Make your small wheel folder ultra stable
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Nice, but it's just for kids.
https://www.thegyrobike.com/faq-s/38.htm
Here's another (classic) approach:
https://www.recodrive.eu/docs/33/flyer_de.pdf
https://www.thegyrobike.com/faq-s/38.htm
CAN I USE THE 12 INCH OR 16 INCH KIDS' GYROWHEEL ON A FOLDING BIKE OR RECUMBENT BIKE?
No, 12 inch and 16 inch kid's Gyrowheel are designed for 12 inch and 16 inch kids' bikes respectively and to accommodate the height and weight specifications of these kids’ bike sizes. Gyrowheel should not be used in any other manor – alone or in conjunction with another device.
No, 12 inch and 16 inch kid's Gyrowheel are designed for 12 inch and 16 inch kids' bikes respectively and to accommodate the height and weight specifications of these kids’ bike sizes. Gyrowheel should not be used in any other manor – alone or in conjunction with another device.
https://www.recodrive.eu/docs/33/flyer_de.pdf
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Well, I wouln't want that, though I'm pretty sure it would fit my Downtube Mini. But I really don't understand how it works, if at all. Gyroscopic force tends to deflect turning rather than resist it; if you try to turn a spinning wheel on one axis, it will tend to turn on another one. So this device would make a bike harder to steer, which would make it harder to control and, therefore, harder to keep upright.... What am I missing?
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Well, I wouln't want that, though I'm pretty sure it would fit my Downtube Mini. But I really don't understand how it works, if at all. Gyroscopic force tends to deflect turning rather than resist it; if you try to turn a spinning wheel on one axis, it will tend to turn on another one. So this device would make a bike harder to steer, which would make it harder to control and, therefore, harder to keep upright.... What am I missing?
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Here is an article that deals with this issue. Look at the diagrams at the last page
https://www.tudelft.nl/live/binaries/...-2bicycles.pdf
Becuase of the high speed turning mass, the Gyrowheel causes the handlebar to turn at a large angle for a smaller lean angle. Kind of amplifying the correction loop.
Kam
WHY DOES GYROWHEEL REPLACE THE FRONT WHEEL OF A BIKE AND NOT THE BACK?
The quick answer to this question is that it is the effect of precession that stabilizes a bike at high speeds, not what people typically think of as a gyroscopic effect. The front wheel acts like a flywheel (a fast spinning, heavy disk). As the bike tips to the side, precession will cause a torque that turns the handle bars toward the direction of the fall. Turning into the fall is how a rider overcomes instability and straightens the bike. At high speeds, the front wheel is spinning very quickly and acts as a big gyroscope. When you start to fall over, it’s the instantaneous turning of the handlebars that rights the bike.
Therefore, a flywheel on the back wheel would have no effect on turning the handle bars, and therefore almost no effect of stabilizing the bike in the way a gyroscope would (what most people think is the effect of Gyrowheel).
However, the precession force is strong enough to turn the handle bars and re-right the tipping bike ("TURN INTO THE FALL!" Is what one should be telling a person learning to ride). Gyrowheel simply amplifies the natural stability that is achieved when riding a bike at high speed (because at higher speed, the front wheel is like a big gyroscope).
The design of a bike is very sensitive to the alignment of the fork (how far over the wheel it hangs) because that affects how “quick” the turning effect is.






