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Old 02-19-24 | 03:42 AM
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I don't get cramps, but I do tend to eat good quantities of pickled jalapeno's in the half gallon jars. Yum yum yum . What does this have in common with pickles ? What every pickled food does, vinegar. I'd try a swig of cider vinegar before I'd buy any pickles as I really like don't them at all. I'm pretty sure it's the vinegar people are responding to, not whatever food that the vinegar is mixed with.
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I cut up cukes and put them in the jar of juice after all the original pickles are consumed. The kids like them because they are not as strong as the original pickles.
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Old 02-19-24 | 10:25 AM
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How is it that you have juice left over after consuming the pickles? I often have pickles left over with no juice. I buy pickles by the big jar. I also can my own. I have yet to find a home made brine that tastes as god as Vlasic. [MENTION=571150]cweb99[/MENTION] if you have a recipe that is better than vlasic, please share. good luck with your start-up business.
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Oh yeah, I'm all about that pickle power! I swear by pickles and pickle juice for my rides. They're like my secret weapon against cramps and dehydration. Electrolytes, you know?

But hey, if someone came up with pickles specially made for us cyclists, I'm totally in! Like, good packaging that's easy to carry, maybe a one-time container, and using simple organic ingredients? That sounds like a dream. None of that 7-11 pickle bag nonsense, I want top-notch quality, homegrown goodness.
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Originally Posted by Garthr
I don't get cramps, but I do tend to eat good quantities of pickled jalapeno's in the half gallon jars. Yum yum yum . What does this have in common with pickles ? What every pickled food does, vinegar. I'd try a swig of cider vinegar before I'd buy any pickles as I really like don't them at all. I'm pretty sure it's the vinegar people are responding to, not whatever food that the vinegar is mixed with.
Nope. Not vinegar. It’s the salt that helps. Exercise causes sweating that leads to salt loss. Salt loss leads to cramps. Pickling liquids contain a lot of salt. Natural fermentation…not quick pickling where vinegar is added…starts with vegetable matter and salt. The organic acids released come later as part of the vegetable matter breakdown. Sauerkraut, for example is made by adding a bunch of salt to cabbage that has been bruised.
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Nope. Not vinegar.
Indeed. Some kosher dills don't contain any vinegar.

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Indeed. Some kosher dills don't contain any vinegar.

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Preservative free... contains salt.... if only there was truth in labeling laws. Salt is a preservative, in fact it might be said to be the preservative.
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Preservative free... contains salt.... if only there was truth in labeling laws. Salt is a preservative, in fact it might be said to be the preservative.
So is calcium chloride which is added to keep the vegetables crisp. I also find the statement “…contain no vinegar…” to be a bit hilarious as well. What do they think that sour taste comes from?

They are pretty good pickles but they are just wrong about their claims.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
I also find the statement “…contain no vinegar…” to be a bit hilarious as well. What do they think that sour taste comes from?
Um, from the fermentation?

Why would they need to lie about not using vinegar?
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Hmm, never tried. Interesting.

Soccer players use little mustard packets. Didn't believe this until seeing it (2nd half, hot day). It's a thing. And since cramps are the devil's work, even weird things are worth a go.
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Old 02-19-24 | 08:37 PM
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Anyone else remember the Eagles-Cowboys pickle juice bowl? Look it up. One of the hottest NFL games ever played. Eagles players drank pickle juice before the game. Cowboys did not, and several of them did not last the entire game.
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pickle juice might work - but when in NYC I recommend a giant breakfast at Maison Pickle
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Um, from the fermentation?

Why would they need to lie about not using vinegar?
Far as I know it would be lactic fermentation producing lactic acid. Vinegar is acetic acid.
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back in the day Tom Keiser would mix Chia Pet seeds with water to stay hydrated and eliminate cramps
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I saw a comment to use fast food burger joint relish packets!
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It's not the electrolytes:
From an older thread on hydration recommendations, I posted:

Most leg cramps I've seen in cyclists seem to be related to harder than usual rides. Bigger steeper climbs and more miles than usual. Not an electrolyte or dehydration cause.

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Some of the local hot summer event rides have small cups of pickle juice at the rest stops.
Now, newer studies show that just a sip of pickle juice triggers a nerve reflex in the throat to short circuit some cramps. Ha, that's interesting. (The studies weren't with cyclists, though.)

For example, from the Washington Post:
How to get rid of leg cramps? Try pickle juice.
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I can buy the electrolyte and fluid replacement thing. The pickle receptor....not so much.

However....I recently watched a Chris Horner Youtube where he says he rode on Coke and candy bars. And he won the Vuelta. I am going to give up the specialized nutrition and hydration products and go back to convenient store donuts. I might not win the Vuelta, but at least I'll bonk with a smile on my face and cream filling on my chin.
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Um, from the fermentation?

Why would they need to lie about not using vinegar?
Lactic and acetic acid are products of fermentation. Lactic is there in about twice the quantity of acetic but acetic acid is present. Bubbies is probably saying that there is no added acetic acid which is true but acetic acid is present.
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Mmm. Pickle juice!

I put pickled jalapeno and beet juice into my Spicy Hot V-8 tomato juice that I have every morning. It makes it spicier and a little sweeter. I often also consume some pickled beets post exercise, as beets are supposed to help with nitrate levels and I figure that pickled ones do double duty.
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Mmm. Pickle juice!

I put pickled jalapeno and beet juice into my Spicy Hot V-8 tomato juice that I have every morning. It makes it spicier and a little sweeter. I often also consume some pickled beets post exercise, as beets are supposed to help with nitrate levels and I figure that pickled ones do double duty.
For real?

For my post ride hydration and recovery drink, I use a locally sourced proprietary mixture of malted barley and 3 varieties of hops. Yea, it was only a matter of time until this discussion went that direction.
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Yup, for realz. The barley, hops, water mixture that I used in my younger days isn't as effective for me anymore, unfortunately. Though there is something magical about that first swig after a long day, the consequences the next day keep me from over doing it.
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