Wheelset Upgrade
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Wheelset Upgrade
I'm having some difficulty in finding a pair of wheelset compatible with the Sirrus Expert 2016.
After looking for awhile I decided to get the Fulcrum Racing 5 DB but I was told it's not compatible due to the spacing in the axle of the frame, or something like that.
So, other than the Axis 4.0, is there any other set of wheels compatible with this bike? My budget is preferably under £500.
Thanks
After looking for awhile I decided to get the Fulcrum Racing 5 DB but I was told it's not compatible due to the spacing in the axle of the frame, or something like that.
So, other than the Axis 4.0, is there any other set of wheels compatible with this bike? My budget is preferably under £500.
Thanks
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If you can't find any definite info on the wheel set you have now , you may need to measure.
Here's a pretty good article on what is what.
Axle standards explained- Mtbr.com
There's a good chance you have mountainbike standard stuff eg 100mm front 135mm rear spacing and QR standard axles.
Measure anyway to know what you have , so you know what to look for.
Are you looking for more durability or lighter than stock?
This should get you started anyway.
Mick
Here's a pretty good article on what is what.
Axle standards explained- Mtbr.com
There's a good chance you have mountainbike standard stuff eg 100mm front 135mm rear spacing and QR standard axles.
Measure anyway to know what you have , so you know what to look for.
Are you looking for more durability or lighter than stock?
This should get you started anyway.
Mick
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Can't find it online? ask at a Bike shop.
what do the other wheels need to satisfy the stock ones dont?
How about buying Expensive Tires for the wheels you Have?
what do the other wheels need to satisfy the stock ones dont?
How about buying Expensive Tires for the wheels you Have?
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If you can't find any definite info on the wheel set you have now , you may need to measure.
Here's a pretty good article on what is what.
Axle standards explained- Mtbr.com
There's a good chance you have mountainbike standard stuff eg 100mm front 135mm rear spacing and QR standard axles.
Measure anyway to know what you have , so you know what to look for.
Are you looking for more durability or lighter than stock?
This should get you started anyway.
Mick
Here's a pretty good article on what is what.
Axle standards explained- Mtbr.com
There's a good chance you have mountainbike standard stuff eg 100mm front 135mm rear spacing and QR standard axles.
Measure anyway to know what you have , so you know what to look for.
Are you looking for more durability or lighter than stock?
This should get you started anyway.
Mick
I also spoke to another LBS on the phone and the guy said the Fulcrum's might fit by adding spaces or something like that. But now I'm wondering if I should put a set of road wheels on a Hybrid like the Sirrus.

I think I might have found a decent, compatible set - Ksyrium Elite All-Road. A bit pricey, but I hope they're worth it.
I'm also going to send a message to DT Swiss to see if they have any recommendation for this specific bike.
should choosing a set of wheel be this complex or is it just me?
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I have the same bike OP and it looks like you've narrowed it down correctly. You need a 700c x 135mm mountain bike rear wheel that takes an 11 speed cassette (specifically Shimano 105 "road" components). You can't use a wider wheel and you don't want to use spacers.
The stock Axis 2.0 wheels are a little bit heavy but they're not particularly slow or uncomfortable. In those regards you'll get much more reward from changing your tyres and/or pressures. And tyres are a lot less expensive than wheels.
The stock Axis 2.0 wheels are a little bit heavy but they're not particularly slow or uncomfortable. In those regards you'll get much more reward from changing your tyres and/or pressures. And tyres are a lot less expensive than wheels.
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Go light. Go Carbon.
Light Bicycle right in your budget. https://www.lightbicycle.com/carbon-...ad-bike-wheels
Light Bicycle right in your budget. https://www.lightbicycle.com/carbon-...ad-bike-wheels
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I have the same bike OP and it looks like you've narrowed it down correctly. You need a 700c x 135mm mountain bike rear wheel that takes an 11 speed cassette (specifically Shimano 105 "road" components). You can't use a wider wheel and you don't want to use spacers.
The stock Axis 2.0 wheels are a little bit heavy but they're not particularly slow or uncomfortable. In those regards you'll get much more reward from changing your tyres and/or pressures. And tyres are a lot less expensive than wheels.
The stock Axis 2.0 wheels are a little bit heavy but they're not particularly slow or uncomfortable. In those regards you'll get much more reward from changing your tyres and/or pressures. And tyres are a lot less expensive than wheels.
I really didn't want to spend that much on a set of wheels, but I figured if I'm going to upgrade I might as well get something better than spending less and get something that is more or less the same.
Whether is actually going to be worth it... we'll see.
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I'm afraid you're simply not going to get what you want simply by changing wheels. Find the correct tyres and pressures for you to be comfortable and confident with the handling and then consider changing the wheelset for incremental improvements in performance.
Save yourself 100's in the process.
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Okay, so let me make it clear that I know very, very little about bikes. But I understand a bit about physics and I really think that if you're "mostly interested in performance, comfort and a general feeling of improvement over the Axis 2.0." then you should not replace your wheels unless you've already tried many tyre and pressure combos.
I'm afraid you're simply not going to get what you want simply by changing wheels. Find the correct tyres and pressures for you to be comfortable and confident with the handling and then consider changing the wheelset for incremental improvements in performance.
Save yourself 100's in the process.
I'm afraid you're simply not going to get what you want simply by changing wheels. Find the correct tyres and pressures for you to be comfortable and confident with the handling and then consider changing the wheelset for incremental improvements in performance.
Save yourself 100's in the process.
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Go light. Go Carbon.
Light Bicycle right in your budget. https://www.lightbicycle.com/carbon-...ad-bike-wheels
Light Bicycle right in your budget. https://www.lightbicycle.com/carbon-...ad-bike-wheels
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from all the reviews I've been reading in the last few days about various wheel sets, most of the people seem to suggest the better set is a noticeable difference.
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Is it for most people who have never tried better wheels or is it for people who have tried better wheels?
from all the reviews I've been reading in the last few days about various wheel sets, most of the people seem to suggest the better set is a noticeable difference.
from all the reviews I've been reading in the last few days about various wheel sets, most of the people seem to suggest the better set is a noticeable difference.
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Is it for most people who have never tried better wheels or is it for people who have tried better wheels?
from all the reviews I've been reading in the last few days about various wheel sets, most of the people seem to suggest the better set is a noticeable difference.
from all the reviews I've been reading in the last few days about various wheel sets, most of the people seem to suggest the better set is a noticeable difference.
The new wheels were 1550 grams, 450 grams or 1 pound lighter. The difference was subtle, with the most noticeable change showing as faster steering response on sharp handlebar movements. I suppose the acceleration was a little quicker, but not obvious. The new wheels "seemed" faster, but of course, I never did a double blind test.
So: the wheels were nice, but not a huge change.
Tires!
What tires do you have now, and what size?
What do you weigh, and how much air pressure are you using?
The more expensive road tires have thin, flexible sidewalls, and grippy rubber compounds. When the tires are at the appropriate pressure for the rider's weight, they flex over rough road surfaces instead of vibrating or bouncing the bike and rider. And the handling on turns is much better, both from grippy rubber and less bouncing on rough spots. Really, the difference is huge--this is by far the most effective upgrade.
So far, on the thread comments:
3 votes for good tires.
1 vote for no-name carbon rim wheels. On a hybrid. (Those wheels don't look bad for a racing bike. But they are 1/3 or 1/4 the price of name brand carbon wheels, so there's some risk of possible quality problems. )
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I weigh about 70 Kg, and I keep the pressure to almost the max of what it says on the tyre, which is [85-95 PSI].
I think part of the upgrade is because I feel this bike deserve better wheels, and part is I feel the upgrade will improve the ride.
Also, I like the fact that the wheels cost more than a lot of the bikes I see around...
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Marginal gains. The concept employed by the SKY racing team. It worked for them. If all your upgrades add up to a better, more valued experience then it is worth it.
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The tires are the stock Espoir Sport (30x700)
I weigh about 70 Kg, and I keep the pressure to almost the max of what it says on the tyre, which is [85-95 PSI].
I think part of the upgrade is because I feel this bike deserve better wheels, and part is I feel the upgrade will improve the ride.
I weigh about 70 Kg, and I keep the pressure to almost the max of what it says on the tyre, which is [85-95 PSI].
I think part of the upgrade is because I feel this bike deserve better wheels, and part is I feel the upgrade will improve the ride.
Your bike costs more than a lot of the bikes you'll see, screw the wheels!
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Thanks for that. I tried it the other day and it felt a smoother more comfortable ride. Today I pumped it back to 90s and it seemed slightly less comfortable. However, it also seemed to be rolling better. I did clean and re-lube the chain so that might be a factor, I don't know. I think 80 PSI might be the best compromise.
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