This is what AI is telling me
07-27-25 | 06:24 PM
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loud hubs are not necessarily better. I’m going with the Pace. Including the extra 5% discount it’ll be almost $300 savings.
07-27-25 | 06:38 PM
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Clark W. Griswold
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From: ,location, location
Bikes: Foundry Chilkoot Ti W/Ultegra Di2, Salsa Timberjack Ti, Cinelli Mash Work RandoCross Fun Time Machine, 1x9 XT Parts Hybrid, Co-Motion Cascadia, Specialized Langster, Phil Wood Apple VeloXS Frame (w/DA 7400), R+M Supercharger2 Rohloff, Habanero Ti 26
They have better engagement so yes they are necessarily better. I like to be able to step on my pedals and go not have to rotate my cranks a bit before I go so the engagement is quite nice. Yes I understand the noise complaint but I know they are better for actual performance.
07-27-25 | 07:15 PM
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I knew a guy who ran a LBS a few years ago, who had a customer that asked him if he would work on his new bike if he bought it online. The LBS owner punched him in the face, knocking him down. I'm guessing the LBS owner didn't like the question.
You can choose to support your LBS or not, but if you don't, it may not be there when you need it. You can quote AI all you want, but economics are still going to be economics.
You can choose to support your LBS or not, but if you don't, it may not be there when you need it. You can quote AI all you want, but economics are still going to be economics.
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You could fall off a cliff and die.
You could get lost and die.
You could hit a tree and die.
OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.
07-27-25 | 07:47 PM
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07-27-25 | 09:04 PM
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All of BF posts have been consumed by the AI's
07-28-25 | 04:13 AM
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AI uses ****** and forums like bf as well as bicycle media and blogs etc. AI synthesizes the data from all these sources to form a conclusion.
07-28-25 | 06:54 AM
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I remember when AI stood for something,
07-28-25 | 07:13 AM
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07-28-25 | 09:23 AM
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07-28-25 | 10:23 AM
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And then you come back to the source, bringing the synthesized ******** with you. Awesome.
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A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera
A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera
07-28-25 | 10:39 AM
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07-28-25 | 10:46 AM
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No, he'd come back here disputing the details of the cliff itself.
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A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera
A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera
07-28-25 | 10:57 AM
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Try ICAN cycling.
https://icancycling.com/collections/gravel-bike-wheels
I have the G24s. About 1/2 the price of Light Bicycle and they have been outstanding. 1400 miles and counting on them so far.
That's with the ICAN branded hub. About $300 more with DT Swiss Hub but still less than LB.
https://icancycling.com/collections/gravel-bike-wheels
I have the G24s. About 1/2 the price of Light Bicycle and they have been outstanding. 1400 miles and counting on them so far.
That's with the ICAN branded hub. About $300 more with DT Swiss Hub but still less than LB.
07-28-25 | 11:15 AM
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Try ICAN cycling.
https://icancycling.com/collections/gravel-bike-wheels
I have the G24s. About 1/2 the price of Light Bicycle and they have been outstanding. 1400 miles and counting on them so far.
That's with the ICAN branded hub. About $300 more with DT Swiss Hub but still less than LB.
https://icancycling.com/collections/gravel-bike-wheels
I have the G24s. About 1/2 the price of Light Bicycle and they have been outstanding. 1400 miles and counting on them so far.
That's with the ICAN branded hub. About $300 more with DT Swiss Hub but still less than LB.
07-28-25 | 11:22 AM
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The preponderance of evidence is that the LB will be a good choice. BF posts on the wheels are, no doubt, used in AI’s assessment process. AI uses relevant historical data as well.
No it’s not perfect. AI is a powerful tool. You are a fool if you don’t use this tool.
There are courses on how best to interact with AI. I sense many here would benefit from this education.
No it’s not perfect. AI is a powerful tool. You are a fool if you don’t use this tool.
There are courses on how best to interact with AI. I sense many here would benefit from this education.
Last edited by MikeDeason; 07-28-25 at 11:27 AM.
07-28-25 | 11:39 AM
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07-28-25 | 11:48 AM
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07-28-25 | 12:12 PM
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The preponderance of evidence is that the LB will be a good choice. BF posts on the wheels are, no doubt, used in AI’s assessment process. AI uses relevant historical data as well.
No it’s not perfect. AI is a powerful tool. You are a fool if you don’t use this tool.
There are courses on how best to interact with AI. I sense many here would benefit from this education.
No it’s not perfect. AI is a powerful tool. You are a fool if you don’t use this tool.
There are courses on how best to interact with AI. I sense many here would benefit from this education.
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"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."
"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
07-28-25 | 01:00 PM
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07-28-25 | 01:16 PM
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This thread has lasted way past it's expiration date. Bye.
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