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maderna also makes the "city scooter" with 18" wheels. i like this kind of solution. it's essentially an update of the daewoo shuttle.



this removeable/foldable handlebar stem is most likely a braided steel cable inside a rubber housing with the cable looping or held by a grommet attached to the caliper brake through bolt.



this removeable/foldable handlebar stem is most likely a braided steel cable inside a rubber housing with the cable looping or held by a grommet attached to the caliper brake through bolt.
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#230
The Recumbent Quant

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Bikes: 2012 Cruzbike Sofrider, 2013 Cruzigami Mantis, 2016 Folding CruziTandem
That's really cool.
#233
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That folding touring recumbent has a lot of intelligence built in. Extremely clever.
Those short-wheelbase bikes look scary to me. You have to have a lot of coffee before you ride it, no? What's it like to ride such a short bike?
Those short-wheelbase bikes look scary to me. You have to have a lot of coffee before you ride it, no? What's it like to ride such a short bike?
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#234
The Recumbent Quant

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That being said, while I'm very used to my FWD MBB (front wheel drive moving bottom bracket like my Cruzigami Mantis) bikes, I did try to ride to ride a RWD SWB (rear wheel drive short wheel base) bike and I did find it quite twitchy. I only rode it for 5 minutes and it would have been fine with more time (although you have to worry about your heels striking the front wheel when you're turning sharply at low speed).
#235
looks scary to you because you're not accustomed to it.
a few weeks ago i was visiting my sister down in charleston and i used a beach cruiser to tour around town. i nearly wrecked it a couple of times because i wasn't used to the b-i-g w-i-d-e handling and needing a 3 + meter radius to make a u-turn.
characteristics, man. characteristics...
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#236
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Charles, I'm reading several of your posts about that bike on your blog. Fun!
The only small wheeled bike I have is a Raleigh Twenty. I shortened the rake of the fork by bending it back a bit, following rhm's advice. I can't say I noticed the difference, but I didn't do careful before and after tests.
smallwheeler, you're right, that it depends on what you're used to. When my daughter tried my Twenty, the short turn radius fooled her, and her reaction was to say that it did NOT make sharp turns very well. Of course, she really meant that it DOES but her interpretation indicates her unaccustomed-ness.
The only small wheeled bike I have is a Raleigh Twenty. I shortened the rake of the fork by bending it back a bit, following rhm's advice. I can't say I noticed the difference, but I didn't do careful before and after tests.
smallwheeler, you're right, that it depends on what you're used to. When my daughter tried my Twenty, the short turn radius fooled her, and her reaction was to say that it did NOT make sharp turns very well. Of course, she really meant that it DOES but her interpretation indicates her unaccustomed-ness.
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#238
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And the cargo weight lowers center of gravity. Freekin' brilliant.
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#239
The Recumbent Quant

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Here's a homemade example of low carrying cargo:
He recently took a short trip of only a couple thousand miles with this setup.
He has previously ridden a similar bike around the world.
He recently took a short trip of only a couple thousand miles with this setup.
He has previously ridden a similar bike around the world.
#240
Here's a homemade example of low carrying cargo:
He recently took a short trip of only a couple thousand miles with this setup.
He has previously ridden a similar bike around the world.
He recently took a short trip of only a couple thousand miles with this setup.
He has previously ridden a similar bike around the world.
#241
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From: York UK
Bikes: 2X dualdrive Mezzo folder,plus others
Ok handling despite short wheelbase.
When you first pedal you get tourque steer to the drive side. You get use to this quickly.
It pops wheelie uphill if you get out the saddle , or if you acceletrate quickly in sitting
You need to find a way of getting a forward areo postion on longer fast rides. I held to stem and tucked a bit.
Carefull on front brake.
Careful on poping up curbs keep weight on front, don't pull up to high.
You could english bunney hop it really high and spin it in the air quickly. Wheelies difficult.
Having said all this its so easy to dismount if you get it wrong. Never really had a problem despite a 10 mile commute.
#242
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From: Olney Illinois USA
Bikes: to many
how you like this one :-)
Jetstream XP with German A Kilo fork and German A rear air can, Formula hydraulics, Sram XO derrailleur, lower front sprocket ( 48 teeth ) real nice wheels with 20x 2.15 Big apples, Carbon Handlebar, bar ends, seatpost, Brooks saddle ...
:-)
Thor



Jetstream XP with German A Kilo fork and German A rear air can, Formula hydraulics, Sram XO derrailleur, lower front sprocket ( 48 teeth ) real nice wheels with 20x 2.15 Big apples, Carbon Handlebar, bar ends, seatpost, Brooks saddle ...
:-)
Thor
#245
I had a dawooe shuttle so here goes...
Ok handling despite short wheelbase.
When you first pedal you get tourque steer to the drive side. You get use to this quickly.
It pops wheelie uphill if you get out the saddle , or if you acceletrate quickly in sitting
You need to find a way of getting a forward areo postion on longer fast rides. I held to stem and tucked a bit.
Carefull on front brake.
Careful on poping up curbs keep weight on front, don't pull up to high.
You could english bunney hop it really high and spin it in the air quickly. Wheelies difficult.
Having said all this its so easy to dismount if you get it wrong. Never really had a problem despite a 10 mile commute.
Ok handling despite short wheelbase.
When you first pedal you get tourque steer to the drive side. You get use to this quickly.
It pops wheelie uphill if you get out the saddle , or if you acceletrate quickly in sitting
You need to find a way of getting a forward areo postion on longer fast rides. I held to stem and tucked a bit.
Carefull on front brake.
Careful on poping up curbs keep weight on front, don't pull up to high.
You could english bunney hop it really high and spin it in the air quickly. Wheelies difficult.
Having said all this its so easy to dismount if you get it wrong. Never really had a problem despite a 10 mile commute.

it's a very enjoyable ride. i've imagined it would be fun to "upgrade" to 349 wheels. maybe a 3 speed hub. some primo comets or other similar skinny slicks. a lighter, more efficient crankset- maybe sugino track cranks. bullhorn bars.. what do you think?
#248
Banned
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From: Olney Illinois USA
Bikes: to many
#249
#250
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Joined: Apr 2012
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Likes: 6
From: Ontario, Canada
Bikes: Helix, Brompton, Rivendell, Salsa, and a Partridge in a Pear Tree







