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Old 03-02-18, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by odiolalluvia View Post
I don't know why anyone would want to fuss with USB lights.
I don't believe you don't know the answer to this. This thread started as a roadie picking out a Brompton, then somehow we got sidetracked into lighting. So I surmised that if he cared at all about lights (which he never mentioned), he would probably appreciate lightweight USB pieces that are only on the bike when he needs them. And there in lies your answer: Weight. I love my Shimano dynohub with B&M Eye Tec on my Rivendell, but I wouldn't want to lug that stuff around on a folding bike I'll be carrying a lot. For that application, USB is better. You're welcome.
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Old 03-02-18, 06:13 PM
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Weight. I love my Shimano dynohub with B&M Eye Tec on my Rivendell, but I wouldn't want to lug that stuff around on a folding bike I'll be carrying a lot. For that application, USB is better. You're welcome.
No doubt. Those Shimano hubs are heavy af. The SP hub is a way better way to go. So much lighter weight.
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Old 03-02-18, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by tds101 View Post
This is why I rarely post anything nowadays, as the members tend to derail the threads with their own trivial bologna. Ask a question, get nonsensical off topic answers. Ask about Brompton choices, and wind up with debates over lighting that you really couldn't care less about. Ask about inexpensive folders, get recommend a $3000 folder, and also get told that you didn't respect their responses because you're not willing to put a few extra bucks into it.
I try to come here occasionally and actually help a commenter with the thing they actually asked about. I don't know why this concept is so hard for some people to follow.
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Old 03-02-18, 06:53 PM
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I try to come here occasionally and actually help a commenter with the thing they actually asked about. I don't know why this concept is so hard for some people to follow.
Exactly,....this is why I rarely even contribute to making recommendations. I often have answers, but the constant bickering and derailing makes me realize it's best to remain silent. I believe quite a few other members do the same,...it's a shame really. The sense of community is slowly getting destroyed.
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Old 03-02-18, 11:46 PM
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I would think advising someone not to buy a certain feature was fair enough when choosing between different models.
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Old 03-03-18, 05:38 AM
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lol ... Just saw the thread.... I have both of them, chpt3 6spd and Black Lacquer 2spd. Bought last year from Thanksgiving sale with 15% off and free shipping.

I live in bay area. When I go to San Francisco, I used to ride my Titanium Ni edition 6 speed but now I just ride my 2 speed Ti Brompton. (12T/17T) The bike is about 8kg so it is easier for me to carry around the bart stations and cycling up hills in San Francisco.

BTW, I like the Brompton grips because of lightweight. However, I replaced them with Ergon Brooks grips because they caused my hand numbness.
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You own 7 Bromptons? That's impressive! I own one and a clone, and feel pretty small now
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Very cool... I'm thinking of the Brooks grips too. I have a B17 narrow saddle in black and they would match perfectly. Now I just need to decide whether I even want to put the Brooks saddle on there (weighs over 500 grams). It's either that or throw on a Fabric saddle (also a UK brand) that weighs closer to 230 grams...




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lol ... Just saw the thread.... I have both of them, chpt3 6spd and Black Lacquer 2spd. Bought last year from Thanksgiving sale with 15% off and free shipping.

I live in bay area. When I go to San Francisco, I used to ride my Titanium Ni edition 6 speed but now I just ride my 2 speed Ti Brompton. (12T/17T) The bike is about 8kg so it is easier for me to carry around the bart stations and cycling up hills in San Francisco.

BTW, I like the Brompton grips because of lightweight. However, I replaced them with Ergon Brooks grips because they caused my hand numbness.
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Here is the picture of my Black Raw Laquer 2 speed. My chpt3 is on the shelf.
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Originally Posted by Brompton_X View Post
lol ... Just saw the thread.... I have both of them, chpt3 6spd and Black Lacquer 2spd. Bought last year from Thanksgiving sale with 15% off and free shipping.

I live in bay area. When I go to San Francisco, I used to ride my Titanium Ni edition 6 speed but now I just ride my 2 speed Ti Brompton. (12T/17T) The bike is about 8kg so it is easier for me to carry around the bart stations and cycling up hills in San Francisco.

BTW, I like the Brompton grips because of lightweight. However, I replaced them with Ergon Brooks grips because they caused my hand numbness.
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Here is the picture of my Black Raw Laquer 2 speed. My chpt3 is on the shelf.
You cycle SF hills on a 2 speed???? Okay, you are now my HERO! Damn, you must be strong. I've got an 8 speed Bike Friday pakiT and I struggle on anything in the City over around 10 degrees.
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You own 7 Bromptons? That's impressive! I own one and a clone, and feel pretty small now
Actually 18. There are 10 Bromptons from that picture I post.
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Very cool... I'm thinking of the Brooks grips too. I have a B17 narrow saddle in black and they would match perfectly. Now I just need to decide whether I even want to put the Brooks saddle on there (weighs over 500 grams). It's either that or throw on a Fabric saddle (also a UK brand) that weighs closer to 230 grams...
well, Brooks C13 carbon carved weight is about 290g but that's not something I'd recommend because you need a new seatpost or at least different pentaclip for carbon saddle rail. Cost about $30 for the part you can find on ebay. Fabric is a very good brand. I like their saddles.
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You cycle SF hills on a 2 speed???? Okay, you are now my HERO! Damn, you must be strong. I've got an 8 speed Bike Friday pakiT and I struggle on anything in the City over around 10 degrees.
Cycling in San Francisco is very challenging to me. I even modified one of my my Brompton from 2 speed to 4 speed (11T/13T/17T/21T) because of the steepest hills in San Francisco.

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Originally Posted by Brompton_X View Post
Actually 18. There are 10 Bromptons from that picture I post.
Holy cow!!
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You cycle SF hills on a 2 speed???? Okay, you are now my HERO! Damn, you must be strong. I've got an 8 speed Bike Friday pakiT and I struggle on anything in the City over around 10 degrees.
My hero as well!!
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Cycling in San Francisco is very challenging to me. I even modified one of my my Brompton from 2 speed to 4 speed (11T/13T/17T/21T) because of the steepest hills in San Francisco.
That's a mod I'd not heard of before; would you mind giving details of it in a dedicated thread?
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Originally Posted by chagzuki View Post
That's a mod I'd not heard of before; would you mind giving details of it in a dedicated thread?
You can get a kit from Brombacher:
(for whatever reason the link to their Facebook-profile where they offer it get's eaten by the forum for me).
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Saw this, it is 3 speed Sprocket Assy for Brompton External 3-Speed Using 11s cogs - Brombacher
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No, this is 3-speed, we are talking about 4 speed via derailleur.
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the BWR hub driver uses a 9 spline cog, Shimano pattern*, the BSR is still using the old AW3 cog..

Mk3 they went to Sachs, there the 3 by 2 used a thinner 2mm cog, 13t , and a 15t that skipped 3 teeth as shift gates..
did not change the 3 spline interface, just made it wider.. to fit 2..

I've been using a 15t on my Brompton BSR from that parts spares, for years..


* perhaps he crammed on a 4th cog on the BWR Driver.. I guess, There is some serious money in SF

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Mk3 they went to Sachs, there the 3 by 2 used a thinner 2mm cog, 13t , and a 15t that skipped 3 teeth as shift gates..
did not change the 3 spline interface, just made it wider.. to fit 2..
They did not make anything wider. I had the same upgrade on a Sachs-3-speed back in the 80ies and is was an official upgrade for retrofit from Sachs at that time. You can do this with any Sachs 3-speed-hub, possibly since the 70ies.
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Any how Sachs was who Brompton went to when no SA 5 speeds were available to them any more.. AFAIK..

the 15t , 12 full teeth, works with my 3/32 wide Whipperman full bushing chain..
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Originally Posted by chagzuki View Post
That's a mod I'd not heard of before; would you mind giving details of it in a dedicated thread?
I ordered my 4 speed kit from Korea. You can find the info by searching Brombacher_Brompton 4 speed on google. It is on their Facebook page.




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Hub still under 120 mm wide?
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OP here... Still waiting for the bike to arrive at the shop... Debating whether I should just go ahead and upgrade the steel headset from the get-go. Thinking of having the shop order a Chris King black sotto voce one (would match nicely with the black lacquer/black edition). Anyone done this? Worth the money? Or is it just Chris Bling?!? Thanks.
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I would ride the bike first. The headset can be changed at anytime in the futrue. Of course if the $$$ are burning a hole in your pocket go right ahead. Roger
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