Umm, what?

Plenty of spare parts are available, along with online tutorials. Plenty of bike shops do it, too, though there may be shipping involved. Vecchio's in Boulder, CO, is widely considered to be one of the most knowledgeable shops in the country when it comes to Campy, and they rebuild the shifters and provide advice to others who rebuild them.

buy Pontiac stock... i hear they went out of business.

In Italy, it's very common for workers to take a two hour lunch, and drink wine during the entire two hours... buy away.

here's some italian goods you might like, too!..
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it's both ugly and tacky, genetically melded into an upscale waste of cash.
many more models available at the swipe of your plastic.

FIAT... "Fix It AGAIN, Tony!

most Ferrari owners report that their cars are in the shop twice as much as they are driven, and the repairs/upkeep cost more than the car.

This is a super articulate and erudite critique of Campagnolo components. You win the thread.

More non-normative definitions? It's so wild that you can say that a company with revenues of somewhere between $80 and $110 million dollars has no one who desires the product.

I'd love to know how I can sell $100 million dollars of stuff no one wants!

What the heck does Pontiac have to do with Campagnolo?

And, FYI, you never could buy Pontiac stock, so your statement really makes no sense.

To be fair, you could say the same about any single statement out of that post.

Pogacar could win riding a bike with Power components.

let's take a peek at Campy's latest MTB offerings...

here's a link...

I couldn't get past the first sentence ...

Campagnolo sells their MTB groups on both Colnago's and Look's MTB pages.

So a company has to do MTB in order to be a company? That is just silly. It is almost like a Gordian type thing "well Campy doesn't do IGHs so they suck because of defailurs"

The campy hater sure do get crazy.

So what they don't make an MTB group anymore. That is not their lane and never really has been, they did Euclid, Icarus and Record O.R. but it wasn't their thing so they stopped. Nothing wrong with staying in your lane. Some companies veer out into everything and then don't always make good products. Plus if Campy did mountain bike stuff you all would still be whining about how terrible Campy is and why are they making MTB stuff and my uncles grandfathers neighbors brothers shoe shine stand attendant once had a problem with his Campy and they are terrible.

Haha! Now it’s equipment doesn’t even matter, eh? Christ, these kids…

:lol:

He’s trolling again.

I happened to be reading the Fall 2000 issue of the Rivendell Reader a few days ago in which Grant Petersen interviewed his friend Maynard Hershon. I knew the name from the columns he wrote in Velonews and Winning magazine in the '80's and '90's.

Grant, knowing that Hershon had also written ad copy for a few companies in the bike industry, asked him whether he thought he might be recruited to do some work for Campagnolo at some point.

Hershon said, in effect, not a chance; that while Campagnolo maintained a nominal presence in North America, they were all but 100% focused on their European market.

For a company that had already written off the American market over 25 years ago and has clearly concentrated on their small wedge of the super-expensive end of the European market for nearly as long, 80 to 100 million dollars/Euros means that they likely know what they're doing.

The previous analogies to staggeringly expensive Italian luxury sports cars versus Japanese equivalents are accurate. Ferrari owners who report that they pay more to maintain their cars than the cars originally cost aren't actually complaining; they're boasting.

And European millionaires who grew up loving bike racing and imprinted on Campagnolo will have no qualms about buying from Campagnolo, whatever we think of its arguable shortcomings.

I'm from New Haven, not Treviso, but I too imprinted on Campagnolo, in the mid-'60's, at age 15, when I started racing. Compared to what else there was on the market back then, Campagnolo seemed almost unimaginably superior. Futuristic, even.

Literally, in fact. All the '80's high-end Suntour and Shimano components that people extol on the C&V sub-forum were the result of their engineers' studying and emulating Campagnolo's decades-long policy of manufacturing at the highest levels of achievable quality. (It wasn't an accident that many of the small parts in Suntour's Superbe components were identical to and interchangeable with the Campagnolo equivalents.) (Campagnolo remains the only bike parts manufacturer that machined components for satellites, though, as far as I know.)

So once I could afford them, I raced on a succession of Record and Super Record bikes in the '70's and '80's. Now I ride Shimano-equipped bikes, but my cost-no-object choice would be a current Italian racing bike equipped with Campagnolo's best. Shimano may make components that are arguably superior, but they'll never be Campagnolo.

Rolex doesn’t sell to a niche market. They sell more than 30% of Swiss watches by dollar value.

Richard Mille sells to a niche market

Richard Mille markets but it’s not by buying ads

No idea where you got that number for sure it was not Campagnolo. How is it with all those sales the product is unseen out in the real world. I guess we’ll leave it there. However, it is safe to say very few people see the value in Campanolo components and their ever diminishing market share supports that fact. It’s not that the product is no good. It’s just the product is not great which for the prices they’re charging it needs to be.

$10B per year in sales isn’t a niche?

Ftfy

Sorry your bubble doesn't allow you to see Campagnolo, I do see it quite frequently then again I do have a co-worker who has Campy on all of his bikes and see a good deal of roadies in my area so the chances are higher and I guess soon I will be riding it (Ekar) and have had friends and co-workers who have ridden it for many years. In fact before I really knew about bikes I had a good friend who had Campy and rode that bike everywhere a lot for decades and every shop I have worked at had at least one person with Campy. We just had a Campy bike in for service, lovely Calfee carbon frame. It is out there sure not as big numbers as Shimano but that is not there market.

With handbuilt stuff like this they aren't trying to hit a mass market sell to everyone and everything and that is fine by me!

No, but selling INCREASINGLY less than Shimano has.

(increasingly less? Sounds like an oxymoron)

Wonderful find. Thanks!

Ignoring the post-COVID, industry-wide downturn, Campy has been profitable and their sales have been growing. By almost all standards, that's a successful company.

Comparing a specialty manufacturer like Campagnolo to Shimano, who have dominated the bicycle component business for the last 30 years or so at all price points and throughout the world to an all but comical degree, always seems a little unfair. Only Campagnolo's management team knows whether they're meeting their goals.

(Mr. Micawber: "Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen pounds nineteen and six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery.")

"But apart from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

Well, if their goals included almost no bike manufacturers selling bikes with Campy kit, and no one pro tour team using their stuff....

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