Momo is/was it
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Momo is/was it
I use my IGH in rain and snow/slush but it feels like a boat anchor after the cf bikes. The weight is demotivating.
AI says only the Monarch folding is cf with IGF. Don’t want folding
Found the Momo but seems to be out of production
https://www.wired.com/2007/09/momo-stylish-ca/
AI says only the Monarch folding is cf with IGF. Don’t want folding
Found the Momo but seems to be out of production
https://www.wired.com/2007/09/momo-stylish-ca/
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Thank you for the update. I will continue to do nothing with this new information.
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OK, good to know that AI did not suggest you buy a bike which is no longer produced.
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Not sure why IGH makes any difference compared to a external geared hub. It's probably going to be the bike itself that is a slug. Though perhaps you don't have the gearing you need with the IGH bike. However that could be solve with a IGH that has the gearing you need.
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Even just a new fork is going to be more than the bike is worth. And a new fork won't pep up anything.
Carbon wheels will just give you better feel for the road. And that missing input could be what you interpret as having pep. But your actual increase in performance certainly won't be worth the ridiculous investment you just made in the bike.
The bike is a slug. Face it.
But also realize that riding in rain will make most any bike feel less peppy. The water on the road increases the rolling resistance. Or so I'd think. Not sure why you favor that bike for rain, snow/slushy conditions over any other bike. CF doesn't care what you ride in.
Carbon wheels will just give you better feel for the road. And that missing input could be what you interpret as having pep. But your actual increase in performance certainly won't be worth the ridiculous investment you just made in the bike.
The bike is a slug. Face it.
But also realize that riding in rain will make most any bike feel less peppy. The water on the road increases the rolling resistance. Or so I'd think. Not sure why you favor that bike for rain, snow/slushy conditions over any other bike. CF doesn't care what you ride in.
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I use my IGH in rain and snow/slush but it feels like a boat anchor after the cf bikes. The weight is demotivating.
AI says only the Monarch folding is cf with IGF. Don’t want folding
Found the Momo but seems to be out of production
https://www.wired.com/2007/09/momo-stylish-ca/
AI says only the Monarch folding is cf with IGF. Don’t want folding
Found the Momo but seems to be out of production
https://www.wired.com/2007/09/momo-stylish-ca/
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...what about just buying tires that aren't total pigs when it comes to rolling resistance? Crazy idea, I know.
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Urban traffic noise is just a nuisance to me. Unlike when I'm in my car which insulates me from it, I have to endure it sometimes when on my bike. But only till I get to the peaceful sections where I can haul ass, safely.
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Between my wife, children and my bicycle, I'd hate to be in the position of determining which will have to stay outside in the winter.
So far, I've not had to make that choice.
So far, I've not had to make that choice.
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Winter riding around here often requires studded tires or knobby tires, both of which are going to have higher rolling resistance than add ice and snow to the mix. It becomes even more work to keep moving. Rolling resistance isn't a priority when there is ice and snow on the roads and trails. The priority is traction and safety.

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And I thought that he was going to putter around the countryside to Montreal until he set eyes on his daughter’s “nubile” boyfriend, or some other excuse like that. So many stories I can’t keep them straight. Like the other one about moving to OK or wherever.
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Even just a new fork is going to be more than the bike is worth. And a new fork won't pep up anything.
Carbon wheels will just give you better feel for the road. And that missing input could be what you interpret as having pep. But your actual increase in performance certainly won't be worth the ridiculous investment you just made in the bike.
The bike is a slug. Face it.
But also realize that riding in rain will make most any bike feel less peppy. The water on the road increases the rolling resistance. Or so I'd think. Not sure why you favor that bike for rain, snow/slushy conditions over any other bike. CF doesn't care what you ride in.
Carbon wheels will just give you better feel for the road. And that missing input could be what you interpret as having pep. But your actual increase in performance certainly won't be worth the ridiculous investment you just made in the bike.
The bike is a slug. Face it.
But also realize that riding in rain will make most any bike feel less peppy. The water on the road increases the rolling resistance. Or so I'd think. Not sure why you favor that bike for rain, snow/slushy conditions over any other bike. CF doesn't care what you ride in.








I’ll try to remember to dumb it down in the future.