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Old 12-06-17, 05:20 AM   #1
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Is it worth buying?

Looking for a reasonably priced folding bike. Have seen a B'Twin tilt 500. Are they any good. From what I have seen, wheels & brakes are really not fit for purpose. If I can upgrade these two items would it be worth a purchase
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How much will you weigh with clothes and any stuff you are carrying? The reason I ask is normally btwin bikes have low weight limits. 100kg minus the weight of the bike which means you are looking at 85kg or less and even someone who weighs 75kg may not be within those weight limits by the time they are clothed and the stuff they are carrying especially if they have added other accessories to the bike.

If you are within the weight limits then I think its reasonable value for the components featured. Which country are you in? If the UK look at the Carrera folding bikes from Halfords which have much stronger frames and better components or maybe the Go outdoor compass folding bike. Seems good value with a cassette based drivetrain.

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The Raleigh Stowaway from Halfords is an excellent buy at 250..7 speed,mudguards ,rack and the handlepost folds to the outside and not the middle so you can leave it adjusted to suit yourself and not lengthen it everytime to fold..All this bike needs is a cassette hub on the back and in my opinion would be the best value one on the market.

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Thanks for the replies & advice. I am resident in France so no Halfords . Decathlon are the only ones who have serious folding bikes. There is no chance of testing one without buying.
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Thanks for the replies & advice. I am resident in France so no Halfords . Decathlon are the only ones who have serious folding bikes. There is no chance of testing one without buying.
No options on Amazon or ebay in France? The bike actually looks quite nice a big step up from their very entry level models but the basic Shimano derailleur and freewheel are a weak point for long term reliability and all weather riding. It looks like a bike designed for fairly light use. Definitely worth checking out before purchase even if you can't test ride it.

The information on frame weight limits is in the manual here.

http://www.btwin.com/notices/wp-cont...5V_EN_PE12.pdf

If you are capable of adjusting and maintaining a bike yourself it may be worth consider getting from a high value box shifter who pretty much operates on a slim margin but can do little more than post the bike to you. You will need to do careful final assembly and all the safety checks.

Good value model below which I believe is available across Europe as someone bought one from Germany and was very pleased with it. Also listed on ebay and amazon. Instead of the low end components of the btwin you get some decent wheels, claris derailleur, casette rather than freewheel and a pretty premium spec for a folding bike. I don't know its weight limits on the frame but will certainly be better than the btwin.

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Old 12-13-17, 10:39 AM   #6
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At that price, why not

Well this one is. It was luck that I over heard a bloke with a camping car mention that he was looking to going electric as he was finding it a bit hard going on his present bike. Long story short but for 80Eu it had to be a bargain & a good entry level for a folding bike. I couldn't believe it was the very same type of bike I looked at in Decathlon a few days ago. Will look at what I can & need to upgrade. Apart for the wheels & brakes , what I didn't notice until I rode it home (15ks) was the need for better handlebars. Will have to look taking into account that the fold is not compromised. Any suggestions?
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Is it the same Tilt 500 you mentioned in the first post. If so if you are changing the wheels then are you planning to change the rear wheel from a freewheel hub to a freehub? Seems a good upgrade, not only will it give you likely stronger wheels and hub but the gears will be more accurate and easy to adjust and you'll have more flexibility with regard gears depending on the 7 speed cassette you fit. Taylors wheels of Germany do good quality 20" double wall wheels included a rear freehub wheel for reasonable money.
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Thanks for the heads up on Taylors wheels, looks very reasonably priced. Working on this bike is a nightmare, all the bolts & nuts I have had to undo & then tighten have had to replace because of the soft metal .
I would hate to encounter a back wheel puncture on this bike out on the road, will have to carry one of those foam gel quick fix jobs .
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Not surprised about the bolts. In another forum I saw comments about the basic single speed Hoptown/Tilt and it was very low end. The bottom bracket didn't fit the bottom bracket shell it was loose and the single speed freewheel was a very low grade indian made freewheel normally found on small children's bikes. Very poor quality and constantly clicking. Considering the bike I think was 130 here in the UK and had no fitted accessories and such a simple drivetrain with no derailleur, shifter etc I think they could have afforded to have used better components. The trouble is many people buy and recommend by brand but the reality is most brands have good and bad bikes and that bike was I feel unacceptable quality for the price. Saying that 130 isn't a lot of money for a bike but you do get competing bikes at the same price point with better components all round.

If you did buy the Tilt 500 with 7 speed gears and hate gripshifters like me you can get a simple tourney 7 speed shifter set for low money from ebay.

Mountain Bike SL-TX30 Thumb Gear Shifter 3x7 Speed Shift Lever Set for Shimano | eBay

Unfortunately they come in pairs with the front shifter as well which you won't need but its cheap money. I have big hands and a strong grip and really don't get on with gripshifters and often find I end up changing gear when I don't want to which can be dangerous.

If you don't change the rear wheel and keep with stock a hardened chromoly rear axle would be a good upgrade. The type often used on bmx bikes. Just means you can eliminate or improve many of the issues with freewheel hubs. By preventing the rear axle getting a slight bend by using a stronger axle you can improve shifting, braking and reduce bearings wear plus have the ability to do pavement drops etc. If you have soft axle nuts you probably have a soft weak axle as well that they are attached to and such low grade components are a liability. A decent rear axle isn't hugely expensive but can make huge improvements to the bike in how it functions and its long term reliability. You don't normally have to upgrade the front axle as there is far less weight on it.
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Thanks again Bonzo B . I am certainly pleased I did not pay for a brand new one at the equivalent of 260. What I have to decide is what to upgrade at what cost & is it really worth it. I haven't folded it down & taken it on a bus/train etc yet. Testing the purpose of this bike will take place when I have peace of mind with using some of the components. Probably change the rear axle for starters. Have to be a mail order as almost all the stuff for this type of bike around here will be the low end.
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A good source of high quality good value chromoly axles in the UK is weldtite but I don't know their availability in France. I'm sure there is a similar company over there. You'll need to measure your existing axle.

Bike Bits | Weldtite

Over here the difference between a high quality and lower quality axle can be as little as a pound.

There are uk companies that I think have free postage to France over a certain value which isn't too high if you are struggling to source in France. Some of the specialist bmx bike shops have the best axles though.
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