
Posts: 10
Likes: 4
I’d like to think that the majority of kickstarters fail due to the owner’s naivety in planning how much money is required to startup a business, particularly cash flow. I’ve seen many mature businesses fail just for that reason alone because they have been too ambitious in chasing an opportunity or winning a job.
I’m an optimist and would like to believe that Peter (owner of Helix?) will slowly honour the KS investors and pre-orders as more retail units are sold and cash is realised for refunds etc.
If we assume each unit is sold at 30% margin (est. conservative side). And taking standard RRP of $3000. Then for every bike sold, only $900 cash is generated, which means at least 2 retail bikes needs to sold to fulfil every KS or pre-order, that’s excluding any loans to pay back equipment lease or purchase.
From what I can see, Helix as a company isn’t a mom and pop shop in the back of someone’s shed with low overheads.
When I do receive the bike, it will not be my first titanium bike. My allroad titanium bike with carbon wheels costs significantly more and is not that much lighter to be honest. Although I have travelled abroad with it a few times. It’s still not that convenient. Takes about a couple of hours to pack properly (I take great care when packing &#128517 and the bike box takes up a lot of room. Definitely takes more planning regarding transport at the other end. I am hoping that with the Helix, I am able to participate in more 100 mile+ rides abroad with far less planning as I can just use up one of my two luggage allowances and spend less time packing up between uses.
SHUmeister is offline  
Reply
Old 04-19-25 | 07:17 PM
  #2992  
Highly Enriched Driftium
5 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
 
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 6,703
Likes: 2,173
Originally Posted by Jipe
Pre-order is a sale.

But a sale from a Canadian seller to a US customer, don't know what are the rules and buyers protection for such a international sale?
If it's already a sale, Helix would be wise to get it fulfilled while they can argue that any new tariff should not apply because it was already sold. Helix should also endeavor to maintain a good reputation. Late, we can understand, the bike appears to be a helluva achievement, a big lift. And with the manufacturing videos I have seen of multiaxis laser cutting and welding with robotic torch and fixturing, it's not mom and pop. But just follow-thru with everyone that has paid for a bike.
Duragrouch is offline  
Reply
Old 04-20-25 | 07:15 PM
  #2993  
davidhunternyc's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 41
Likes: 4
I live in NYC. I really want to buy one but I can't shell out this kind of money after all of the controversies. I've been around since the beginning of the Kickstarter campaign too. To make the original backers pay additional money for their bikes after all of these years is wrong. The owner used the initial seed money to get the business off the ground in China. Also, I'm still not convinced of the Helix's ergonomics, how the parts fit and work together. At least the Brompton T-Line is tried and true at this point, and I've ridden it. It's crazy, I still consider the Helix in the prototype stage at this moment. Not enough are being made.
davidhunternyc is offline  
Reply
Old 04-21-25 | 04:23 AM
  #2994  
Highly Enriched Driftium
5 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
 
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 6,703
Likes: 2,173
Originally Posted by davidhunternyc
I live in NYC. I really want to buy one but I can't shell out this kind of money after all of the controversies. I've been around since the beginning of the Kickstarter campaign too. To make the original backers pay additional money for their bikes after all of these years is wrong. The owner used the initial seed money to get the business off the ground in China. Also, I'm still not convinced of the Helix's ergonomics, how the parts fit and work together. At least the Brompton T-Line is tried and true at this point, and I've ridden it. It's crazy, I still consider the Helix in the prototype stage at this moment. Not enough are being made.
From everything I've read, the Helix was designed and is built in Canada, I think Toronto, I think I read someone picked theirs up there. No?

I'd say definitely beyond prototype stage, but (to their credit) they have incorporated improvements as they are perfected.
Duragrouch is offline  
Reply
Old 04-21-25 | 05:00 AM
  #2995  
Newbie
 
Joined: Apr 2025
Posts: 10
Likes: 4
Going to visit Toronto in Sept for the Lady Gaga concert. Have reached out to Helix to see if they were willing to let me visit their shop while I’m there. Maybe get some questions answered on behalf of some of the forum members. I’ll hopefully have my bike with me as well🤞.
SHUmeister is offline  
Reply
Old 04-24-25 | 12:13 AM
  #2996  
Newbie
 
Joined: Apr 2025
Posts: 15
Likes: 11
Originally Posted by SHUmeister
Update: Just checked my customer portal and I have been assigned a Bike #: 3282 and Serial #:[Redacted]
Shame the map in the portal can't be drilled down to see the number of bikes sold to each country. Would have loved to know how many are in the UK.
I purchased mine few weeks ago as well
My bike number is #3283 !!
4~6 weeks is the estimate, but I doubt it will be sent so soon.
Fingers crossed
nokondi is offline  
Reply
Old 04-25-25 | 02:26 PM
  #2997  
Newbie
 
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 54
Likes: 23
From: Ile-de-France

Bikes: Tern Verge X11 (2021), Helix Ultralight (2023)

Originally Posted by Jipe
Unless it can be proven that the project is fraudulent (for instance that the project owner didn't really tried to realize his project and just took the money), backers cannot complain if they do not receive any perk.
Even if it's proven, Kickstarter doesn't care because they've already taken their cut.

Originally Posted by Duragrouch
If it's already a sale, Helix would be wise to get it fulfilled while they can argue that any new tariff should not apply because it was already sold.
The sale date doesn't matter. If the new tariffs are in effect on the day the bike crosses the border, the buyer must pay them. That's why some boardgame publishers keep in China the manufactured games, waiting for better days and lower tarrifs.

Originally Posted by Duragrouch
Helix should also endeavor to maintain a good reputation.
Indeed. I discovered Helix years after their Kickstarter campaign. I think they underestimated the engineering difficulty. I don't know what happened, but it seemed difficult for both the company and the backers.
At least they're still operational, which is quite a feat in itself.

Originally Posted by Duragrouch
From everything I've read, the Helix was designed and is built in Canada, I think Toronto, I think I read someone picked theirs up there. No?
I'd say definitely beyond prototype stage, but (to their credit) they have incorporated improvements as they are perfected.
They posted a photo on Instagram of a buyer retrieving an SRAM Red Helix from their office.
It's definitely beyond the prototype stage. I have the 2023 version and have never felt like I was riding a prototype.

Originally Posted by nokondi
4~6 weeks is the estimate, but I doubt it will be sent so soon.
Fingers crossed
You should be fine. My Helix was two weeks late, but it was summer, and their office was closed for about a week or more.
Hrodwolf is offline  
Reply
Old 04-28-25 | 06:32 PM
  #2998  
Newbie
 
Joined: Apr 2025
Posts: 15
Likes: 11
Originally Posted by Hrodwolf
You should be fine. My Helix was two weeks late, but it was summer, and their office was closed for about a week or more.
You were right. Got my fedex notice for shipping. I also got a photo of my bike as well. I should be getting my bike within 2 weeks.
FYI, they have tan-wall version of the ultralight tires, so I had mine fitted with it. I was told it will be added to their shop page soon.

nokondi is offline  
Reply
Old 04-29-25 | 12:39 AM
  #2999  
Newbie
 
Joined: Apr 2025
Posts: 10
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by nokondi
You were right. Got my fedex notice for shipping. I also got a photo of my bike as well. I should be getting my bike within 2 weeks.
FYI, they have tan-wall version of the ultralight tires, so I had mine fitted with it. I was told it will be added to their shop page soon.
No update on mine which is still in production queue.I'm guessing they are making specs in batches.
I did get an update from Ana at Helix who says they don't typically allow the public to visit, but could accomodate me in Sept provided I sign an NDA.

Last edited by SHUmeister; 04-29-25 at 12:42 AM.
SHUmeister is offline  
Reply
Old 05-03-25 | 03:45 AM
  #3000  
Newbie
 
Joined: Apr 2025
Posts: 15
Likes: 11
Originally Posted by SHUmeister
No update on mine which is still in production queue.I'm guessing they are making specs in batches.
I did get an update from Ana at Helix who says they don't typically allow the public to visit, but could accomodate me in Sept provided I sign an NDA.
I just got mine last night. I saw that you've ordered the rack+mudguard. Maybe that's probably the cause of your delay.

Anyway, my impression of the Helix at a glance.

1. Order to delivery was 4 weeks. Ordered on 4th April. Delivered on 2nd May. Pleasant surprise
2. Fold is just beautiful. This is the main reason why I got this bike. Very nice.
3. Front folding fork had a bit of problem. Two parts of the fork weren't aligning properly so the knob had trouble latching on. Ended up re-assembling the parts to make it more tight. Still wobbly so I probably would need to keep an eye out.
4. Seatpost. Yeah.. I don't get this seatpost honestly. I will get a new one down the line.
5. Tiny easywheel. It doesn't have enough clearance from the ground. I will have to find a larger easywheel. I read somewhere 80mm is too much. So I will try 60mm.
6. Ultralight tan-wall tires. Not so tan as I would've liked but it does give the bike a more vintage look. I like it.
7. VERY tight fold. It's nice but it also doesn't have much room for playing around, which in turn limits accessories.
8. Folding. I struggled at first to unfold and fold. Especially with the initial front fork problem. After I got used to it, it takes roughly 20secs. So nice.
9. Limited accessories is rather annoying.
10. There are no squeaks in the folding parts. Like None. So far anyway. My Dahon squeaks here and there but Helix, none. Very nice.
11. I got 11 speedn HK spec. Maybe due to this larger cog, when the knob for the handlebar is at fully released position and you fold, it touches the derailleur/cogs. I found that after you release the handlebar, then tightening just the knob back in will prevent this. I will have to put some protection on the knob.

It's been raining here for 2 days so I didn't get a chance to take it for a ride. Being used to 52t chainring, I don't know how 36t chainring will feel.
Can't wait to take it for a ride.
nokondi is offline  
Reply


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.