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Old 10-05-25 | 07:52 PM
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Contact John Thompson on the site as he was a builder at Trek during those years. He could also probably tell you who built that frame. I believe theres another member or two who also worked at Trek during those years that are active on the site. He used to be local to me when I lived in Wisconsin and referred me to Doug when I inquired about my interest in taking a framebuilding course.

As for the additions you want to add to your frame. Why the front derailleur tab? I found these to be restricting on chainring sizes, choice of derailleurs. I added one onto the 3rd frame I built and absolutely regretted it. I changed cranks to ones with rings sized to something found on a cyclocross bike which I find more usable and couldnt lower the derailleur enough to work with that setup. I would honestly spark up my torch and remove the tab but since it was powder coated removing the coating is such a hassle I hung the frame up years ago and haven't touched it since.
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Old 10-05-25 | 08:55 PM
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As for the additions you want to add to your frame. Why the front derailleur tab? I found these to be restricting on chainring sizes, choice of derailleurs. I added one onto the 3rd frame I built and absolutely regretted it. I changed cranks to ones with rings sized to something found on a cyclocross bike which I find more usable and couldn't lower the derailleur enough to work with that setup. I would honestly spark up my torch and remove the tab but since it was powder coated removing the coating is such a hassle I hung the frame up years ago and haven't touched it since.
I have ridden Shimano groups and I have ridden Campagnolo groups from the era. I enjoyed those set ups but the mixed groups never worked out well for me. I was always missing gears. I was hoping that on this re-build that I could find one set that worked out well.

The Neuvo Record set was too sloppy for me, lots of fiddling with the spring tensioners to keep that set working smoothly bugged me and was time consuming if I just wanted to hop on it and ride. The Super Record set that I rode worked out well and I never had as many issues as the NR set. Croce D'aune was always too expensive and costs too much today. I haven't decided to put Record or Super Record yet but I have a starting point now.

Earlier in this thread I was asked to decide on a rear sprocket and I think that I plan going to a 7spd if the frame can be stretched.

The Trek 710 was bar end shifters when I got it and I always hated those if I needed to get out of my seat and my knees would always hit the shifters

My old SR front derailleur managed a 2 gear front but can it manage a 7 gear rear?. I don't remember any issues.
My old SR brakes were great.
Is the SR headset even available for my frame?
Is the Record headset and bottom bracket even available for the frame?

At this point I know that I can likely mix and match an all SR/Record Campagnolo group.

The bike is what I have and I will try to make it work.

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Old 10-05-25 | 09:03 PM
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Contact John Thompson.
John is the "Z" on my frame.
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Old 10-05-25 | 10:57 PM
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The Trek 710 is a great bike. I recently had Mark Nobilette modify mine with braze on center pull mounts and had him replace the brake bridge with a curved fender mount. I had it powder coated by Groody Bros., it came out fantastic.
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John is the "Z" on my frame.
This is very cool.
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Old 10-06-25 | 04:50 PM
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Why the front derailleur tab? I found these to be restricting on chainring sizes, choice of derailleurs. I added one onto the 3rd frame I built and absolutely regretted it.
I agree. About the only place where a frame-mounted front derailleur tab is warranted is if the frame has non-round tubing that a clamp mount would not fit.

I remember one of the 753 frames we built at Trek, where the buyer insisted on a braze-on front derailleur mount. He was insistent, so we did it. The frame came back a few months later. He had a bad shift on the front derailleur where the chain jammed, and the derailleur mount twisted and punctured the seat tube like a can opener. The brazing held, though!
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I agree. About the only place where a frame-mounted front derailleur tab is warranted is if the frame has non-round tubing that a clamp mount would not fit.

I remember one of the 753 frames we built at Trek, where the buyer insisted on a braze-on front derailleur mount. He was insistent, so we did it. The frame came back a few months later. He had a bad shift on the front derailleur where the chain jammed, and the derailleur mount twisted and punctured the seat tube like a can opener. The brazing held, though!
i hope you folks added the braze-on derailleur mount to the seat tube before the seat tube was assembled into the frame. otherwise, it’s a recipe for disaster.
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Old 10-06-25 | 07:29 PM
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Thanks for the input John and Richie,

I will adjust my searches for clamp-on front derailleurs.

I had a braze-on added to my Carlton Reynolds 531 and never had any issues. I likely rode 1500 miles or more on that frame. Maybe the bad Shimano/Dura Ace and Campagnolo component issues that I experienced might have saved things from going really bad.

I know that the C-Record, Record and Super Record groups all had clamp-on front derailleurs available so I will look for them.

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Old 10-06-25 | 07:52 PM
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My intention for this frame and build, I am not trying to get another 1500 or more miles out of it nor do I intend that it would be a daily ride. I have a Trek Roam-E for that as well as a Specialized Allez to ride. My goal is a bike to take on occasional rides and look at it for what it is. It is a 40+ year old bike that has made it this far. I figured I would spice it up a bit and again, enjoy it for what it is.

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