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08-24-15, 12:28 PM
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Nice. But I didn't post that. Is that what you read from me? BUT... if you examined FBinNY post.... you'd read that what were really discussing isn't just one or two beers.... but a small inactive person drinking several beers.
And that's the problem with addictive substances! They are surrounded with rationalizations and lies... particularly to ones self. It is NEVER anything but foolish to drink/drug and drive/cycle. If for some reason your mind can convince you that something that simplistic isn't true... it is time to reevaluate your thought processes. It doesn't mean your an alcoholic. But it is something to think about.
Oops! I just saw the latest post. Apparently I was mistaken about the "numbers" of beverages being important. It's the frequency.
And that's the problem with addictive substances! They are surrounded with rationalizations and lies... particularly to ones self. It is NEVER anything but foolish to drink/drug and drive/cycle. If for some reason your mind can convince you that something that simplistic isn't true... it is time to reevaluate your thought processes. It doesn't mean your an alcoholic. But it is something to think about.
And that's the problem with addictive substances! They are surrounded with rationalizations and lies... particularly to ones self. It is NEVER anything but foolish to drink/drug and drive/cycle. If for some reason your mind can convince you that something that simplistic isn't true... it is time to reevaluate your thought processes. It doesn't mean your an alcoholic. But it is something to think about.
Oops! I just saw the latest post. Apparently I was mistaken about the "numbers" of beverages being important. It's the frequency.
And that's the problem with addictive substances! They are surrounded with rationalizations and lies... particularly to ones self. It is NEVER anything but foolish to drink/drug and drive/cycle. If for some reason your mind can convince you that something that simplistic isn't true... it is time to reevaluate your thought processes. It doesn't mean your an alcoholic. But it is something to think about.
08-24-15, 12:29 PM
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I very rarely carry a beer on my bike (I have done it) but I frequently include a stop somewhere that serves beer. That way the beer doesn't get shaken up or warmed up too much.
I have zero hesitation riding after one or two beers.
I have zero hesitation riding after one or two beers.
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I'm somewhat all business when out riding, so I don't think I would want to stop and finish off a whole beer. Now after a ride, on a really hot day, I do enjoy a beeronade (2/3 beer, 1/3 lemonade over crushed ice).
08-24-15, 12:34 PM
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08-24-15, 12:35 PM
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Yes, there's a slippery slope of self-rationalization, especially for those who tend to become addicted to various things, but most people are capable of navigating slippery slopes reasonably well.
In Cozumel, where I live part time, alcohol is part of daily life, and most people enjoy a beer or mixed drink on a regular basis. But there's a wide gulf between the casual drinkers who can manage themselves quite well and those who routinely drink to excess (especially USA tourists). Interestingly, there are very few in the wide area that separate the two.
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08-24-15, 12:36 PM
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It isn't political. Nor a debate. There is NOT anything wrong with having a beer! I am sure FBinNY is correct. Nothing wrong with having a couple beers before driving... it is legal. And unless your an inactive lightweight you might be able to have THREE.
But who on Earth thinks like that? We all know people who think like that! We're all adults here. There is no other point to be made.
But who on Earth thinks like that? We all know people who think like that! We're all adults here. There is no other point to be made.
08-24-15, 12:42 PM
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MAYBE here in America..... automobile manufactures having been conspiring with police to cover-up all the deaths caused by car defects. And they blame harmless drinking in the process.
We should all learn from the third worlds sophistication and restraint from drugs... as well as their efficient law enforcement.
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08-24-15, 12:50 PM
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It isn't political. Nor a debate. There is NOT anything wrong with having a beer! I am sure FBinNY is correct. Nothing wrong with having a couple beers before driving... it is legal. And unless your an inactive lightweight you might be able to have THREE.
But who on Earth thinks like that? We all know people who think like that! We're all adults here. There is no other point to be made.
But who on Earth thinks like that? We all know people who think like that! We're all adults here. There is no other point to be made.
08-24-15, 12:56 PM
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That caused me to LOL.
08-24-15, 03:01 PM
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Regardig the original question- Once I had a beer after biking and before playing ultimate frisbee. My head pounded a bit from dehydration, even while drinking some water.
Anyway, the point is, if it's a proper ride, that it's much more pleasurable to save the beer for after the ride.
Anyway, the point is, if it's a proper ride, that it's much more pleasurable to save the beer for after the ride.
08-24-15, 03:17 PM
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If you need to pause your cycling to have a drink or drug so as to enhance your enjoyment.... you have a problem.
08-24-15, 04:59 PM
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Japan, Beer vending machines... Genius.
But a cold one for lunch on a hot day, sitting on the edge of the road after jumping into a volcanically heated lake from the guard rail...bliss.
But a cold one for lunch on a hot day, sitting on the edge of the road after jumping into a volcanically heated lake from the guard rail...bliss.
08-24-15, 05:11 PM
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Ok I like the debate, Magic hat#9 it is. farted around the house most of the day,I was ready for a cold one and also wanted to hit the woods for a while. So into the hydro pack it goes. And to the park we go. Single track all of the way to the top of the hill and ride along the back to a quiet area. The gun range was getting used and prefer not to hear the shooting. Sit on a log and enjoy one beer and enjoy the solitude. I weigh 280 so one wasnt that bad. I just tooled along the trails enjoying the time. Actually I drank the correct beer for the ride, just read the label.
08-24-15, 05:13 PM
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Oh by the way, I enjoy the mountain bike cause when I get hurt it is by my own mistake, not someone not paying attention driving their vehicle.
08-24-15, 05:27 PM
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The reality is... alcohol is very addictive and destructive. Other drugs are likely just as bad. Whether using the park systems with children around... or highways with car around. Drinking/drugging and driving/cycling is wrong. Everyone knows that. Unfortunately some with addictive issues have to rationalize unsafe public usage as they have no choice.
If you need to pause your cycling to have a drink or drug so as to enhance your enjoyment.... you have a problem.
If you need to pause your cycling to have a drink or drug so as to enhance your enjoyment.... you have a problem.
Very addictive? How do you square your assertion with the observation that many adults on this planet enjoy a drink or two, even daily in many cultures, without becoming an alcoholic?
08-24-15, 05:40 PM
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Personally, I typically reserve beer for after the ride. However, once way back when, me and the guys took the 8 mile scenic ride from the city of Aspen, CO to the Woody Creek Tavern. I had a few...it was a great time, except the ride back wasnt too pleasant. However, a lot of cyclists go to that place and drink a few mid ride.
Once during a marathon, the local hash house harriers were handing out cups of beer around mile 23. I thought "what the hell" and had one since nobody was taking any. Turns out keeping down beer while running is something you have to train for.
Once during a marathon, the local hash house harriers were handing out cups of beer around mile 23. I thought "what the hell" and had one since nobody was taking any. Turns out keeping down beer while running is something you have to train for.
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Alcohol is actually somewhat useful in society as a social lubricant. That's why it's been around for so long. For example, on my recent tour to Japan, it was the 3 cups of Suntory poured into me by my Japanese campground host (lots of arm waving to come use their BBQ) that finally broke the language barrier. I dunno, we seemed to be communicating pretty well by the end of the night, even though I could no longer operate Google Translate on my phone due to the moving keypad. Mind you there was a lot of snoring coming from his tent later on.
08-24-15, 06:49 PM
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No by the way I am not. But thanks for asking.... and steering the conversation in the direction... back where it really started.
I bet you have! In your meetings perhaps? Which one of these posts gave you the impression I thought "virtually everybody who ever indulges in an adult beverage is on the road to being an alcoholic"?
I think you just misread my post (copied below). Sorry if my comments hit too close to home for some (not you of course).
.... alcohol is very addictive and destructive. Other drugs are likely just as bad. Whether using the park systems with children around... or highways with car around. Drinking/drugging and driving/cycling is wrong. Everyone knows that. Unfortunately some with addictive issues have to rationalize unsafe public usage as they have no choice.
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As the night wore on my Spanish and their English kept getting better and better.
(Still reserve the beer for a recovery drink though,
"it's got lectrolytes!")
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